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Post by goku1719 Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:56 pm

in the game the players are able to steal kuwal and uu, bt we cnt steal attack turns. I just wanted to suggest that a new feature is added where we can spend 50 supply turns to steal 25% of the targets attack turns. I hope this feature is added to the game.

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Post by Nomad Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:00 pm

would be nice against all those 6K AT carrying inactive accounts.
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Post by kingkongfan1 Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:01 pm

interesting suggestion... hmmm...
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Post by Admin Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:07 pm

i'm surprised you're up for it nomad
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Post by Kingofshinobis1 Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:20 pm

Admin wrote:i'm surprised you're up for it nomad

Everyone loves free AT Very Happy

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Post by goku1719 Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:30 pm

cn this feature plz b added, every 1 lvs free at. And it wud realy help newbs.

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Post by Admin Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:02 pm

look just because everyone would like free resources, that's not how suggestions work.

might as well add a button that each time you click it you get 1k AT's, just because many people would love it doesn't mean it's a good update.
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Post by Nomad Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:41 pm

Admin wrote:i'm surprised you're up for it nomad

I am not, just stating it would be nice against all the inactives.

The other side is horrific. Imagine those who stockpile AT, or those who suffer the "fisrt strike" in a war when not only have their stats been removed but also their AT. It is not a good move game mechanics wise, but TBH Admin, something needs to be done about AT. Either increase the turn production, or find some way to drop the price as small and midgrade accounts just can not make enough profit to justify buying AT, and its becoming a ever present issue (Lack of AT or better yet a viable place to get AT) I mean its like 33/34 bill just to use all your MT per week to buy AT and its only what 2400 AT? an average size account isnt far over that on income, so to buy AT you have to not improve your account at all, couple that with few farming targets, and few raiding targets and well,,,, it kinna just makes it so there is no "extra" AT to halp keep the price down, AT are just to hard to come by.
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Post by Kenzu Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:11 pm

Nomad wrote:
Admin wrote:i'm surprised you're up for it nomad

I am not, just stating it would be nice against all the inactives.

The other side is horrific. Imagine those who stockpile AT, or those who suffer the "fisrt strike" in a war when not only have their stats been removed but also their AT. It is not a good move game mechanics wise, but TBH Admin, something needs to be done about AT. Either increase the turn production, or find some way to drop the price as small and midgrade accounts just can not make enough profit to justify buying AT, and its becoming a ever present issue (Lack of AT or better yet a viable place to get AT) I mean its like 33/34 bill just to use all your MT per week to buy AT and its only what 2400 AT? an average size account isnt far over that on income, so to buy AT you have to not improve your account at all, couple that with few farming targets, and few raiding targets and well,,,, it kinna just makes it so there is no "extra" AT to halp keep the price down, AT are just to hard to come by.

You mention a nice side effect this update would have in wars. And by nice I mean disastrous.
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Post by goku1719 Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:33 pm

wat if its availible only fr peeps that make les dan 20 mil a turn so cnt buy at or are ranked 150+, dat way it wil help newbs bt wnt b availible fr ppl hu dnt need it.

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Post by Nomad Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:56 pm

goku1719 wrote:wat if its availible only fr peeps that make les dan 20 mil a turn so cnt buy at or are ranked 150+, dat way it wil help newbs bt wnt b availible fr ppl hu dnt need it.

because rank and income are exploitable. Both the rank 1 and top incomes can alter their accounts to get the bonus, therefore it is a bad idea. Secondly you didnt recognize the true issue with it. A small rank 151 player can hit a larger, higher ranked player and steal all their AT so they can not counterstrike and thats not acceptable.

I agree there is an issue with a shortage of viable ways to obtain AT Goku, but this is not the answer. It is far to exploitable, and far to dangerous placing to much power in the wrong hands.
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Post by seaborgium Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:36 pm

I know some players who bought ATs with $$ and then sold them, but admin took that option when he dropped the BM rates.

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Post by Nomad Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:52 pm

seaborgium wrote:I know some players who bought ATs with $$ and then sold them, but admin took that option when he dropped the BM rates.

You use to could buy AT on GM for 7/8 bill to, but admin jacked the prices up there as well. To buy 1 K there now is 20 to 25 bill, so your better off waiting a week to spend 34 bill to get 2400AT
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Post by seaborgium Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:02 am

Nomad, at one point I used to be the only person who had ATs on the market. Back then I had kept the price down to 17m.
However I have run out of that stock, and I haven't found a reason to restock it since 300 Ats for 1$ isn't worth it.

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Post by Admin Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:55 am

the idea of AT producing planets comes to mind
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Post by seaborgium Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:57 am

*wonders off to find a facepalm picture*
I am not sure we want to go down the road of planets, since the AF still isn't coded yet.

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Post by Nomad Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:50 am

most definitely need to get all the old promised updates out first before going down this path of planets.


Now once thats done we can talk about it, but I sure hope its a new system and not the tangled mess of SGW.
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Post by Jiro Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:23 pm

What about if all the AT that are not produced because the account already has 6000 AT flow into the public market (where you can buy for Market Turns?) The more inactive accounts, the more AT's are available.
This would benefit newbie and settled accounts alike, supporter status or not.

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Post by Nomad Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:21 pm

Jiro wrote:What about if all the AT that are not produced because the account already has 6000 AT flow into the public market (where you can buy for Market Turns?) The more inactive accounts, the more AT's are available.
This would benefit newbie and settled accounts alike, supporter status or not.

I have suggested the same before, might need to capp it as there are far more inactives then actives so the supply may become to much, but worth thinking about.
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Post by goku1719 Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:17 pm

hmm wat abt somethin lk da uu thing where u cn increase amnt of at produced per day by usin kuwal?

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Post by Kenzu Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:48 pm

Jiro wrote:What about if all the AT that are not produced because the account already has 6000 AT flow into the public market (where you can buy for Market Turns?) The more inactive accounts, the more AT's are available.
This would benefit newbie and settled accounts alike, supporter status or not.

you will always steal the same amount of resources, no matter how much AT are being produced.

Imagine, if there are say 100 billion kuwal produced each day by inactives, then it doesnt matter if everyone has 1000 or 100.000 attack turns, because you can't steal more than what is being produced.

Example: Everyone produces 50 AT per turn, people will farm 200 million per hit,
If everyone produces 2 times more AT, then obviously people will farm 2 times more and within few days everyone will be farming for 100 million per hit, and AT price will fall.

What does it lead to? Same amount of kuwal stolen, but 2 times more time wasted on farming.

It's like thinking that by having more buckets you can get more milk from a cow.
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Post by seaborgium Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:54 pm

Your are jsut looking at farming kenzu, as it stands right now, ATs are low and the ONLY thing people are doing is farming and raiding. I would like to go war but we can't as not enough ATs.

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Post by goku1719 Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:45 pm

did i jus get ignored!?

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Post by Special Agent 47 Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:59 pm

No Goku, your not being ignored.
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Post by seaborgium Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:09 am

I honestly did, as I couldn't read 90% of what you wrote. Slow down a bit and I am sure it will get easier for others to read.

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