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Post by Keinutnai Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:58 pm

Since there is no official war thread, here is the official war thread for the current Mujengan-World Republic war. (The title of the other thread is misleading)

The war started on 18 July 2012.

Below you will find the dates and the damage inflicted on World Republic by massings organised by World Republic:

Mujengan members:
Smog (repeatedly massed)
coming (defense massed)
Castravete (fully massed)
Merida (minor damage)
Vaga (defense massed)
navblue (fully massed)
Sajidrh (fully massed)
LordZeth (fully massed)
fivel (fully massed)
sandokan555 (defense massed)
zy-fy (fully massed)
Truestrike (fully massed)

fully massed = wiped out defense, spies, assassins and optionally killed attackers, workers and miners
defense massed = defense destroyed, or defense decreased by over 1,000,000 defenders.

Mujengan losses:
18,730,391 Castravete
15,732,385 Sajidrh
_9,730,901 Truestrike
_8,288,835 fivel
_6,767,485 Smog
_6,418,087 zy-fy
_4,960,119 LordZeth
_4,444,155 coming
_3,591,940 navblue
_3,520,372 vaga
__,353,919 sandokan555
__,218,060 Merida
82,756,649 TOTAL MUJENGAN LOSSES


Statistics of the last 30 days:
WR inflicted most kills on:
#1 navblue
#2 Smog
#3 zy-fy
#4 Castravete
#5 fivel


Mujengan members assaulted by WR in the last 30 days:
navblue
Smog
zy-fy
Castravete
fivel
sandokan555
Lord Zeth
coming
Merida


Most devastating days for Mujengan in this war:
20-08 18,487,412 Mujengan units killed (or raided from Castravete)
22-07 14,524,222 Mujengan units killed
29-08 _7,649,200 Mujengan units killed
29-07 _5,566,021 Mujengan units killed
20-07 _5,348,505 Mujengan units killed
31-07 _5,009,472 Mujengan units killed


Now it's much harder to find juicy targets and most miners have either been already killed or been untrained.

25% of Mujengan have given up after repeated massing by World Republic.
During this war 3 out of 12 Mujengan members have given up (left alliance or activate vacation mode) after World Republic has massed them (Sajidrh, Truestrike, navblue).
Sajidrh left Mujengan after losing most of his population and repeated massings (lost 15.7 million units).
Truestrike activated vacation mode after been fully massed, and later sabbed and his newly built defense crushed again (lost 9.7 million units).
navblue activated vacation mode after his defense was crushed despite rebuilding it, when his 6 million spies and assassins were exposed and were about to be destroyed by WR (lost 3.6 million soldiers with weapons).


October has only started and it has seen heavy massing against Smog, who lost 1,548,703 soldiers two days ago.
Our attention during this war has forced him to waste around 4,900,000,000,000 kuwal on defense tech, raising it from 300% to 325%.
The 7% less losses he will have will never make up for the investment he has made.
(We would have to kill 67,000,000 of his defense soldiers with weapons for it to pay off for him.)

He also raised his attack tech by about 30% from 340% to 370%. Another 7,600,000,000,000 kuwal wasted.
He suffers 8% less losses from this, so it will pay off for him after he lost 90,700,000 attack soldiers, or 95 trillion kuwal invested in strike.

That's 12.5 trillion wasted on useless research.

Would have been more useful to train soldiers and mass with it instead.


The war goes on.
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Post by Keinutnai Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:46 am

Failed assassinations by coming:
[02 Oct] 11:08 coming Covert Mission Failed 370,000 details
[02 Oct] 11:06 coming Covert Mission Failed 330,000 details
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Post by austin5650 Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:39 am

I'm interested if there are plans for a peace settlement between the two in the near future?
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Post by Nomad Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:42 am

Might want to ask in the other thread, the one everyone but Kenzu uses.
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Post by austin5650 Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:52 am

Nomad wrote:Might want to ask in the other thread, the one everyone but Kenzu uses.
what's the deal with that?
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Post by Nomad Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:58 am

Ask Kenzu, he started the second thread for some reason.
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Post by Keinutnai Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:35 pm

austin5650 wrote:
Nomad wrote:Might want to ask in the other thread, the one everyone but Kenzu uses.
what's the deal with that?
They are boycotting it.

