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Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Keinutnai Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:01 pm
"In exchange we guarantee at least one month war-free, as a probation for you. If you start talking crap again, we resume.
War free means no aggressive missions."
So farming, raiding and spying is still allowed.
Please confirm
"If you start talking crap again, we resume."
What do you mean by crap? Please explain and/or give a couple examples.
PS: I will pass the information on to World Republic members.
War free means no aggressive missions."
So farming, raiding and spying is still allowed.
Please confirm
"If you start talking crap again, we resume."
What do you mean by crap? Please explain and/or give a couple examples.
PS: I will pass the information on to World Republic members.
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Gamniac Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:22 am
I'd rather like to see what qualifies as talking crap, too.
So we won't get any unexpected surprises during the peace month, you understand.
I assume you mean propaganda and taking pride in the War Experience.
So we won't get any unexpected surprises during the peace month, you understand.
I assume you mean propaganda and taking pride in the War Experience.
Gamniac- Aderan Miner
- ID : 5094
Alliance : World Republic
Age : 35
Number of posts : 260
Location : At the bottom of a crater. I always wanted an underground base!
Registration date : 2012-04-12
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by castravete Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:30 am
HO HO HO! Now, Kenzu, it's so nice to see that the Christmas spirit has caught you up, but a little birdie told Santa that you have been a bad bad bad boy this year: you cheated, you lied, you offended people and used a bunch of nabs to for your personal interest. Still, today you have the guts to crawl back to Santa and ask him for some gifts. Santa thinks that you really deserve a lesson or two, as you play on an account or two. Be honest with yourself this time of year and ask yourself: do you really deserve any gifts? So if you want any gift you should make a gift in return, so by giving 3 mil Uu you don't lose so much as you have so many nabs in your alliance with 10 mill army size with 5 mil idles. You have so many nabs that feed you and 3 mil isn't that much considering the amounts of Uu's you receive without giving in return. Right? So, show Santa you can be giving and also show Santa that you can be a good boy and keep you mouth shut for a couple of years? How about it, baby bro?
"PS: I will pass the information on to World Republic members."
Like those nabs would have a thing to say:)))
"PS: I will pass the information on to World Republic members."
Like those nabs would have a thing to say:)))
castravete- Aderan Miner
- ID : 250
Alliance : xxx
Age : 36
Number of posts : 347
Location : Romania
Registration date : 2009-04-13
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by fivel Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:38 pm
as smog's post said: it will be a non agresion pact (farming, raiding will be alowed, spying i think never was a agresive action due to not making any damage against the spied account)
About the ''talking crap part'' it was directed to kenzu in special and it means that you should keep to yourself any comments about mujengan
@gamniac - BRAGING about war results might be considered crap because there are no reasons to brag about a war were wr abviously lost more than it killed, but posting kills and loses i dont think is considered braging
A response to smog's post should be given before 28th of december because we already have the targets for those 3 mil uus and we are looking forward to know if we are going to kill them before new year's eve or not
About the ''talking crap part'' it was directed to kenzu in special and it means that you should keep to yourself any comments about mujengan
@gamniac - BRAGING about war results might be considered crap because there are no reasons to brag about a war were wr abviously lost more than it killed, but posting kills and loses i dont think is considered braging
A response to smog's post should be given before 28th of december because we already have the targets for those 3 mil uus and we are looking forward to know if we are going to kill them before new year's eve or not
fivel- Aderan Miner
- ID : 388
Alliance : Mujengan
Number of posts : 237
Registration date : 2012-04-16
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Keinutnai Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:02 pm
"In exchange we guarantee at least one month war-free, as a probation for you. If you start talking crap again, we resume.
War free means no aggressive missions."
So assuming that no "crap" is said during this one month probation. Will the peace continue?
War free means no aggressive missions."
So assuming that no "crap" is said during this one month probation. Will the peace continue?
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Smog Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:15 pm
Regardless how soon the crap talk is resumed, if we agree on terms, the one month we settle for peace will be respected. What comes after we'll just have to wait and see.
One more thing to add: Mujengan currently recognizes only TMI farming policy.
I'm looking forward to an answer to this post :
"We are enemies, and I regard this information as confidential. At least for now.
