TMI against World Republic

Lowering defenses usually implies further attacks, Kenzu ... What you neglected to mention in your reports about Sara is the 400 k assassins she lost as well... and if she wouldn't have hit PPT most of them would now be gone

In any case I'm out. Enjoy the war.

Thank yee for the little dance, Awaiting news of where you were striking.

Happy hunting.

I get confused with so much maths involved....

Kenzu I think my losses aren't as high as yours now ... are they?

It took A DOZEN of you, and you still haven't managed to mass me properly!

SA47, King_Curumo, King_Mental, Truestrike, Seaborgium, navblue, KingKongFan1, Paladius, QUEST, kingstars, Jookaremo, Elektra.
Thats players of the following ranks: rank 1,2,3,9,12,14,18,19,20,30,31,34.

curumo wrote:Lowering defenses usually implies further attacks, Kenzu ... What you neglected to mention in your reports about Sara is the 400 k assassins she lost as well... and if she wouldn't have hit PPT most of them would now be gone

In any case I'm out. Enjoy the war.

I have mentioned it. You might want to read my post more thoroughly.

mental wrote:Thank yee for the little dance, Awaiting news of where you were striking.

Happy hunting.

Happy hunting to you too. We killed millions of units, but it wasn't as good as I expected it to be. I made a tactical mistake, losing more than I should have, but that's ok. This mistake will not repeat.

TMI members hiding on protection isn't helping us either.

curumo wrote:Kenzu I think my losses aren't as high as yours now ... are they?

If you had more losses than me, then I would consider you a newbie player, because when hunting assassins, you should never have more losses than the defender. Your are not new to this game, so obviously you will lose less when killing my assassins, won't you?

But why don't you guys finish my account? I am waiting and waiting here. It takes you forever. And you often give up on me.

We are waiting for Sara Also sorry for not reading your post thoroughly - mea culpa.

As for the attacks - no need to waste any more resources on your acc, since it's completely neutralised for the moment ... and ppt? I haven't been on ppt. Nor do I plan to. Yet only one attack has been made on me.

But Kenzu if you want my (our) attention just rebuild

Otherwise, gl hf everyone in this war!

A dozen of you attack me, yet you still failed to mass me properly. I still have a lot of stuff left. How long do I have to wait?

curumo wrote:We are waiting for Sara Also sorry for not reading your post thoroughly - mea culpa.

As for the attacks - no need to waste any more resources on your acc, since it's completely neutralised for the moment ... and ppt? I haven't been on ppt. Nor do I plan to. Yet only one attack has been made on me.

But Kenzu if you want my (our) attention just rebuild

Otherwise, gl hf everyone in this war!

You havent, but a lot of TMI have!

Hmm a dozen and didn't I chase you to protection single handed only a few hours ago???

1. Theres many ways to mass an account
2. I thought you had, not sure C can read
3. What tactical mistake?
4. I only know 2 or 3 on protection last night, that was me, as I was out at the bar , another rebuilding...
5. I can think of many reasons to have more losses then the defender while killing assassins, and thats to kill them off so that other parts are cheaper to kill off

Why finish? there isn't much left, hardly a def, assins are shot, coverts we made 1 hit to check it and then you untrained some. Also more of a toy then anything.
Your more fun to post against then to play, as it doesn't take much to rid ya of your stats, after you spent roughly 4.5 days on protection, same as your other account.

Biggest def in the game came down last night. Poor daladan, had he picked a better place to play he wouldn't have lost around 11m units( i didn't look it up, just a guess as to I knew what he had).

I like you edited the post, but I see you listed who hit ya, only found 11, but I could have missed on

Keinutnai wrote:TMI members hiding on protection isn't helping us either.

Lets not start this crap...
You been on protection for almost 5 days, your other account same way. The few mins they were off, you got smashed.
Like this morning, 1 person. YES 1 person took you down.
Or lets talk about daladan almost 5 days of protection just to be taken down after he came off.
i am sure if I looked down the list of WR players we could find more.

How much longer you want to do this? You aren't far from hitting 50% of your original power

Also kenzu when you mention you weren't massed properly, at the start of this war you were down to around 1b def.
We started on assassisn and you jumpped to protection

seaborgium wrote:Also kenzu when you mention you weren't massed properly, at the start of this war you were down to around 1b def.
We started on assassisn and you jumpped to protection

ie. you didnt even get to assassins and spies.

Tough luck!

I waited for you on purpose. While you were massing me you were suffering horrible losses. And once my defense was gone, so was I to rebuild it and let you lose more. The more you fought against me, the less you would have left against other World Republic members.

seaborgium wrote:I like you edited the post, but I see you listed who hit ya, only found 11, but I could have missed on

Keinutnai wrote:TMI members hiding on protection isn't helping us either.

Lets not start this crap...
You been on protection for almost 5 days, your other account same way. The few mins they were off, you got smashed.
Like this morning, 1 person. YES 1 person took you down.
Or lets talk about daladan almost 5 days of protection just to be taken down after he came off.
i am sure if I looked down the list of WR players we could find more.

How much longer you want to do this? You aren't far from hitting 50% of your original power

Your point being?
You want me to give up or what?

