World Republic vs. The Imperium

Vesper wrote:

WR cost to date (October 15th)
96,839,873,500 + 15,811,430,000 = 112,651,303,500

TIE cost to date (October 14th)
42,428,000,000 + 4,200,000,000 = 46,628,000,000

112,651,303,500 / 46,628,000,000 = 2.42

ian wrote:

The Imperium Empire estimated losses:

soul dog - 14,325 assassins - 2,077,125,000 kuwal
Mage prime - 14,000 assassins - 2,030,000,000 kuwal
Blackeagle - 16,000 attack supers. 11billion repair costs for strike - 15,000,000,000 kuwal cost.
Casshern - 7,000 assassins - 1,015,000,000 kuwal.
Myself: 8,535 assassins - 1,237,575,000 kuwal.
Spiderx : 6,146 assassins - 891,170,000 kuwal.

Total kuwal value lost: 22,250,870,000 kuwal.

Before we slaughtered Kismet, he had:

112,000 defence supers.
13,000 defence solders
59,000 assassins
59,000 spies
20,000 attack supers
5,000 attack soldiers

128,000 Defence IFV's.

Now he has:

29,320 defence supers
2,277 defence soldiers
23,547 assassins
41,348 spies
19,330 attack supers
4,665 attack soldiers

0 defence IFV's

Kismet's total Losses Broken down:

82,680 defence supers - 20,670,000,000 kuwal.
2,723 defence soldiers - 313,145,000 kuwal.
35,453 assassins - 5,140,685,000 kuwal.
17,652 spies - 2,559,540,000 kuwal.
670 attack supers - 167,500,000 kuwal.
335 attack soldiers - 38,525,000 kuwal.

128,000 Defence IFV's - 23,552,000,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Losses: 52,441,395,000 kuwal.s worth

retro22 wrote:KOOPA:
Raided 65,134 UU = 6,513,400,000

I forgot to inclue the 65k UU that was raided in profit for TIE. Technically raiding 65,134 UU damaged WR 6,513,400,000 and gave TIE 6,513,400,000 resources. Taking that into calculation i will subtract 6,513,400,000 for the cost to TIE to this point

52,441,395,000 + 112,651,303,500 = 165,092,698,500

22,250,870,000 + 46,628,000,000 - 6,513,400,000 = 62,365,470,000

165,092,698,500 / 62,365,470,000 = 2.65

Vesper wrote:

I forgot to inclue the 65k UU that was raided in profit for TIE. Technically raiding 65,134 UU damaged WR 6,513,400,000 and gave TIE 6,513,400,000 resources. Taking that into calculation i will subtract 6,513,400,000 for the cost to TIE to this point

52,441,395,000 + 112,651,303,500 = 165,092,698,500

22,250,870,000 + 46,628,000,000 - 6,513,400,000 = 62,365,470,000

165,092,698,500 / 62,365,470,000 = 2.65

Well, we need to look at this proportionately.

Currently The Company's combined turn income is 768,383,447 a turn - 36,882,405,456 a day.
Currently The Commonwealth's combined turn income is 581,693,660 a turn - 27,921,295,680 a day.

The Imperium combined turn income is therefore: 1,350,077,107 - 64,803,701,137 income a day.

Currently The Company's combined total Unit Production is 277,433 - at 100k rate thats 27,743,300,000 kuwal a day.
Currently The Commonwealth's combined total Unit Production is 246,979 - at 100k rate thats 24,697,900,000 kuwal a day.

The Imperium combined Total Unit production is therefore: 524,412 - at 100k rate thats 52,441,200,000 kuwal a day.

The Imperium total daily economy (Total U.P + daily income) is therefore 117,244,901,137 kuwal a day.

World Republic is currently under 275,000,000 combined turn income and 240,000 total Unit production a day. If however we assume these are the amounts (which they aren't - WR's are lower if my maths is correct), then that amounts to:

Currently World Republic's combined turn income is 275,000,000 a turn - 13,200,000,000 kuwal's worth a day.
Currently World Republic's combined total Unit Production is 240,000 - at a 100k rate thats 24,000,000,000 kuwal's worth a day.

World Republic total daily economy: 27,200,000,000 kuwal a day.

Consequently, you then compare world republic's economy to The Imperium's economy:

117,244,901,137 / 27,200,000,000 = 4.31 - The Imperium Economy is 4.31's larger than World Republic's economy and growth capability - World Republic makes up less than 23.20% of The Imperium's combined economy.