But you can be sure it's all obtained through legal and honest means.
I think it won't be a problem to tell you where it came from about a month after the war ended though."
** Examples of C R A P
One more thing to add: Mujengan currently recognizes only TMI farming policy.
I'm looking forward to an answer to this post :
"We are enemies, and I regard this information as confidential. At least for now.
But you can be sure it's all obtained through legal and honest means.
I think it won't be a problem to tell you where it came from about a month after the war ended though."
** Examples of C R A P
- Spoiler:
- Yes, there was increasingly more bad blood. But this bad blood was caused by Mujengan abandoning the mutual defense pact with World Republic, only to revive the MDP when it suited them, be saved by WR in a war where they were being crushed by Imperium only to abandon it again when it suited them. And of course it has also been caused by smogs inappropriate behaviour and repeated lame excuses when he had to compensate for a hit that culminated in the first WR-Mujengan war.
On 13 July, I asked smog for a compensation for a hit made on a WR member. It ammounted to 31 billion. Instead of sending the compensation, he asked me to tell my member to send him a broker. A tactic to have more time to prepare for war? The way it looks to me now is that Smog actually wasn't planning to pay at all, and since he knew we would mass Mujengan if he didn't compensate, he decided that this time Mujengan will start the war itself, to prevent us from hitting them first.
- Spoiler:
- I didn't talk to you.
Alliance ranks on Wed 18 Jul 2012
Rankings Alliance Ranking Ranking By Relation
Rank Name Leader Power War Experience Size
1 AW_Retirement_center KingKongFan1 6,733,884,078,645 68,371,718,220 19
2 World_Republic_(TOC) Keinutnai 2,685,301,465,715 69,082,421,428 58
3 Mujengan Smog 3,244,064,178,929 47,218,426,585 12
We had 559 billion less power than Mujengan at the start of the war and were still recovering from the war that ended only a month ago, while you had full banks when you started the war.
Your argument that we had almost equal power is invalid and your statement wrong.
You are not very mature if you have to make such insults. You shouldn't be visiting the forums if you can't control yourself.- Spoiler:
Besides, there is more potential for a heated discussion if the war started due to false accusations and claims of spies, than if it started for no reason, or because people were bored.
Looking back, it was fun to have those discussions at that time, but I would not repeat it now. I moved on with my life and have better things to do. And although the game and especially my alliance mates are very important to me, the forum isn't important to me at all. And if I don't post in the war thread, it gets very silent, because other WR members are not too fond of it either (although some started to gain interest in it like Gamniac for example), and there won't be much activity if Mujengan only talks to itself.
fivel wrote:
it seams that WR love me more than anyone else, actually WR loves only me and 1 or 2 other Muj member
i`m so proud
We love all Mujengan equally. But those who rebuild are re-visited. And I sense serious communication issues within Mujengan. Don't you get feedback how the war is going? Are you all fighting by yourself without knowing what's going on? Because that's the impression I have after reading your and vaga's posts.
vaga wrote:
After 10 days of war only 7 wr members are on the 1st and 2nd page on the battlefield.
Wr managed to mass just 2 members ( one massed himself).
Kenzu i am still waiting man, getting bored here
When you posted this, you waited on protection (after I killed a million of your defenders). If you're bored, stop jumping on protection all the time like the rest of top players. Regularly about 4-5 Mujengan who are to be massed keep hiding.
vaga wrote:
Cuz wr is doing nothing and we are low on st's????
You think that because you don't seem to communicate with other Mujengan. You make it appear like nothing is happening, when actually Mujengan members get massed heavily, much more heavily than you.
- Spoiler:
- Mujengan has chosen a good time to attack World Republic. Less than a month after a long war of attrition between TMI and World Republic, at a time, where many people go on holidays or take vacation, and some important massers did. Even RL events, such as the civil war in Syria take a toll on the power of World Republic. Fortunately neither holidays nor civil wars last forever, and once these people come back, World Republic will recover its power.
But in the long run, I am certain that World Republic will outlive Mujengan, because with the current leader and tradition of Mujengan, Mujengan seems missing certain important things that make an alliance live for years.