If the title of the other thread changes to a proper title, I won't mind if those two threads merge.

austin5650 wrote:I'm interested if there are plans for a peace settlement between the two in the near future?
No side has come forward with any peace offer. World Republic isn't planning to make the first move. At least not before we complete all our objectives for this war.
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Post by castravete Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:52 pm

aaa...soooo...after 3 months you realised that the thread has a innapropiate title?
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Post by Keinutnai Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:47 pm

castravete wrote:aaa...soooo...after 3 months you realised that the thread has a innapropiate title?

Everyone knew it all along. The chosen title name is not an appropriate way of informing the community on what is going on and doesn't even name the participating alliances.

At first it wasn't even a war thread. And there wasn't even a war declaration by Mujengan. I didnt bother making a new thread at that time, because I thought you would change the name yourself eventually. I was wrong.

Obviously, no outsider will know that it's a war thread by looking at it. And in the future if someone looks at the subforum they are never going to guess from the title that there was a 2nd war between World Republic and Mujengan. But now they will know.



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Post by castravete Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:30 pm

Keinutnai wrote:
castravete wrote:aaa...soooo...after 3 months you realised that the thread has a innapropiate title?

Obviously, no outsider will know that it's a war thread by looking at it. And in the future if someone looks at the subforum they are never going to guess from the title that there was a 2nd war between World Republic and Mujengan. But now they will know.


By this statement you mean the thousands of players that are also active on the forum?
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Post by vaga Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:00 pm

Keinutnai wrote:Since there is no official war thread, here is the official war thread for the current Mujengan-World Republic war. (The title of the other thread is misleading)

The war started on 18 July 2012.

Below you will find the dates and the damage inflicted on World Republic by massings organised by World Republic:

Mujengan members:
Smog (repeatedly massed)
coming (defense massed)
Castravete (fully massed)
Merida (minor damage)
Vaga (defense massed)
navblue (fully massed)
Sajidrh (fully massed)
LordZeth (fully massed)
fivel (fully massed)
sandokan555 (defense massed)
zy-fy (fully massed)
Truestrike (fully massed)

fully massed = wiped out defense, spies, assassins and optionally killed attackers, workers and miners
defense massed = defense destroyed, or defense decreased by over 1,000,000 defenders.

Mujengan losses:
18,730,391 Castravete
15,732,385 Sajidrh
_9,730,901 Truestrike
_8,288,835 fivel
_6,767,485 Smog
_6,418,087 zy-fy
_4,960,119 LordZeth
_4,444,155 coming
_3,591,940 navblue
_3,520,372 vaga
__,353,919 sandokan555
__,218,060 Merida
82,756,649 TOTAL MUJENGAN LOSSES


Statistics of the last 30 days:
WR inflicted most kills on:
#1 navblue
#2 Smog
#3 zy-fy
#4 Castravete
#5 fivel


Mujengan members assaulted by WR in the last 30 days:
navblue
Smog
zy-fy
Castravete
fivel
sandokan555
Lord Zeth
coming
Merida


Most devastating days for Mujengan in this war:
20-08 18,487,412 Mujengan units killed (or raided from Castravete)
22-07 14,524,222 Mujengan units killed
29-08 _7,649,200 Mujengan units killed
29-07 _5,566,021 Mujengan units killed
20-07 _5,348,505 Mujengan units killed
31-07 _5,009,472 Mujengan units killed


Now it's much harder to find juicy targets and most miners have either been already killed or been untrained.

25% of Mujengan have given up after repeated massing by World Republic.
During this war 3 out of 12 Mujengan members have given up (left alliance or activate vacation mode) after World Republic has massed them (Sajidrh, Truestrike, navblue).
Sajidrh left Mujengan after losing most of his population and repeated massings (lost 15.7 million units).
Truestrike activated vacation mode after been fully massed, and later sabbed and his newly built defense crushed again (lost 9.7 million units).
navblue activated vacation mode after his defense was crushed despite rebuilding it, when his 6 million spies and assassins were exposed and were about to be destroyed by WR (lost 3.6 million soldiers with weapons).


October has only started and it has seen heavy massing against Smog, who lost 1,548,703 soldiers two days ago.
Our attention during this war has forced him to waste around 4,900,000,000,000 kuwal on defense tech, raising it from 300% to 325%.
The 7% less losses he will have will never make up for the investment he has made.
(We would have to kill 67,000,000 of his defense soldiers with weapons for it to pay off for him.)

He also raised his attack tech by about 30% from 340% to 370%. Another 7,600,000,000,000 kuwal wasted.
He suffers 8% less losses from this, so it will pay off for him after he lost 90,700,000 attack soldiers, or 95 trillion kuwal invested in strike.