As such, proportionately we need to factor in the capacity to regenerate lost resources for both sides based on their economic strength. As such, the actual proportionate ratio is:

2.65 x 4.31 = 11.4215. In a nut shell therefore - World Republic is (in terms of the actual capacity to regenerate and replace losses) sustaining the equivilant of 11.42 more losses than The Imperium is That means, currently if trends continue - World Republic will take 11.42's time longer to recover/replace their losses in this war than The Imperium will take to replace its losses

What World Republic was thinking when they started this war is completely beyond me... oh well - its doing The Imperium's war experience the whole world of good, while at the same time giving World Republic a whole world of pain.... double benefits

LOL - it turns out some of the smaller Imperium members decided to have a smaller party at Kismet's expense.

Last i posted concerning him he had 29,320 defence supers. 2,277 defence soldiers, 19,330 attack supers and 4,665 attack soldiers.

He's now down to 10,415 defence supers, 286 defence soldiers, 7,970 attack supers and 773 attack soldiers:

Losses:

18,905 Defence supers - 4,726,250,000 kuwal's worth.
1,991 Defence soldiers - 228,965,000 kuwal's worth.
11,360 Attack supers - 2,840,000,000 kuwal's worth.
3,892 Attack soldiers - 447,580,000 kuwal's worth.

Total: 8,242,795,000 kuwal's worth of losses. Since his strike and defence are at 0, and the attackers are using tiny tiny tiny strikes... the repair costs will be tiny, and the only major expense will be A.T - so say 1,000,000,000 costs for The Imperium

Vesper - be sure to add these into your next tally of World Republic losses vs. Imperium

yup kenzu, I meant since war started
heres something to add as well :

7804 spies ( 780,400,000 + 351,180,000 = 1,131,580,000 kuwal worth ) lost while sabbing syndicate of APC worth 2,604,000,000 kuwal

can't say a very good ratio but still... increases the numbers

Well, its been another successfull night of operations for The Imperium Empire

Kenzu and Lord Pegasus have now joined October 17, Thulkthayer, Kismet and Koopa in being dealt a lethal blow by the might of The Imperium armed forces

Before massing - Lord Pegasus:

Attack Supers: 45,000
Attack Soldiers: 0
Defence Supers: 120,000
Defence Soldiers: 5,695
Assassins: 54,150
Spies: 50,000

120,000 Defence IFV's.

After Massing:

Attack Supers: 16,742
Attack soldiers: 0
Defence Supers: 9,011
Defence soldiers: 39
Assassins 32,734
Spies: 50,000

0 IFV's

Total Losses:

Attack Supers: 28,528 - 7,132,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Attack Soldiers: 0
Defence Supers: 110,989 - 27,747,250,000 kuwal's worth.
Defence Soldiers: 5,656 - 650,440,000 kuwal's worth.
Assassins: 21,416 - 3,105,320,000 kuwal's worth.
Spies: 0

120,000 IFV's: 22,080,000,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Lord Pegasus Lost: 60,715,010,000 kuwal's worth.

Before massing: Kenzu:

Attack Supers: 23,072
Attack Soldiers: 1,073
Defence Supers: 82,245
Defence Soldiers: 4,649
Assassins: 100,000
Spies: 100,000

86,675 Defence IFV's.

After Massing:

Attack Supers: 8,021
Attack Soldiers: 131
Defence Supers: 7,497
Defence Soldiers: 47
Assassins: 32,734
Spies: 68,599

0 IFV's.

Total Losses:

Attack Supers: 15,051 - 3,762,750,000 kuwal's worth.
Attack Soldiers: 942 - 108,330,000 kuwal's worth.
Defence Supers: 74,748 - 18,687,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Defence Soldiers: 4,602 - 529,230,000 kuwal's worth.
Assassins: 67,266 - 9,753,570,000 kuwal's worth.
Spies: 31,401 - 4,553,145,000 kuwal's worth.

86,675 IFV's - 15,948,200,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Kenzu Losses: 53,342,225,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Kenzu and Lord Pegasus Losses: 114,057,235,000 kuwal's worth.

Imperium Losses for BOTH attacks:

superkingtsob: 28,555 attack supers - 7,138,750,000 kuwal's worth
superkingtsob: 12,000,000,000 kuwal's worth for repairs.
Smog - 12,000 Attack supers - 3,000,000,000 kuwal's worth for repairs.
Smog: 3000 assassins - 435,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Smog: 8.7billion kuwal repair costs.
reaper: 14,000 assassins - 2,030,000,000 kuwal's worth.
souldog: 1.7billion kuwal
Blackeagle: 3,000 assassins - 435,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Blackeagle: 13,000 Attack Supers - 3,250,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Blackeagle: 8.5billion repair costs
Dursum: 8000 attack supers - 2,000,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Dursum: 7billion repair costs
Myself - 1.5billion kuwal repairs

Total Imperium Empire losses: 57,688,750,000 kuwal's worth.