- Spoiler:
- Me and Sara never cheat! LOL
- Spoiler:
- PS: I was right. Arguing with Mujengan is hopeless indeed. The posts of fivel, vaga and castravete show clearly that they post without thinking.
FIVEL
Fivel, you are too lazy to add up the losses, and instead of checking where the numbers come from, you are being rude and think others lie.
Even if you added up assaults irrelevant to our yesterdays massing (the irrelevant assaults are your logs from 9th of august), and compared the numbers, it still would not change the fact that I lost only marginally more than you, because our technologies didn't change at all during this time. It would still be around the 9.7%. And if you want to make a come back and tell me that actually it's 9.8%, then save your time. I am not interested in negligible numbers. If I lost 50% or 100% more, now that would not be marginally more, but 10% is only marginally more.
VAGA
Unlike you, not everyone wants to spend all free time on Aderan Wars. Other people have other interests as well. And that's the reason why I sometimes don't bother going over old battle logs to get exact numbers, when I know approximate numbers. The point I made was that you left around half of my strike intact. The fact that you want to waste my time by saying I didn't have over 1 million units, that I only had 981,742, makes me laugh. You argue over 2%. This is ridiculous.
You also know that a strike action is made up of only armed soldiers, whereas a strike consists of soldiers and weapons. If I said I had around half a strike left, you should have checked if it's true, and by checking I mean checking logs to see how many soldiers and how many weapons I had. How can you make a newbie mistake of only looking at strike action? It's ok if you make approximations without checking, but if you want to call someone a liar, you should not do so, without being 100% sure that they lied. By being too lazy to check properly, or by arguing over 2%, you don't prove that someone is a liar. You only prove that arguing with you is pointless and that you are not trying to have a healthy conversation. You are only trying to argue for the sake of arguing.
And you also called me a cheater based on unfounded claims
CASTRAVETE
You call someone a cheater based on unfounded claims and don't bother checking if it's true. It really isn't that hard to count how many days a person was on protection.
The four of you (including Smog) are very similar in thinking. Maybe that's the reason why all four of you are good friends in RL. I noticed that all four of you like to jump to conclusions, and once you start believing something you will ignore all facts, which are against what you believe in, only so you can uphold the belief in your mindset. You will also fight against them as hard as you can (even though it often looks funny, when counterarguments you provide are ridiculous or negligible. At least it's entertaining for outsiders to read it.). I also noticed that all of you seem to blindly believe anything that Smog tells you, as you don't bother checking if it's true. Now it might good for the alliance to have people, who have such a mindset, as it will forge them to support their alliance and bring unconditional loyalty to the alliance, it will also be very good in real life for people, who you trust, as they will easily be able to manipulate you. But it's not going to be so good for you guys, because those who are easily manipulated, usually tend to end up worse than people who open their eyes.
People, don't walk around with blinders. Open your eyes, start thinking yourselves, question everything you see, check before you accuse, and don't argue about negligible things!
Keinutnai
Aderan Assassin
Alliance: World Republic
Number of posts: 653
Registration date: 2011-04-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by fivel on Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:18 pm
Time Attacker Result Enemy Losses Your Losses Enemy Damage Your Damage Report
it SEAMS THAT YOU REALLY ARE RETARDED (meaning IQ < 70%) in the true meaning of the word
you are playing this game for about 4 years (i think, it's not a fact) and you still dont know how to check the logs, cause the loses in red ARE YOUR LOSES NOOB not mine
and you said OVER 1 MILION, that means it's more than 2%, still a liar who dont even know how to look at the logs
NOW I REST MY CASE, YOU ARE HOPELESS, AN INCURABLE LIAR
as for the logs from 9th of august, those were copied in the hurry with the rest
- Spoiler:
- Since kenzu has been bothering me recently a lot with stuff asking which may or may not be passable as offensive/not offensive i'll highlight the first rule of this forum
1) Always be polite to other players
That being said, I will not let the forum degenerate into a place where people invent nicknames for each other trying to avoid the punishment for direct insults however still openly intending to ridicule or defame someone
"Polite" does not mean "friendly", neither does it mean "accepting"
vaga and fivel banned (vaga forum post, fivel chat)
))))) dunno if anyone is gonna read this LOL
- Spoiler:
- I had those trillions all along. I kept them in case airforce gets released so that I can have an advantage over players who are not prepared. Obviously I didnt want to spent them on TMI and then end up with inferior airforce.
