TMI against World Republic

TMI has launched hostile attacks against a couple World Republic members, mostly assaults, killing millions of units. This means war!

TMI blood is about to be spilled!

1. Shouldn't title be tmi vs wr
2. Don't assaults mean war?
3. Is this a joke i dont see any hits.

seaborgium wrote:1. Shouldn't title be tmi vs wr
2. Don't assaults mean war?
3. Is this a joke i dont see any hits.

1) Maybe

2)
assaults = war
Read my post, seems you missed it when I said: "This means war"

3)
No, multiple WR members reported being assaulted by TMI members. I have no reason not to believe them. I have been attacked as well.

Don't tell me you didn't know about it.
You are the leader of your alliance, and this was not a 1 man attack.
I am sure you were involved in this.

Some of the attackers include:
SA47, Paladius, QUEST, navblue, Jookaremo, kingstars, Elektra, KingKongFan1, King_Mental, Die_Quelle

Sofar our defense was spectacular. Even more successful than in our previous wars. It is clear that we are battle hardened. I estimate TMI will lose around 50 million units in this war.

For World Republic!

1. Thank you for changing it
2. You fail to see what I was saying, but thats ok.
3. Again you fail...

Yes I am leader, but it seems that a mutiny has happened. I am sure if you look at my account it hasn't changed in months.
Kenzu can you please help me restore my power over my alliance.
I fear I am no longer liked or I am not "hip/cool" anymore.


I am not sure how you say your defense was sepectacular..
TMI took out 5 of your 7 defs that were over 100b.
The ones I know missed were
Sara
Daladan, hes dead weight never does anything other then boost Army size count and power count
TMI took out the 1 strike you had over 45b.

WR seems to have gotten smaller...
You all were 153 just yesterday. Now you down to 63.
Did you kick them or did they leave?

seaborgium wrote:1. Thank you for changing it
2. You fail to see what I was saying, but thats ok.
3. Again you fail...

Yes I am leader, but it seems that a mutiny has happened. I am sure if you look at my account it hasn't changed in months.
Kenzu can you please help me restore my power over my alliance.
I fear I am no longer liked or I am not "hip/cool" anymore.


I am not sure how you say your defense was sepectacular..
TMI took out 5 of your 7 defs that were over 100b.
The ones I know missed were
Sara
Daladan, hes dead weight never does anything other then boost Army size count and power count
TMI took out the 1 strike you had over 45b.

WR seems to have gotten smaller...
You all were 153 just yesterday. Now you down to 63.
Did you kick them or did they leave?

Are you being serious that you didn't know anything about it? Shouldn't you as the leader of the alliance then remove those members who went to war without your consent?

Opinions are relative, and if I compare what losses we had in the last war when we faced TMI, I can see a considerable improvement, hence spectacular. Maybe it doesn't feel spectacular for you, but for me it does. For example SA47 used ICBM launchers (1,430,000)+MLRS (864,000) against my Mobile Artilleries(522,000).

Your field scouts report on the status of the enemy: The invaders deal 102,424,439,699 damage on the enemy!
This results in 87,136 casualties amongst the defending troops!
The defending forces return fire and inflict 71,760,106,017 damage on their opponents!
They manage to cause 76,707 casualties in their enemies ranks!

My losses: 87136 * (375+150+522) = 91,231,392,000
His losses: 76707 * (375+150+1079) = 123,038,028,000

1079 is based on the ratio of ICBM and MLRS he is using.

Look, we really don't need to argue about this, because you can claim that SA47 earns more than me and that this is also a victory for him, but it doesn't matter.

You really want to tell me that your members don't listen to you? You know, April fools day was yesterday. Are you really being serious?

Ok I was fooling around, Yes I knew about it. I lead the chat yesterday. I am not you kenzu, I work with my allinace, I try to work with them all. Myself and other leaders extend our hand to any of them. We offer as much as we can of ourselfs and our accounts to the others so that they may learn.

Yes I can agree that compared to the last "war" you guys have improved but that is what happens when people grow complacent and have a very hard time in playing or doing anything in a war game that has more stat building then anything.

I won't argue about the losses, its all simple math. I know that on 2 of you that TMI took heavy losses but that is fine. We knew and prepared for it. I can show you were we killed more then loss. I don't really want to get into any of that. I am more interested how this plays. We have a little poll going on how long this goes and what happens in the end.

I would post the stats, however due to lack of thinking I left my excel sheet at home with the starting values.

I wish WR the best of luck.
I will see you on the battlefield.
May the Gods be merciful with your losses

For TMI
“March to the battlefield, The foe is now before us; Each heart is Freedom's shield, And heaven is shining o'er us.”