That's 12.5 trillion wasted on useless research.

Would have been more useful to train soldiers and mass with it instead.


The war goes on.


I wonder if u even believe that crap....what was for lunch that day kenzu??? i bet something brown. lol!

2 World_Republic_(TOC) Keinutnai 2,685,301,465,715 69,082,421,428 58

3 Mujengan Smog 3,244,064,178,929 47,218,426,585 12

Xp when the war started

2 Mujengan Smog 2,662,492,188,620 77,436,955,526 9
3 World_Republic_(TOC) Keinutnai 965,170,779,532 93,680,436,386 28




Mujengan got 30.2 bil xp
WR got 24.598 bil xp
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Post by Keinutnai Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:10 pm

vaga wrote:
Keinutnai wrote:Since there is no official war thread, here is the official war thread for the current Mujengan-World Republic war. (The title of the other thread is misleading)

The war started on 18 July 2012.

Below you will find the dates and the damage inflicted on World Republic by massings organised by World Republic:

Mujengan members:
Smog (repeatedly massed)
coming (defense massed)
Castravete (fully massed)
Merida (minor damage)
Vaga (defense massed)
navblue (fully massed)
Sajidrh (fully massed)
LordZeth (fully massed)
fivel (fully massed)
sandokan555 (defense massed)
zy-fy (fully massed)
Truestrike (fully massed)

fully massed = wiped out defense, spies, assassins and optionally killed attackers, workers and miners
defense massed = defense destroyed, or defense decreased by over 1,000,000 defenders.

Mujengan losses:
18,730,391 Castravete
15,732,385 Sajidrh
_9,730,901 Truestrike
_8,288,835 fivel
_6,767,485 Smog
_6,418,087 zy-fy
_4,960,119 LordZeth
_4,444,155 coming
_3,591,940 navblue
_3,520,372 vaga
__,353,919 sandokan555
__,218,060 Merida
82,756,649 TOTAL MUJENGAN LOSSES


Statistics of the last 30 days:
WR inflicted most kills on:
#1 navblue
#2 Smog
#3 zy-fy
#4 Castravete
#5 fivel


Mujengan members assaulted by WR in the last 30 days:
navblue
Smog
zy-fy
Castravete
fivel
sandokan555
Lord Zeth
coming
Merida


Most devastating days for Mujengan in this war:
20-08 18,487,412 Mujengan units killed (or raided from Castravete)
22-07 14,524,222 Mujengan units killed
29-08 _7,649,200 Mujengan units killed
29-07 _5,566,021 Mujengan units killed
20-07 _5,348,505 Mujengan units killed
31-07 _5,009,472 Mujengan units killed


Now it's much harder to find juicy targets and most miners have either been already killed or been untrained.

25% of Mujengan have given up after repeated massing by World Republic.
During this war 3 out of 12 Mujengan members have given up (left alliance or activate vacation mode) after World Republic has massed them (Sajidrh, Truestrike, navblue).
Sajidrh left Mujengan after losing most of his population and repeated massings (lost 15.7 million units).
Truestrike activated vacation mode after been fully massed, and later sabbed and his newly built defense crushed again (lost 9.7 million units).
navblue activated vacation mode after his defense was crushed despite rebuilding it, when his 6 million spies and assassins were exposed and were about to be destroyed by WR (lost 3.6 million soldiers with weapons).


October has only started and it has seen heavy massing against Smog, who lost 1,548,703 soldiers two days ago.
Our attention during this war has forced him to waste around 4,900,000,000,000 kuwal on defense tech, raising it from 300% to 325%.
The 7% less losses he will have will never make up for the investment he has made.
(We would have to kill 67,000,000 of his defense soldiers with weapons for it to pay off for him.)

He also raised his attack tech by about 30% from 340% to 370%. Another 7,600,000,000,000 kuwal wasted.
He suffers 8% less losses from this, so it will pay off for him after he lost 90,700,000 attack soldiers, or 95 trillion kuwal invested in strike.

That's 12.5 trillion wasted on useless research.

Would have been more useful to train soldiers and mass with it instead.


The war goes on.


I wonder if u even believe that crap....what was for lunch that day kenzu??? i bet something brown. lol!