But on Mujengan I spend them gladly.
And just to be sure, I still have some reserves left and will slowly replenish those I used on research. And the day that airforce is released, I will be ready!
Smog wrote:
Mhm, trillions you saved during the war against TMI. One quick question: why didn't you use those GM trillions in the war against TMI, when you were getting crushed?
Your farming and income is barely covering your defense expenses - and that can vary between 100-150 billion daily, depending on our mood.
Why do you keep lying to yourself?
Sure, when you mass me, you might put 200k-300k of my defense down, but those massings almost never happen. In the last 14 days you massed me only twice destroying a total of only 560,032 artilleries in the process.
I can train new soldiers from the wounded and those arties cost only 293 billion. No big deal.
But I have killed 2,835,262 of your soldiers in the last 3 days alone.
- Spoiler:
- s half of them go on PPT and sometimes all of them. When I build big strikes they always jump on PPT too.
But here on the forum they will keep talking how awesome and powerful they are.
@Mujengan
If you are so powerful and great, why keep on hiding on PPT?
It's because you don't want to suffer the fate of the rest of the Mujengan who lost everything once we crushed their defenses.
Smog- Aderan Miner
- Alliance : Mujengan
Age : 36
Number of posts : 223
Location : Romania
Registration date : 2009-04-25
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Keinutnai Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:20 pm
I'm looking forward to an answer to this post :
"We are enemies, and I regard this information as confidential. At least for now.
But you can be sure it's all obtained through legal and honest means.
I think it won't be a problem to tell you where it came from about a month after the war ended though."
Where is the post? And what did it refer to?
If it refers to our war supplies then I can give you the answer already now (although you probably knew all along): The resources came from our members, from my own production, farming and raiding, from profitable trading on GM, gold sales, and from my reserves on the galactic market. All resources have been obtained through legal means.
I hope this is enough information for you, because as I said earlier, I will never publish screenshots of our war supply brokers, and will never make such private brokers public, as information about our supply lines is information I will not share as long as I live.
Regarding your examples: That's enough examples. Thanks.
Merry Christmas!
"We are enemies, and I regard this information as confidential. At least for now.
But you can be sure it's all obtained through legal and honest means.
I think it won't be a problem to tell you where it came from about a month after the war ended though."
Where is the post? And what did it refer to?
If it refers to our war supplies then I can give you the answer already now (although you probably knew all along): The resources came from our members, from my own production, farming and raiding, from profitable trading on GM, gold sales, and from my reserves on the galactic market. All resources have been obtained through legal means.
I hope this is enough information for you, because as I said earlier, I will never publish screenshots of our war supply brokers, and will never make such private brokers public, as information about our supply lines is information I will not share as long as I live.
Regarding your examples: That's enough examples. Thanks.
Merry Christmas!
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Smog Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:31 pm
Still no answer regarding y/n on the peace terms and peace.
Smog- Aderan Miner
- Alliance : Mujengan
Age : 36
Number of posts : 223
Location : Romania
Registration date : 2009-04-25
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Keinutnai Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:36 pm
Smog wrote:Still no answer regarding y/n on the peace terms and peace.
The yes or no depends on WR members, and I am still awaiting their answers. Not all have voted yet.
PS: If they vote in favor of peace, then we might switch to using TMI policy.
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Smog Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:42 pm
Well, you should have talked to WR members before posting here and PM-ing.
On 26 we resume massing.
On 26 we resume massing.
Smog- Aderan Miner
- Alliance : Mujengan
Age : 36
Number of posts : 223
Location : Romania
Registration date : 2009-04-25
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Keinutnai Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:06 pm
I noticed your proposal yesterday. And that's also when I asked them.
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
seaborgium- 2nd in Command
- Number of posts : 2551
Registration date : 2009-10-06
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by kingkongfan1 Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:39 am
seaborgium wrote:What tmi policy?