Myself
“Let me not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless in facing them. Let me not beg for the stilling of my pain, but for the heart to conquer it. Let me not look for allies in life's battlefield but to my own strength. Let me not cave in.”

seaborgium wrote:Ok I was fooling around, Yes I knew about it. I lead the chat yesterday. I am not you kenzu, I work with my allinace, I try to work with them all. Myself and other leaders extend our hand to any of them. We offer as much as we can of ourselfs and our accounts to the others so that they may learn.

Yes I can agree that compared to the last "war" you guys have improved but that is what happens when people grow complacent and have a very hard time in playing or doing anything in a war game that has more stat building then anything.

I won't argue about the losses, its all simple math. I know that on 2 of you that TMI took heavy losses but that is fine. We knew and prepared for it. I can show you were we killed more then loss. I don't really want to get into any of that. I am more interested how this plays. We have a little poll going on how long this goes and what happens in the end.

I would post the stats, however due to lack of thinking I left my excel sheet at home with the starting values.

I wish WR the best of luck.
I will see you on the battlefield.
May the Gods be merciful with your losses

For TMI
“March to the battlefield, The foe is now before us; Each heart is Freedom's shield, And heaven is shining o'er us.”

Myself
“Let me not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless in facing them. Let me not beg for the stilling of my pain, but for the heart to conquer it. Let me not look for allies in life's battlefield but to my own strength. Let me not cave in.”

Good luck to you too!

Would you mind posting the poll with its results here once the war is over?

I will consider it.

Happy hunting

This war is going to be a very unfair war again. We fought a war recently that ended only on January. While we were fighting the 2.5 month long war, you kept growing. The total account value of TMI is probably 3 times higher than the total account value of WR. TMI has 1.63 billion population against our 1.2 billion. You had 6 trillion power, we had 3.4 trillion. Average TMI account is much older than average WR account. You have also the advantage of the first strike and preparing for the war extensively, while we fight with the war chest we always keep prepared.

But it doesn't matter. Life isn't fair. And World Republic will fight, no matter what comes!

seaborgium wrote:
WR seems to have gotten smaller...
You all were 153 just yesterday. Now you down to 63.
Did you kick them or did they leave?

We had 160 members not on vacation before I kicked inactives. After I removed inactives we had 45. Almost all of them were players who joined in march and played only a single day. But why do you count vacated players? Even alliance ranks don't show them.
I kick inactives at the beginning of almost each month. You should know that by now?

I didn't count anything. I clicked on "Battlefield" then clicked on "Alliance Ranking", it shows 63.

seaborgium wrote:I didn't count anything. I clicked on "Battlefield" then clicked on "Alliance Ranking", it shows 63.

That's weird. I checked now it shows 63, but when I copied alliance ranks yesterday it showed 45. Looks like a possible bug. Reported.

Its been that way for months, and its been reported. It gets fixed then reverts back.

As of right now
all defs of those not on protection have been dropped to below 20b.
Some of the players on protection were also drop close to 20b mark before hitting protection
We have hit all but 2 players over 20b def, 1 being sara, 1 being daladan, both have time coming to them

My count using pre war exp and current exp we have killed 10,760,610 def units, we have lost 9,760,893 attack units.

1 person who is currently off protection has a 80b+ def and has asked to leave the war already. We have given him/her 24 hours, after which point he will be given no quarter.

If anyone in WR so chooses to leave and get out of the war, they are free to do so at any time, however understand that you can not rejoin for 1 month after the end of the war.

This end our war update
Happy hunting.

This made my day:

Time Enemy Target Result Assassins Details
[02 Apr] 15:06 KingKongFan1 Defense Mission Failed 3,900,000 details

=>2.925.000 assassins are dead

Keinutnai wrote:This made my day:

Time Enemy Target Result Assassins Details
[02 Apr] 15:06 KingKongFan1 Defense Mission Failed 3,900,000 details

=>2.925.000 assassins are dead

"Your welcome, I got caught up in the heat of battle."

Well things have already come to a stop for us. Nothing much left to kill, we can kill things but its a high waste of resources.
I wish some that are hiding would come out and play

I will give 1 some props, he did try then got chanced back to protection with only a 1.2b def(roughly)

seaborgium wrote:Well things have already come to a stop for us. Nothing much left to kill, we can kill things but its a high waste of resources.

Please do!

Nice try ken... Sorry Sara.
You just can't beat a gang bang.
We had 4 people hitting 3 with different style strategies so that we knew it would work.
After def went from 169b to 10b we had a few switch to hunting Assassins.
Not sure how many we killed but we got a few good shots in.

seaborgium wrote:Nice try ken... Sorry Sara.
You just can't beat a gang bang.
We had 4 people hitting 3 with different style strategies so that we knew it would work.
After def went from 169b to 10b we had a few switch to hunting Assassins.
Not sure how many we killed but we got a few good shots in.