Can't say the same about the massing earlier ... What'd you loose, close to 2 m assassins?

curumo wrote:Can't say the same about the massing earlier ... What'd you loose, close to 2 m assassins?

2,000,000*(375k+45k)= 840 billion kuwal

You didn't loose little either. You lost 632,836 soldiers with MLRS.
That's 879 billion kuwal you lost on the hunt assassin missions.

Btw, did you know that you lost slightly more when assaulting me?

Kenzu what WR memebers?
I haven't looked but the highest def in WR is liek 29b



GOOO WR!!! Your winning
Your down 50% power, all top defs are gone
GOOOO WR!!!

You haven't answered my question.

seaborgium wrote:I like you edited the post, but I see you listed who hit ya, only found 11, but I could have missed on

Keinutnai wrote:TMI members hiding on protection isn't helping us either.

Lets not start this crap...
You been on protection for almost 5 days, your other account same way. The few mins they were off, you got smashed.
Like this morning, 1 person. YES 1 person took you down.
Or lets talk about daladan almost 5 days of protection just to be taken down after he came off.
i am sure if I looked down the list of WR players we could find more.

How much longer you want to do this? You aren't far from hitting 50% of your original power

Your point being?
You want me to give up or what?

Come on guys, enough with the negativity. Lets look at the good side of things.

@ Kenzu,,,,,,,
Congratulations on pulling off a coordinated hit using multiple WR members. It is good to see you guys working together and doing something. I do have to admit your new tactic is very confusing to me, but I will study it and any new tactics you use to see what we can learn from them.

As for our massings VS your massings,,,, well I would first need to know what you consider a complete massing TBH. All your guys did was take a defense down, but not 0ed. Made 1 hunt assassin. Left a fully built strike intact. Tho the killing of income units at heavy losses to your side still confuses the heck out of me but I know there is meaning to your madness. We on the other hand break defenses, tho do not 0 them either. We also break strikes, but again do not 0 them. then we take assassins down till we are killing 35 to 50K per hit or under 1 mill men total. So I feel safe to say we do better massing then WR.

As for our Protection times VS your protection times,,,, well let me first say I think it is a necessary tactic that allows for rebuilding after being hit and hitting. So I have no problems with, and expect protections from both sides. That said WR has had more members on protection for longer periods of time the TMI hands down, so really,,,,, you want to go there?

Props to
Sup Com Thor
Mikanada
Twvlsman

Nice to see you guys working together. I still do not get your motives for your attack set up, but you pulled it off well. Good team work. I'll figure you guys out soon enough tho.

Props to
Keinutnai

For finally bringing your guys together to work as a team

Props to

redblulu

for becoming active again, tripling your army size and attacking. Its more then 85% of WR has done.



I look forward to seeing more and more improvements in WR, its management, its strike teams, and their effectiveness.


Happy hunting to all!!!!

Keinutnai wrote:

seaborgium wrote:
How much longer you want to do this? You aren't far from hitting 50% of your original power

Your point being?
You want me to give up or what?

Kong does not want you to give up, a couple of T.M.I. members developed a mathematical equation that clearly indicated that we would have infinately more fun if we started a war with WR than if we continued to sit around twiddling our thumbs...

guess what, we tested it & it was correct.

this is the most fun I've had in 2 years of playing AW...

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Keinutnai wrote:

seaborgium wrote:
How much longer you want to do this? You aren't far from hitting 50% of your original power

Your point being?
You want me to give up or what?

Kong does not want you to give up, a couple of T.M.I. members developed a mathematical equation that clearly indicated that we would have infinately more fun if we started a war with WR than if we continued to sit around twiddling our thumbs...

guess what, we tested it & it was correct.

this is the most fun I've had in 2 years of playing AW...

You didnt have that much fun when we fought the other wars against you? Isn't this the 3rd time you are facing us?

1. What questions, i dont remeber seeing any.
2. Sa good point.
3. He said the MOST fun
4. I dont want you to give up. It gves me a purpose to keep coming back to this. Of a game. Besides friends

@SA47
I will get to your post later. One thing was weird to me. Why do you say we had big losses when killing miners and workers? Our losses were minimal.

Your field scouts report on the status of the enemy: The invaders deal 3,100,680,660 damage on the enemy!
This results in 59 casualties amongst the defending troops!
The defending forces return fire and inflict 545,181,139 damage on their opponents!
They manage to cause 1,039 casualties in their enemies ranks!

redblulu's forces Defeated the enemy!

As QUEST's army runs from the battlefield the victors finish their assigned mission and return home:
It is reported that 5,200 Workers and
15,400 Miners

He was armed with tanks:
1039*(375+150+308)k = 865 million

We killed:
5200*(375+7.5)k + 15400*(375+10)k= 7,918 million


TMI lost : WR lost
7,9 billion : 0.9 billion
(losses per mission)

That's a 9:1 kill to death ratio.
And epic ratio if you ask me.

In his last mission he killed 17,154 income units and lost only 842 tank soldiers.
The ratio of the last mission must be also beyond 5:1 ratio. Maybe it's 8:1 ratio.