2 World_Republic_(TOC) Keinutnai 2,685,301,465,715 69,082,421,428 58

3 Mujengan Smog 3,244,064,178,929 47,218,426,585 12

Xp when the war started

2 Mujengan Smog 2,662,492,188,620 77,436,955,526 9
3 World_Republic_(TOC) Keinutnai 965,170,779,532 93,680,436,386 28

Mujengan got 30.2 bil xp
WR got 24.598 bil xp

As you said, WR got 24.6 billion war experience.
The 82,756,649 Mujengan units we killed gave us about 10.8 billion war experience. Thus we gained another 13.8 billion war experience by being massed by Mujengan.
Scroll down to the accurate calculation to see how I calculated this number. I am certain you have not bothered to even check if the figures could be correct, otherwise you would not be trying to prove me wrong by posting the war experience.


Thank you for providing me with evidence against your own arguments. The war experience shows clearly that we earned enough war experience to have done all the operations that we did.

Next time do some math before trying to counter facts. Do you think we earned the 24.8 billion war experience by not doing anything?
With our strikes against Mujengan we earned almost half of all the war experienced gained. The other half was earned passively by killing Mujengan units while being massed by Mujengan when they attacked.

"WR got 24.598 bil xp"
Ever thought how big the number is? How many units you have to kill to get so much war exp?

24,598,000,000 war exp = 409,966,666 spies, assassins, workers and miners.
The 83 million we killed, easily fit inside the 24.6 bill war exp!



more accurate calculation:

when killing 2 defense soldiers with MA, 1 will die, 1 will get wounded and 2 MA will be destroyed.
War experience: 208 WE for 2 weapons, 200 WE for dead defender and 0 WE for wounded defender.
This means inflicting 2 casualties on defenders with MA gives 408 WE.
(Or 204 per armed defender, because only 50% really die)

24,598,000,000 war exp = 120,578,431 defenders killed (according to reports. 50% will however recover)


Accurate calculation:
With 82,756,649 total mujengan killed, about 50% were soldiers (mostly defenders), about 40% were spies or assassins, and about 10% workers and miners.

204 per armed defenders, 60 per spy or assassin, 50 per worker or miner

82,756,649 * 0.5 * 204 +
82,756,649 * 0.4 * 60 +
82,756,649 * 0.1 * 50 =

8,441,178,198 war exp for defenders+
1,986,159,576 war exp for spies and assassins+
413,783,245 war exp for workers and miners
=10,841,121,019 war exp.

Earning 10.8 billion war exp from massing Mujengan and another 13.8 billion war exp from being massed by Mujengan is reasonable.


The only thing that I regret is that World Republic massed Mujengan less than Mujengan massed World Republic.
But I am satisfied with the damage we have dealt and the improvement of WR performance nonetheless.
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Post by castravete Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:13 am

'As you said, WR got 24.6 billion war experience.
The 82,756,649 Mujengan units we killed gave us about 10.8 billion war experience. Thus we gained another 13.8 billion war experience by being massed by Mujengan.
Scroll down to the accurate calculation to see how I calculated this number. I am certain you have not bothered to even check if the figures could be correct, otherwise you would not be trying to prove me wrong by posting the war experience.'


If you got 10.8 by killing 82.7 mil units and 13.8 by getting massed...I think that tells enough...now enough with this thread...I think it's made by you to you to prove yourself your greatness...lol:))
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Post by Keinutnai Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:47 pm

Here an update on the war:

(I had the report already on the 11th of November, but only now found the time to post it)

From 11 October until 11 November the reported losses inflicted on Mujengan in operations initiated by World Republic amount to 10,823,861 soldiers with MA or MLRS.

The total Mujengan losses during this period amount to 11,494,940,382,000-13,345,820,613,000 kuwal (10.5-13.3 trillion kuwal)

UU price: 390,000 kuwal

The losses are distributed as follows:
4,082,768 vaga
3,206,528 Castravete
2,703,280 Truestrike (fivel plays on this account. Real Truestrike left for good)
_,534,643 LordZeth
_,296,642 zy-fy


Real losses of Mujengan are somewhat higher, because not all missions have been reported and some missions are known to be missing in this report. Real Mujengan losses can be up to 10% higher than the losses in this report.
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Post by Keinutnai Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:41 pm

New update on the war:

Additional Mujengan losses in our last operation:
7,112,503 units + weapons = 6.7 trillion kuwal

Lord Zeth suffered much more losses than us. In all missions done against him, his losses were substantially larger than ours. Our estimated losses were less than 50% of his losses.

Against Castravete we suffered similar losses as him, however our losses didn't influence us considering WR shares the costs. When I killed almost 2 million of his soldiers, I suffered only 7.7% more losses than him. (I lost 2,044,787 soldiers killing 1,898,192 of his soldiers.)