Sea, you are funny.

Again math is on the side of World Republic. At first you were attacking with a big majority of bad strategies, falling into many traps as Sara changed them. But what you did there with multiple guys attacking with multiple strategies was definitely a very good method to use against a player who is online. Fortunately for us, it has been also countered well, by changing strategies randomly and fast. Unfortunately for us, it was not as efficient as when your guys attacked with the same strategies. But I looked at the strategies used, you did lose more. Statistically you would have chosen more bad strategies than good ones, and here is why:

If 3 guys use different strategies while Sara uses fortified, losses are as follows:

Your guys use: Normal, Frontal Assault, Hit and run:
Your guys losses: 120% 130% 80% = 330%
Saras losses: 100% 100% 100% = 300%

If Sara uses counter offensive:

Your guys use: Normal, Frontal Assault, Hit and run:
Your guys losses: 120% 80% 130% = 330%
Saras losses: 100% 100% 100% = 300%

On average your guys will suffer 10% more losses. And you did have more unfavorable missions than favorable indeed. At the same time, you started employing the strategy rather late so that most of her units have been killed already, lowering your losses only in missions when she had only a fraction of her force left.

The aproximated losses were as follows:
WR: 3.98 trillion kuwal
TMI: 4.38-4.77 trillion kuwal



It is true that you did do some efficient hunt assassin missions at the end. I can't take that from you.

Fortunately only 4 missions have been done.
TMI suffered 94.3 billion kuwal (in attackers), WR suffered 191.8 billion (2.8 billion in defenders, the rest in assassins).
Understandable losses when hunt assassin missions are done.

Total losses in this massing were:

World Republic losses: 4,170,400,000,000 kuwal
TMI losses: between 4,470,760,000,000 and 4,868,620,000,000 kuwal

Not bad considering we were on the defending side. Of course it won't be so favourable for us once you are done massing her account. But that's ok. It's war!

Math is on our side do some spy ops, We're still standing yeah yeah yeah.

mental wrote:Math is on our side do some spy ops, We're still standing yeah yeah yeah.

Depends pn what you wanted to achieve. If you want to achieve destroying more and losing less, then you failed.

If you just want to throw stuff at us, and win by outproducing us, then you can call it a success for all I care.
I see there is not much skill required in winning if you having better accounts than your opponents. And TMI accounts are about 3 times more valuable than that of World Republic (older accounts, account value a multiple of ours). But that won't stop us from fighting and destroying as much as we can. We are used to fighting stronger opponents.

thats ok Kenzu I will take the small hit on the fact that thats 1 more def down.

WR has
1 190b def
1 65b+ def
1 45b+ def
1 35b+ def
everyone else is lower then 20b

Now point out that all 4 of those are on protection.
If you want to point out losses take a look at freethinker
that was a huge waste on our end, but he has 0 assassins and lost 75% of his coverts.

We knew that it would be hard to keep a positive cost, but in the end it will come out ahead.

Soon enough WR will just be farms for the whole server, well 85% are currently.

This party is just getting started.
Enjoy the small things in this war that we give you.

So far we are I think day 3 into the fight. Only 1 person has done any hits on us. His account was blown to bits. Noone else not even you did any hits then when we were hitting you last night, I know you did 3 assults on me.

So now its my turn...

Sara assulted me 6 times at roughlt 11:58 gametime on apirl 4th.

The math results are as follows

assuming 375k per uu

sara lost 119,802,975,000 kuwal
I lost 112,503,444,000 kuwal

Can i get a little help figuring that difference up.
Roughly 7,299,531,000 in my favor.
Since i am on my cell is that higher or lower then the hits on sara?

I know 1 other person hit, who retrned fire. I dont have the results for that right now. I will get back to you once the logs come in.

seaborgium wrote:thats ok Kenzu I will take the small hit on the fact that thats 1 more def down.

WR has
1 190b def
1 65b+ def
1 45b+ def
1 35b+ def
everyone else is lower then 20b

Now point out that all 4 of those are on protection.
If you want to point out losses take a look at freethinker
that was a huge waste on our end, but he has 0 assassins and lost 75% of his coverts.

We knew that it would be hard to keep a positive cost, but in the end it will come out ahead.

Soon enough WR will just be farms for the whole server, well 85% are currently.

This party is just getting started.
Enjoy the small things in this war that we give you.

So far we are I think day 3 into the fight. Only 1 person has done any hits on us. His account was blown to bits. Noone else not even you did any hits then when we were hitting you last night, I know you did 3 assults on me.

You must feel great about yourself

ahh poop
It seems another person in WR can't handle war or a great leader and deleted.

I think after TMI are done with WR we won't hit as it seems someone always deletes after we hit them.