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Post by vaga Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:36 pm

[01 Nov] 13:40 Danuda 54824 8219 7,644,989,706 11,752,065,240 details
[01 Nov] 13:40 Danuda 55988 8746 7,783,796,506 11,304,665,936 details
[01 Nov] 13:40 Danuda 58361 9117 8,174,943,514 11,695,820,532 details
[01 Nov] 13:40 Danuda 61768 9361 9,228,532,345 13,398,249,702 details
[01 Nov] 13:39 Danuda 66009 9522 9,415,650,268 14,119,656,012 details
[01 Nov] 13:39 Danuda 66116 10326 9,676,055,715 13,227,484,752 details
[01 Nov] 13:39 Danuda 73325 10122 9,753,874,842 14,822,357,593 details
[01 Nov] 13:39 Danuda 71133 11330 11,220,310,238 14,615,065,222 details
[01 Nov] 13:38 Danuda 75255 11631 10,481,195,321 13,904,923,968 details
[01 Nov] 13:38 Danuda 83469 11397 11,139,220,957 16,454,969,259 details
[01 Nov] 13:38 Danuda 78827 13100 12,802,934,124 15,419,447,383 details
[01 Nov] 13:37 Danuda 83919 13359 13,803,312,512 17,196,346,080 details

That's how massing is done:P lol
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Post by Smog Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:17 am

Yep, WR is dropping in ranks. Members and alliance.
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Post by Keinutnai Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:09 pm

Smog wrote:Yep, WR is dropping in ranks. Members and alliance.

Is Mujengan in such a desperate situation that its leader has to lie?

Now, to keep it short:

What dropping in RANKS have you noticed? Because I have seen a drop by only one rank.
Most likely because someone in Mujengan bought an account again.

Also, I noticed that you have edited your post. You said before that members left World Republic, but that's also not true, because only a single member left our alliance. Since when does a single number constitute to a plural form? Obviously a spy I booted from the alliance doesn't count, because he didn't leave himself.

Now your edited post claims that we are dropping in members. This is also a lie, because we had 77 members before the war, and have 77 members now.

Don't try to make people think that you are doing well in this war. Because what Mujengan has lost in this war is described with a high 14 digit number. Judging from the losses, this war has no winners, only losers. However the difference between World Republic and Mujengan is that WR achieved its goals, while Mujengan is fighting the war aimlessly. Also WR is much better at recovering from wars than Mujengan.

Keep on boasting with false stats, it's not going to help you. Unlike you, most big players of Mujengan understand what the situation is really like and that's why they keep hiding on protections frightened by the might of World Republic. I wonder if they think that protections will help them. Your small players seem more clever. They understood long time ago that resistance is futile.
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Post by vaga Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:58 pm

That might of wr is on ppt for 4 days. And what is that goal that u achieved since we are fighting aimless?
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Post by Smog Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:00 pm

Can you read? It says :WR is dropping in ranks. Members and alliance.
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Post by Smog Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:02 pm

If you introduce a drawing feature on the forum i can draw it for you, since you have trouble understanding words.
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Post by Keinutnai Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:35 pm

If you think I have nothing better to do, than waste my time with you, then you are mistaken.
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Post by Smog Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:26 pm

Have you started learning math?
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Post by Smog Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:50 am

After almost a week of protection, the mighty warrior HVK entered vacation mode Smile) LOL kenzu.
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Post by vaga Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:20 am

And the wr might went on ptt again.....
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Post by rflash Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:12 pm

Keinutnai wrote:
Don't try to make people think that you are doing well in this war. Because what Mujengan has lost in this war is described with a high 14 digit number. Judging from the losses, this war has no winners, only losers. However the difference between World Republic and Mujengan is that WR achieved its goals, while Mujengan is fighting the war aimlessly. Also WR is much better at recovering from wars than Mujengan.

Keep on boasting with false stats, it's not going to help you. Unlike you, most big players of Mujengan understand what the situation is really like and that's why they keep hiding on protections frightened by the might of World Republic. I wonder if they think that protections will help them. Your small players seem more clever. They understood long time ago that resistance is futile.

Wow ... you are soooo FULL of it!!

Let's analyse your Mensa level logic. All involved in war are losers. WR achieved it's goals. So the goal of WR was to be losers ... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

What might of WR are you talking about. All you know is stay 3-4 days in protection, raise a strike and assault. Going on protection is simply a war strategy, just like keeping your head down is a real war strategy. If you don't a sniper might put a bullet in your head. However using vacation is WR tactic not Mujengan, so stop being a hypocrite when you stayed now 5 days almost non stop on protection. And after we sabed 150 bil worth of weapons what did you do ... of course, went on protection again ... how shocking What a Face


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Post by Smog Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:36 pm

rflash wrote:

Let's analyse your Mensa level logic. All involved in war are losers. WR achieved it's goals. So the goal of WR was to be losers ... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

lol! lol! lol! lol!
You made kenzu look like jocolor
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Post by Steveanaya Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:59 pm

HAHAHAHA 1 hit that you guys made was profitable. The rest weren't :p

[06 Nov] 01:12 Keinutnai 11100 12069 44,635,589,560 3,047,516,883 details

You guys are really smart Smile
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Post by Smog Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:06 pm

Steve, we're friends and all, but you're making false statements here...
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Post by vaga Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:44 pm

Stop making the might of wr to go on ppt damm.... Rolling Eyes
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Post by Smog Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:00 am

He Might go, he Might not... Depends of how mighty he feels.
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Post by StarWolf Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:22 am

lol!