We came, we saw, we conquered - Long Live The Imperium Empire!!!

Vesper wrote:52,441,395,000 + 112,651,303,500 = 165,092,698,500

22,250,870,000 + 46,628,000,000 - 6,513,400,000 = 62,365,470,000

165,092,698,500 / 62,365,470,000 = 2.65

ian wrote:Kismet part 2
18,905 Defence supers - 4,726,250,000 kuwal's worth.
1,991 Defence soldiers - 228,965,000 kuwal's worth.
11,360 Attack supers - 2,840,000,000 kuwal's worth.
3,892 Attack soldiers - 447,580,000 kuwal's worth.

Total: 8,242,795,000 kuwal's worth of losses. Since his strike and defence are at 0, and the attackers are using tiny tiny tiny strikes... the repair costs will be tiny, and the only major expense will be A.T - so say 1,000,000,000 costs for The Imperium

Survivor wrote:yup kenzu, I meant since war started
heres something to add as well :

7804 spies ( 780,400,000 + 351,180,000 = 1,131,580,000 kuwal worth ) lost while sabbing syndicate of APC worth 2,604,000,000 kuwal

can't say a very good ratio but still... increases the numbers

ian wrote: Lord Pegasus:
Attack Supers: 28,528 - 7,132,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Attack Soldiers: 0
Defence Supers: 110,989 - 27,747,250,000 kuwal's worth.
Defence Soldiers: 5,656 - 650,440,000 kuwal's worth.
Assassins: 21,416 - 3,105,320,000 kuwal's worth.
Spies: 0

120,000 IFV's: 22,080,000,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Lord Pegasus Lost: 60,715,010,000 kuwal's worth.

Kenzu:
Attack Supers: 15,051 - 3,762,750,000 kuwal's worth.
Attack Soldiers: 942 - 108,330,000 kuwal's worth.
Defence Supers: 74,748 - 18,687,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Defence Soldiers: 4,602 - 529,230,000 kuwal's worth.
Assassins: 67,266 - 9,753,570,000 kuwal's worth.
Spies: 31,401 - 4,553,145,000 kuwal's worth.

86,675 IFV's - 15,948,200,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Kenzu Losses: 53,342,225,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Kenzu and Lord Pegasus Losses: 114,057,235,000 kuwal's worth.

Imperium Losses for BOTH attacks:

superkingtsob: 28,555 attack supers - 7,138,750,000 kuwal's worth
superkingtsob: 12,000,000,000 kuwal's worth for repairs.
Smog - 12,000 Attack supers - 3,000,000,000 kuwal's worth for repairs.
Smog: 3000 assassins - 435,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Smog: 8.7billion kuwal repair costs.
reaper: 14,000 assassins - 2,030,000,000 kuwal's worth.
souldog: 1.7billion kuwal
Blackeagle: 3,000 assassins - 435,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Blackeagle: 13,000 Attack Supers - 3,250,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Blackeagle: 8.5billion repair costs
Dursum: 8000 attack supers - 2,000,000,000 kuwal's worth.
Dursum: 7billion repair costs
Myself - 1.5billion kuwal repairs

Total Imperium Empire losses: 57,688,750,000 kuwal's worth.

We came, we saw, we conquered - Long Live The Imperium Empire!!!

Day 3 after WR launched an attack on TIE.
165,092,698,500+ 8,242,795,000 + 2,604,000,000 + 114,057,235,000 = 289,996,728,500

62,365,470,000 + 1,000,000,000 + 1,131,580,000 + 57,688,750,000 = 122,185,800,000

289,996,728,500 / 122,185,800,000 = 2.4

ratio dropped a we bit since Kenzu and Lord were smart enough to move retrain all of their miners. This cost them billions which is why they have yet to launch a strike on TIE. No more money. They were forced onto protection for for 4 days to allow them time to retrain all of their units. You guys sure do have a nice long list left I made that list

score, reduced income and no money to strike back...

That is all. =)

Kenzu claims he went to a secret alliance to protect his players. Within hours of switching he found out we had a list. Truth is Kenzu went to a secret alliance because he knew straight off that his alliance was about to get destroyed. If the alliance war record score dropped enough it would be near impossible for them to ever be a top ranked alliance since having 1 stat ranked last or near last alliance wise. By becoming a secret alliance everything he is losing now is not factored into his score. Possible the only somewhat intelligent move Kenzu has done since i started playing aderan. To bad for him it may back fire

You should know WR doesnt care for the score (war stats), because we have had inactives for such a long time that the war stats became meaningless.