During this war we also forced Castravete to shift from MLRS to Mobile Artilleries. After months of using MLRS stubbornly, he shifted weapon production completely to Mobile Artilleries.


(UU = 390,000 kuwal)
Castravete losses:
4,510,947 defense soldiers with MA = 4.8 trillion kuwal

Lord Zeth losses:
attackers 365,523
defenders914,023
spies 570,205
assassins 735,025
Mobile Artilleries destroyed in sabs: 749,810
Mobile Artilleries destroyed in assaults: 540,519

Total Lord Zeth losses: 2,584,776 units + 1,290,329 MA = 1.9 trillion kuwal

zy-fy losses 16780 soldiers with MA. (negligible damage)






Also, since Castravete likes to brag about Mujengan assaults on WR that started with a sab, he should look at this:

When we massed Lord Zeth, he suffered 2 times more losses in assaults. Sabbing him was also very favourable. We sabbed 750k of his weapons at a small loss of spies.

First column are his losses (red), the second column are WR losses (blue)

[21 Nov] 09:37 LordZeth 22213 11641 8,611,714,902 26,310,661,034 details
[21 Nov] 09:36 LordZeth 22462 13066 10,714,513,449 27,165,739,264 details
[21 Nov] 09:35 LordZeth 22397 14096 11,590,053,783 26,459,944,786 details
[21 Nov] 09:35 LordZeth 23184 14644 11,590,635,030 25,714,219,084 details
[21 Nov] 09:34 LordZeth 25881 14128 11,230,810,465 27,993,791,727 details
[21 Nov] 09:34 LordZeth 24657 15932 12,667,044,069 26,085,114,126 details
[21 Nov] 09:34 LordZeth 26410 15989 13,558,618,083 29,099,034,228 details
[21 Nov] 09:34 LordZeth 28396 15993 13,113,978,564 29,490,426,435 details
[21 Nov] 09:33 LordZeth 30321 16115 14,082,440,919 32,673,400,231 details
[21 Nov] 09:33 LordZeth 30537 17199 14,462,728,037 30,924,224,350 details
[21 Nov] 09:33 LordZeth 29382 19178 16,251,514,160 29,458,414,368 details
[21 Nov] 09:32 LordZeth 33281 18195 16,021,953,506 33,874,272,506 details
[21 Nov] 09:32 LordZeth 35964 18108 16,111,517,211 36,059,452,411 details
[21 Nov] 09:32 LordZeth 34118 20483 17,404,715,426 32,078,561,369 details
[21 Nov] 09:32 LordZeth 35730 20989 18,783,568,934 34,735,150,339 details
[21 Nov] 09:31 LordZeth 35667 22546 20,212,006,230 34,208,189,146 details
[21 Nov] 09:31 LordZeth 37921 22745 20,680,240,958 36,282,409,443 details
[21 Nov] 09:31 LordZeth 38917 23766 23,359,610,316 39,638,972,433 details
[21 Nov] 09:30 LordZeth 43503 22826 21,421,240,467 41,467,075,889 details
[21 Nov] 09:30 LordZeth 40376 26353 24,246,129,760 37,285,721,631 details

Castravete, you keep talking as if assaults required some special skill. They don't.

I wonder how long it will take you to realise that kill:loss ratio in assaults is no measure of skill. Those are just simple missions that require simple clicking. The effectiveness of assaults are based not on a players skill, but on attackers and defenders techs and preceding sabs. So if you want to brag about something, you can brag about making a good sab. But bragging about good assaults, trying to make yourself look like a "skilled assault mission player" makes no sense. Maybe you will realise this, when you read the battle logs I posted in the same way as you posted Mujengan's before.

Also, those numbers say very little about actual effectiveness of the assault, because it is unknown how many units were armed on both sides. Also, I noticed that even earlier, vaga made a similar post and he didn't mention a sab was made, some people might assume that such results were obtained without a sab, so without mentionong sabbing, vaga was telling us half-truths.

Maybe by looking at our logs, you both will get a better understanding by looking at it from a different angle. Or maybe not.