Killing the income units was an epic success!

PS: I consider complete massing the destruction of defense, assassins and also spies. If there is a big strike, it should also be reduced.
I consider that it's correct to say that you massed someone if you solely destroyed his defense, or maybe sabotaged or assassinated a lot (destroying one military stat), but for complete massing I think it requires not only defense, but also covert and assassin action to be destroyed.

7/25 TMI on protection right now.

Today was a wonderful day. And tomorrow you will see what today has happened
A hint: 16 WR members worked together today to prepare a surprise for you guys. Not even your intervention could stop us. I hope you like it!

Well I do not have the full details before me, I was told all and all 150K miners were killed, after 4 pages of attacks. Looking at the alliance logs i do not get the full details and I fully admit that. All I can see is this.

Spoiler:

I may have misunderstood him on his losses as well, but from above you can see why it made no sense to me. Losing 1039 armed and trained soldiers to kill 59 didn't seem like good odds to me. Not to mention the AT and ST expendatures required by Invasion attacks. I see now those were his defensive losses and not income unit losses and he seems to have lost much more then I previously thought, so kudos to you. Just seems odd to me you leave a 100 bill strike to be used against you, along with assassins that were open to be killed after the defense fell. Its just the differences in how we operate.


As for "Massing" you can forget ever seeing a complete or full massing by your standards coming from us. We do not think the same as you on the matter.

We would much closer to calling the breaking of a defense, along with strike, and assassin power a massing then just breaking a defense and going after income units. Income units can't fight back (outside of defending themselves). Stike and assassins can, so we kill those first. I can't see much point in killing income units and leaving a strike and assassin power standing that can be then used against me.

just the differences between us and how we think is all, but overall it makes much more sense now so thanks for the explination.

As for TMI protections,,,,, LOL coming from someone thats been hiding on protection 80+% of this war I have to say thats commical, and still contend it is a perfectly acceptable tactic for both side that should be expected and used, but if it makes you feel like your doing something then go right ahead.


As for your "16" WR members(I have not seen near that many in the logs, but attacking most definitely is not the only way one can help in a war), I say Congradulations to you all. Seems the war is helping you as much as hurting you so your welcome for that part.

I would like to ask, just so I know. Where the 16 used aganst just the 3 TMI I know were hit or was there more I don't know of?


*edit*
@ arisak,,,

I totally agree with you, and glad you feel the same way.

Keinutnai wrote:7/25 TMI on protection right now.

Today was a wonderful day. And tomorrow you will see what today has happened
A hint: 16 WR members worked together today to prepare a surprise for you guys. Not even your intervention could stop us. I hope you like it!

Dearest petal, I've been rather Ill today and I thought I'd take a day away to recuperate my energies, Don't worry I'll be back over the weekend to continue my relentless assault on you and your alliance.

Interesting you seem to pick up on whom is on protection when you and your wife have spent so many days this week on protection yourself, I do hope you'll be able to rebuild and show me how to mass properly in the next few days.

Happy hunting

Mental

Magnus, received the hardest beating out of all TMI we massed, losing (in about an hour) 9,376,678 units
and 3,476,090 MLRS worth a grand total of 7,268,465,125,000 kuwal.
World Republic suffered losses worth 3-4 trillion kuwal.

His stats before the mass:
Strike Action 67,104,000,000
Defensive Action 92,106,000,000
Covert Action 48,016,800,000
Assasin Action 41,018,400,000

His stats after:
Strike Action: 11,487,785,400
Defensive Action 24,161,760
Covert Action 4,375,824,336
Assasin Action 1,688,317,344

He has been assaulted (WR:TMI losses were at 107:100 ratio during assaults), invaded, hunt assassinated, when he had practically no assassins left, he got his spies assassinated, and attack soldiers assassinated as well, and when he had few spies left, 1,326,910 MLRS have been sabotaged at an epic ratio thanks to the high strike he had, while his attack soldiers and assassins died for tiny losses on our side. I think he felt safe with his 100 billion defense. He didn't expect us.

Changes in his population:
Attack soldiers 1,600,000 => 320,510
Defense soldiers 2,150,000 => 3,083
Spies 2,700,000 => 246,054
Assassins 2,700,000 => 111,132
Workers 2,000,000 => 1,562,746
Miners 1,000,000 => 529,797
MLRS 3,750,000 => 273,910

He lost:
1,279,490 attack soldiers
2,146,917 defense soldiers
2,453,946 spies
2,588,868 assassins
437,254 workers
470,203 miners
3,476,090 MLRS

UU price used for all calculation was 375,000 kuwal.

mental wrote:

Keinutnai wrote:...

Dearest petal, I've been rather Ill today and I thought I'd take a day away to recuperate my energies, Don't worry I'll be back over the weekend to continue my relentless assault on you and your alliance.

Interesting you seem to pick up on whom is on protection when you and your wife have spent so many days this week on protection yourself, I do hope you'll be able to rebuild and show me how to mass properly in the next few days.
Happy hunting
Mental

We are expecting you!
Most of the TMI who were on protection were those who we massed. They were basically runnning away from us.