War experience on the other hand, never falls. The more battles WR takes part, the more its members war experience grows.

PS: You might as well get rid of the costs and losses on Koopa you have added into your nice list, because you have spent your ST and efforts on an inactive player. Seems keeping inactives isn't such a bad idea afterall. WR suffers no damage from your massing of Koopa.

or is that what you want us to think

Massing any member of WR so far didnt take much effort at all yet to be honest. We just pull random ppl that happen to be online and be like hey you want to mass some1?

We massed koopa since the cost to mass was minimal compared to how much we gained. We would have left him alone if not be for him having so much UU in open. That was when you kismet and LP were hiding on protection for a few days so we figured we could play with other members for a bit.

lol wasting our turns :p when are you going to waste your turns ? or are you stuggling to get back on your feet ?

Kenzu wrote:War experience on the other hand, never falls. The more battles WR takes part, the more its members war experience grows.

TIE has rank 1 and 2 war exp and alliance war exp so far in this game.

Your newer members could be learning alot but being we have barely touched them i don't think they can be getting the full picture

aww, I'm kinda hurt, you didn't tell how much it cost TIE to mass me


I'm also female, just as Sara is. Assume more please.

Kismet wrote:aww, I'm kinda hurt, you didn't tell how much it cost TIE to mass me


I'm also female, just as Sara is. Assume more please.

dont worry, it was posted you might have missed it. I'll pull it up for you so you dont feel left out. You were just the first victim since LP went abck onto protection and left you hung out to dry

ian wrote:

On other news, Kismet's account just had a little "accident".

The Imperium Empire estimated losses:

soul dog - 14,325 assassins - 2,077,125,000 kuwal
Mage prime - 14,000 assassins - 2,030,000,000 kuwal
Blackeagle - 16,000 attack supers. 11billion repair costs for strike - 15,000,000,000 kuwal cost.
Casshern - 7,000 assassins - 1,015,000,000 kuwal.
Myself: 8,535 assassins - 1,237,575,000 kuwal.
Spiderx : 6,146 assassins - 891,170,000 kuwal.

Total kuwal value lost: 22,250,870,000 kuwal.

Before we slaughtered Kismet, he had:

112,000 defence supers.
13,000 defence solders
59,000 assassins
59,000 spies
20,000 attack supers
5,000 attack soldiers

128,000 Defence IFV's.

Now he has:

29,320 defence supers
2,277 defence soldiers
23,547 assassins
41,348 spies
19,330 attack supers
4,665 attack soldiers

0 defence IFV's

Kismet's total Losses Broken down:

82,680 defence supers - 20,670,000,000 kuwal.
2,723 defence soldiers - 313,145,000 kuwal.
35,453 assassins - 5,140,685,000 kuwal.
17,652 spies - 2,559,540,000 kuwal.
670 attack supers - 167,500,000 kuwal.
335 attack soldiers - 38,525,000 kuwal.

128,000 Defence IFV's - 23,552,000,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Losses: 52,441,395,000 kuwal.s worth

Yep... it sure looks like The Imperium Empire is struggling to find the ST and A.T needed to keep fighting this war and killing the enemy.... i think defeat could be inevitable!

I have to say, looking at the numbers being posted, it seems massing is far more costly in this game then any others I have played.

289,996,728,500 / 122,185,800,000 = 2.4

If thats accurate.

yes repair costs are insane. Makes the game more challenging

Vesper wrote:

Kismet wrote:aww, I'm kinda hurt, you didn't tell how much it cost TIE to mass me


I'm also female, just as Sara is. Assume more please.

dont worry, it was posted you might have missed it. I'll pull it up for you so you dont feel left out. You were just the first victim since LP went abck onto protection and left you hung out to dry

ian wrote:

On other news, Kismet's account just had a little "accident".

The Imperium Empire estimated losses:

soul dog - 14,325 assassins - 2,077,125,000 kuwal
Mage prime - 14,000 assassins - 2,030,000,000 kuwal
Blackeagle - 16,000 attack supers. 11billion repair costs for strike - 15,000,000,000 kuwal cost.
Casshern - 7,000 assassins - 1,015,000,000 kuwal.
Myself: 8,535 assassins - 1,237,575,000 kuwal.
Spiderx : 6,146 assassins - 891,170,000 kuwal.

Total kuwal value lost: 22,250,870,000 kuwal.