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Post by Keinutnai Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:57 pm

Smog wrote:
rflash wrote:

Let's analyse your Mensa level logic. All involved in war are losers. WR achieved it's goals. So the goal of WR was to be losers ... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

lol! lol! lol! lol!
You made kenzu look like jocolor

Simple thoughts lead to simple conclusions.

On a sidenote, vaga and smog are begging me to post more.

But all I can say is:
Talk less, fight more! Very Happy
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Post by Keinutnai Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:20 am

Small update on the war

WR massed these players today:
Garffi
Lord Zeth
coming
Castravete
Ghyogod
damgood
Amani

Mujengan were not being lazy either and massed some of our members too.
(Including me, but they lost more than me, even with better techs, as they couldn't deal with me changing strategies all the time.)
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Post by Smog Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:40 am

Keinutnai wrote:Small update on the war

WR massed these players today:
Garffi
Lord Zeth
coming
Castravete
Ghyogod
damgood
Amani

Mujengan were not being lazy either and massed some of our members too.
(Including me, but they lost more than me, even with better techs, as they couldn't deal with me changing strategies all the time.)
Correction: not some, MOST
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Post by Keinutnai Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:02 am

Smog wrote:
Keinutnai wrote:Small update on the war

WR massed these players today:
Garffi
Lord Zeth
coming
Castravete
Ghyogod
damgood
Amani

Mujengan were not being lazy either and massed some of our members too.
(Including me, but they lost more than me, even with better techs, as they couldn't deal with me changing strategies all the time.)
Correction: not some, MOST

Impossible. Furthermore, massing players where you started massing but given up half way do not count.
Also, if that really was true, then WR power would have fallen by much more than what it did.

Nice try!
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Post by seaborgium Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:14 am

Nice try kenzu, most of those players hardly keep any def at all.
However Rflash seems to be having an easy time top 15. Last week he was top 10 for better part of the week.

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Post by Keinutnai Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:37 am

seaborgium wrote:Nice try kenzu, most of those players hardly keep any def at all.
However Rflash seems to be having an easy time top 15. Last week he was top 10 for better part of the week.

We leave rflash alone for now. I can explain why after the war.
Then there are players like vaga, who have 300% in strike tech and 300% in covert. Having such techs is like they are massing themselves.
We don't need to do anything and the Opportunity cost is eating up over 100 billion kuwal value of vaga's account each day.

You know, the reason why still some WR have big defenses is because it takes Mujengan forever to mass all of us a single time.

Sure if a Mujengan leaves 1 billion def, we will leave him alone. But if they have 8 billion or more, then we will mass him. Garffi had for example over 20 billion def, and the other massed mujengan 8-13 billion. There is more than one Mujengan we intentionally don't mass. It really makes no point massing a higher tech defense, if there is not enough spies and assassins to mass to make up for a good kill:death ratio. It is simple math.

Also I don't know what you refer to keeping hardly any def at all, because almost everyone keeps small defs also in WR. If we are talking about up to 10 billion def, then that's basically the defs that Mujengan was massing recently. Most players in WR have a small def afterall. No reason to build a big def during a war.

You did make it sound as if Mujengan has massed mostly big def players and us only small defs. Where in fact most players on both sides, who got massed had small defs (around 8 billion)

But what do I have to explain to you. You know how wars are fought. Everything done in this war is as straightforward and in all previous wars. There is nothing special about this war, except that it's more devastating and at the same time, much easier to fight than previous wars.
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Post by Smog Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:20 pm

My impression is that vaga is massing you, not himself... And him being farmed 4 times since the beginning of war because YOU CAN'T SPY HIM has saved a few bucks. But I know, you're using some other kind of math.
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Post by Keinutnai Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:57 pm

Smog wrote:My impression is that vaga is massing you, not himself... And him being farmed 4 times since the beginning of war because YOU CAN'T SPY HIM has saved a few bucks. But I know, you're using some other kind of math.

It's primary school math my friend. Now let's see how expensive it is for vaga to have his nice covert and attack tech. Let's count the opportunity cost.

his covert tech is 300%. It costs 5 trillion to reach 300%, for Kyora 4 trillion kuwal. His attack tech is also 300%. That's another 5 billion.
Then he also made the 4.95 trillion covert skill research. The previous skills were necessary, so I will not count them.

This amounts to 13.950.000.000.000 kuwal invested in attack and covert (excluding covert skills that cost 1 billion and less)
For 13.950.000.000.000. you can buy and train 39.295.000 farmers. At 50% Administrative efficiency, the will earn you: 47.1 billion kuwal per day.
In other words, your strike and covert techs cause opportunity costs of 47.1 billion kuwal per day. The war lasts over 30 days.

This means that you must have caused at least 1.4 trillion kuwal damage more on WR than you lost,
and even then you only brake even on your opportunity costs.

This is why reaching ridiculous 300% techs and doing 5 trillion research is similar to massing oneself.

If vaga for example makes 40 billion profit on farming each single day, even then he will be worse of than if he hadn't made these upgrades.

It costs only 42 billion to reach 150% tech, 343 billion to reach 200% tech, 1.9 trillion for 250% tech and 5 trillion for 300% tech. 200% does make sense for big players, but 300% does not.
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