I think they mean our "farming" policy as keinutnai/kenzu sent me a pm requesting info on it.
kingkongfan1- Coalition Officer
- ID : kingkongfan1(98)
Alliance : [The Marauder's Imperium]
Age : 56
Number of posts : 1387
Location : Skull Island
Registration date : 2010-01-28
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by fivel Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:55 am
sea, glad to see you're still alive mery christmass to you all
mery christmass to you all
fivel- Aderan Miner
- ID : 388
Alliance : Mujengan
Number of posts : 237
Registration date : 2012-04-16
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by seaborgium Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:28 pm
Even sleeping bears nose around :-P
seaborgium- 2nd in Command
- Number of posts : 2551
Registration date : 2009-10-06
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Keinutnai Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:28 pm
Smog wrote:Well, you should have talked to WR members before posting here and PM-ing.
On 26 we resume massing.
"Well, you should have talked to WR members before posting here and PM-ing.
On 26 we resume massing."
Does it mean that the peace offer still stands until 26th december Gametime, or that you cancel your peace offer?
PS: Fivel said we should reply to your peace offer until 28th. Was he wrong?
So when exactly is the deadline?
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Smog Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:54 pm
What's with the 9999999 questions? Seems to me that you are stalling. It's a simple matter of yes or no. And considering your position it's awkward that it takes you so long to decide.
Smog- Aderan Miner
- Alliance : Mujengan
Age : 36
Number of posts : 223
Location : Romania
Registration date : 2009-04-25
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Keinutnai Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:41 pm
Smog wrote:We agree to end the war if you meet the following conditions:
1. You admit your defeat.
2. Lord Zeth and Zy-fy receive 1.5 million uu each as a Christmas present from WR.
In exchange we guarantee at least one month war-free, as a probation for you. If you start talking crap again, we resume.
War free means no aggressive missions.
I admit my defeat. Congratulations, you have won!
Lord Zeth and Zy-fy have been sent 1.55 million UU each from me as Christmas present from WR. (broker sent at 25 Dec 10:39 gametime)
The war is over, well done everyone!
Merry Christmas!
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by fivel Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:53 pm
1. i said 28th december without talking to my friends (i was at work and i posted from the phone taking a random date before new year eve);
2. was it so hard? congratulation for the peace, you've earned it
2. was it so hard? congratulation for the peace, you've earned it
fivel- Aderan Miner
- ID : 388
Alliance : Mujengan
Number of posts : 237
Registration date : 2012-04-16
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Smog Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:57 pm
Keinutnai wrote:Smog wrote:We agree to end the war if you meet the following conditions:
1. You admit your defeat.
2. Lord Zeth and Zy-fy receive 1.5 million uu each as a Christmas present from WR.
In exchange we guarantee at least one month war-free, as a probation for you. If you start talking crap again, we resume.
War free means no aggressive missions.
I(=WR) admitmyWR ,( right?) defeat. Congratulations, you have won!
Lord Zeth and Zy-fy have been sent 1.55 million UU each from me as Christmas present from WR. (broker sent at 25 Dec 10:39 gametime)
The war is over, well done everyone!
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
Smog- Aderan Miner
- Alliance : Mujengan
Age : 36
Number of posts : 223
Location : Romania
Registration date : 2009-04-25
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Smog Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:08 am
This being said, I declare this thread OBSOLETE.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Smog- Aderan Miner
- Alliance : Mujengan
Age : 36
Number of posts : 223
Location : Romania
Registration date : 2009-04-25
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Beldar Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:25 am
Nice war guys, congrats to both sides, especially to the winning one...
Was a funny thread to watch...
Was a funny thread to watch...
Beldar- Aderan Farmer
- Alliance : I dunno :p
Age : 41
Number of posts : 72
Location : Athens, Greece
Registration date : 2010-06-08
Re: And this one is for cheating,MATE;)
by Black Lotus Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:19 am
Well fought everyone! Hope that our relations will be much better in the past future.
Happy new year all!
Hope that our relations will be much better in the past future. Happy new year all!
Black Lotus- Aderan Farmer
- Alliance : Emperors
Age : 31
Number of posts : 60
Registration date : 2009-09-13
Keinutnai- Aderan Assassin
- Alliance : World Republic
Number of posts : 663
Registration date : 2011-04-08
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