Point is, assaults are no measure of skill. Efficiency is solely based on technology, weapons used, and proportion of armed men.
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Post by castravete Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:48 am

Are this missions good enough in assassiantion and sabotage:

Assassin:

[28 Nov] 07:37 -reaper- Covert Success: 150,000 details

Assassination Mission Report

Under the cover of night, your 150,000 assassins sneak into -reaper-'s realm with a malicious intent.
Your assassins engage their mission in the enemy realm, they attempt to locate their targets and assess the enemy assassin networks. After a brief analysis they engage their enemy and even though the mission is an success, some of your troops fall prey to the defending realms assassination squads. Those who return are able to present you the following report:

Enemy Agents Killed: 70,021


Now shut up. Stop dreaming.

And for the future try to also post your "colective" losses...Man, they are huge coming from a bunch of semiactive nabs...HUGE!
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Post by castravete Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:55 am

And another thing...to prove you ar full of...yourself:

I lost 4,510,947 defense soldiers with MA = 4.8 trillion kuwal...Are you draming, baby bro?...Who told you to come up with this dreamy number, dude?...Are you that low...Talk some sense to this little fellow, please someone.

Since I came back to AW this is the total number of def soldiers lost:

Defense Soldiers Lost 7,222,933

Are you telling me that 4.5 mil are killed only this war?...What the hell?...WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DREAMING, DUDE?..STOP JUST STOP DREAMING!

The great alliance leader and admin brother hides on the 2-3 page of this game and barks about stats and resources that only can him and his bunch of feeders dream about. STOP DREAMING, you sore loser!

By the way - colective effort and colective losses = the bunch of nabs that constantly feed you. Just to be clear. You keep on telling those suckers that you guys win the war and the nabs keep on feeding you;)...Nice colective:))
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Post by Keinutnai Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:11 pm

Chill

The only one dreaming is you.

Your anger will not change facts.

You keep getting worked up because you often lack important information. This time you get worked up, because you don't understand how the game works. Again lack of knowledge on your behalf.

PS: The 4.5 million is the number of your casualties. what reports call killed is not the same as what war experience counts as killed. 50% of your killed units become wounded instead and are thus not counted as killed in your war experience, because you get them back one day. This applies to all assaults and destruction missions only. If an assault report says that you killed 10,000 soldiers, if all were armed you actually destroyed 10,000 weapons, killed 5,000 soldiers, and wounded 5,000. Your war experience will grow by kuwal worth 10,000 weapons and 5,000 soldiers. Sad you didn't know this after playing Aderan Wars for so many years. Keep better track of updates in the future. This one was around for almost 2 years now.

Now you can start arguing that those are casualties, not number of killed units, but I am not going to argue with you about such petty things, because this doesn't change the ratio of losses in assaults, since both sides get 50% wounded. Is it less than 4.8 trillion losses for you? Yes and no. Immediately after the massing, your account is really worth 4.8 trillion less, because wounded are useless until they are healed. You are simply slowly getting some of the value back as your wounded heal. So in the short run you suffered 4.8 trillion losses, after a month it will be less. Next time think, before you speak up.

7,222,933 defender losses in war experience, since you came back (you came back less than 2 years ago, thus after the wounded update) = 14,445,866 defender casualties in assaults, if no defenders were assassinated. So you suffered almost 1/3 of all your losses in a single operation of ours. Compare the 14.4 million defender losses with the losses you suffered according to my posts and you will see that the numbers are similar. Our number is higher because we also killed your spies, assassins, and probably also other units too.

Don't argue with me about this. You cannot win.
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Post by castravete Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:30 pm

I can't argue with you...I can't get at that low level no matter how much I would try.

Now here's the thing: if I'm not mistaken the wounded thing has been added two years ago?...I don't really think...but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Despite the fact you killed all those units...which by the way you haven't, dreamboy, you lost well above...Let me correct myself: Way far out more than me and this was you nabs hurting your accounts only by hiting me. If you allow me to add the huge losses I caused when I hit you little nabs...than dude: excuse me:))...So go take some maths lessons, you sore losers and stop with the WWII nazi propaganda. You don't have any collective effort. You have a bunch of nabs that don't progress in any matter and keep their accounts at a very low level. You manipulate the nabs telling them that you win the war and force them to feed your account. They keep on sending resources that you waste trying to get us down and yet you accomplish nothing. ZERO! Every now and then you find a sucker and send resources to him and you convince him to fight in the low level so characteristic to you. That's the war for you: feeding and cheating!

The next time you bark about resources and profitable hits try also to do the maths for your nabs. Try not to advice me to think before I speak, because as many prooved on this: You never think before opening that piehole of yours, but you have the ace on your sleeve: you cheat you lie and that's kind of the only thing you do. Aaa...also when you feel defeated you run like a little sore loser to your brother...forgot that;)
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