Before we slaughtered Kismet, he had:

112,000 defence supers.
13,000 defence solders
59,000 assassins
59,000 spies
20,000 attack supers
5,000 attack soldiers

128,000 Defence IFV's.

Now he has:

29,320 defence supers
2,277 defence soldiers
23,547 assassins
41,348 spies
19,330 attack supers
4,665 attack soldiers

0 defence IFV's

Kismet's total Losses Broken down:

82,680 defence supers - 20,670,000,000 kuwal.
2,723 defence soldiers - 313,145,000 kuwal.
35,453 assassins - 5,140,685,000 kuwal.
17,652 spies - 2,559,540,000 kuwal.
670 attack supers - 167,500,000 kuwal.
335 attack soldiers - 38,525,000 kuwal.

128,000 Defence IFV's - 23,552,000,000 kuwal's worth.

Total Losses: 52,441,395,000 kuwal.s worth

Yep... it sure looks like The Imperium Empire is struggling to find the ST and A.T needed to keep fighting this war and killing the enemy.... i think defeat could be inevitable!

Thought those losses included from the others that got massed, especially since not all those people hit me, just 1/2 of them... but if I did that much damage with them attacking me, woohoo

Also, I need more people like _death_dealer_ attacking me! Just like him.... over and over and over plz...

Thought those losses included from the others that got massed, especially since not all those people hit me, just 1/2 of them... but if I did that much damage with them attacking me, woohoo Wink

Also, I need more people like _death_dealer_ attacking me! Just like him.... over and over and over plz...

so who in that list didn't attack you ? spiderx and black.eagle assaulted you i did some hunting assassin mission and kilo did too. kilo did some invasions too. and then your covert def and assassins got assassinated which you can't even see who did it . check all of your logs before you say something kismet. we are only trying to be fair and not lie about anything we do

souldog wrote:

Thought those losses included from the others that got massed, especially since not all those people hit me, just 1/2 of them... but if I did that much damage with them attacking me, woohoo Wink

Also, I need more people like _death_dealer_ attacking me! Just like him.... over and over and over plz...

so who in that list didn't attack you ? spiderx and black.eagle assaulted you i did some hunting assassin mission and kilo did too. kilo did some invasions too. and then your covert def and assassins got assassinated which you can't even see who did it . check all of your logs before you say something kismet. we are only trying to be fair and not lie about anything we do

I have checked my logs... all of them lol. Had quite a few to go through too!! Casshern and Mage prime I do not see.. I do know you and kilo, spiderx and blackeagle attacked. Ones you missed: keynelhi, PeaceDevil (who must REALLY like me), Tabby, wyvern blade, Caedmon, Darkshield Only 4 of you declared war on me (peacedevil, tabby, darkshield and Magnus)

Not saying you're lying. Casshern and Mage Prime might have done some of those that I couldn't see but that were ????'s in my logs.. However, you did leave a lot of people out

I had a lot of: [17 Oct] 09:15 Assassin Success 18,800 details (usually between 900 and 1200 enemy units lost in those detailed reports, just didn't tell me who)

Had a few [17 Oct] 15:25 ???? Sabotage Destroyed: ???? details.... PeaceDevil did the last one on those, I think I'd already been wiped on my IPVs though so they were wasted missions.

Y'all attacked during college football!! For shame!!!

the people we left out didn't take part of the massing they are smaller members who just wanted to kill something when they came on

Kismet wrote:On another note.. some people are getting upset, personally upset. No reason to do that. This is a game.

I can't say Ian is one of my FAVORITE people, but I don't have anything against him personally. Even if he was the first to start the massing against me.. No big deal. Hurt my armies, didn't hurt me personally, ya know? Now if he came to my house and chopped off an arm, that'd be different, but he hasn't even come close to that.

So people, BREATHE! For crying out loud, dealing with attacks and attacking is busy enough, we don't need name calling and being a jerk about junk. S**T talk is normal, but some of the messages I've read in game and through MSN have been beyond reasonable. Chill, breathe, play. (play laugh grow - sorry, that commercial popped into my head when I put chill breathe play LOL -- now that I think of it, that might be appropriate for some of this)

=> Some people take this game too seriously.

But hey, it is an RPG afterall, so they should role play their character, no matter if the character they play is a peace loving builder or blood thirsty masser.

i'm busy playing my role ! what's your role kenzu ? peace loving builder ? it seems it's not working very well for you then

souldog wrote:i'm busy playing my role ! what's your role kenzu ? peace loving builder ? it seems it's not working very well for you then

I doubt that's his role. )