Construction queue, improved pictures of buildings and new buildings.

I would like to start by saying that I am not here to start anything, & some may feel that this post is not relevant to the subject of this thread, but I do. as such I present the following...

I do not know this word "queue" I have never heard this word before, nor have I ever used it. it is not in my dictionary nor can I find it on the web anywhere... thanks to another players help I was able to locate the following...

"Queque"- 1. A line of waiting people or vehicles. 2 A long braid of hair worn hanging down the back of the neck; a pigtail. 3. computer science (a) a sequence of stored data or programs awaiting processing. (b) a data structure from which the first item that can be retrieved is the one stored earliest... I would like to point out that I have never seen/heard/used this word either.

having said the above I am not just going to assume that when all the respondents in this thread say "queue" they actually mean "queque" because I am unfamiliar with both, & it could be feasible that they are in fact two different words with two seperate meanings. I will wait & let kenzu clear this up as he is the origionator of this thread...

I would also like to say the following tho technically "it is spam".

I do not go around complaining about players ability to spell, (or lack thereof) as most of the time I can "usually" figure out what is trying to be said. I get that most people will confuse "loose" with "lose" or "kewel" with "kuwal" or "brake" with "break", those are not hard to figure out. I have decided not to "assume" anything concerning this game any longer, so if I cannot understand what is being discussed then you can expect that I will be asking a "lot" of questions until I fully understand what is going on, & if that means I have to ask the same question 50 times to understand then that is what I will do. I have tried numerous times to make it understood that I (at least) do not have the same "background, schooling, training, etc. in computers that others here do, what others take for granted is unknown to me. so please forgive my ignorance.

Nomad wrote:yeah, what admin said.

The training facilities and bank are the 2 buildings. I put 20 trill into training facilities, and start a bank so the bank builds first, no training facilities are built. before the bank finishes I end both, get all funds back, and start again.

Isn't con yard 4 like 48 hrs to build?

But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn. This means that if you are a big player, you might have 20k of them and additional one will cost you 30 million, by using training facilities as a bank, you will spend 144 billion kuwal per day! So it's a horrible option to save your kuwal.

Furthermore in most cases players save up big amounts of kuwal for research. With the new research system in place, the most important cause of saving kuwal has already disappeared.

Spoiler:

@kenzu- Thank you for completely ignoring my post.

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Spoiler:

You are forgiven, no worries, though it is quite a basic word (seriously, cartoons or games I watched/played when I was 5-6), no computer knowledge required
queue is a word. queQue isn't, no clue what weird place you found that
http://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=queue

second result
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queue

or the wiktionary entry:
3. A line of people, vehicles or other objects, in which one at the front end is dealt with first, the one behind is dealt with next, and so on, and which newcomers join at the opposite end (the back). [from 19th c.]  [quotations ▼]
4. A waiting list or other means of organizing people or objects into a first-come-first-served order.

And you can take it from me as if he'd written that, no one has ever heard of queque
There is a chinese instant messaging program called QQ though, but I don't think that's relevant here

test edit

Admin wrote:

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Spoiler:

You are forgiven, no worries, though it is quite a basic word (seriously, cartoons or games I watched/played when I was 5-6), no computer knowledge required
queue is a word. queQue isn't, no clue what weird place you found that
http://www.google.com/search?rls=en&q=queue

second result
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queue

or the wiktionary entry:
3. A line of people, vehicles or other objects, in which one at the front end is dealt with first, the one behind is dealt with next, and so on, and which newcomers join at the opposite end (the back). [from 19th c.]  [quotations ▼]
4. A waiting list or other means of organizing people or objects into a first-come-first-served order.

And you can take it from me as if he'd written that, no one has ever heard of queque
There is a chinese instant messaging program called QQ though, but I don't think that's relevant here

Thank you for this information as it clears up quite a lot of confusion on my part...

As for the part in blue above; the word may be "basic" to you, but I assure you that "Fat Albert" or "Scooby Doo" never used this word. Keep in mind that I am 20+ years older than you, I doubt that the cartoons/games you played/watched at 5-6 years old are the same as what I was watching/playing when I was 5-6...

As far as the other info I posted, it was copy/pasted from a pm that another player sent me, so I got no excuses other than my ignorance of the word.

kingkongfan1 wrote:As for the part in blue above; the word may be "basic" to you, but I assure you that "Fat Albert" or "Scooby Doo" never used this word. Keep in mind that I am 20+ years older than you, I doubt that the cartoons/games you played/watched at 5-6 years old are the same as what I was watching/playing when I was 5-6...

As far as the other info I posted, it was copy/pasted from a pm that another player sent me, so I got no excuses other than my ignorance of the word.

By cartoons I meant mostly the Hanna Barbera stuff on Cartoon Network starting early mid 90's (dexter's lab, johny bravo, cow and chicken, etc.). You're right that it wouldn't be the same
I know occasionally some words popped up which I wouldn't understand until 5-7 years later (being a kid I obviously never cared enough to look into a dictionary, let alone know how to spell the word I barely even heard correctly in the first place), or maybe it was from a computer game (but then again, couldn't have been some majorly complicated one)

Kenzu wrote:

Nomad wrote:yeah, what admin said.

The training facilities and bank are the 2 buildings. I put 20 trill into training facilities, and start a bank so the bank builds first, no training facilities are built. before the bank finishes I end both, get all funds back, and start again.

Isn't con yard 4 like 48 hrs to build?

But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn. This means that if you are a big player, you might have 20k of them and additional one will cost you 30 million, by using training facilities as a bank, you will spend 144 billion kuwal per day! So it's a horrible option to save your kuwal.

Furthermore in most cases players save up big amounts of kuwal for research. With the new research system in place, the most important cause of saving kuwal has already disappeared.

Please reread the post again because you obviously missed the part where the BANK builds first, and it takes 24 hrs. Then the player cancels both constructions meaning NOTHING was ever built, but over 20 trill kewel was stored successfully for 24 hrs. Then come back and reply again as to if you see this issue or not.


Glad to see you still can not understand simple ideas like changing game rules "(But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.)", and not telling the player base, and then wondering why they can't see how something like that effects game play, causes such confusion. Lets me know I should not feel crazy. I seem to have missed that memo about increasing production speed to 100,,, not that it had any bearing on this subject.

Kenzu wrote:
But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

Since Nomad brought it up; I will say that I was curious as to whether this statement was going to become a reality, or if kenzu was speaking hypothetically? I just do not want to derail the topic at hand.

I also must say that I would never have thought of the scenario that Nomad has put forth, it is an interesting one.

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Kenzu wrote:
But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

Since Nomad brought it up; I will say that I was curious as to whether this statement was going to become a reality, or if kenzu was speaking hypothetically? I just do not want to derail the topic at hand.

I also must say that I would never have thought of the scenario that Nomad has put forth, it is an interesting one.

Admin did say it first, I was just thinking the same thing.

Admin wrote:yes but say you dont build the bank because you dont need to increase your bank size by 100% (you're a big player afterall)

you will not build it, then start building it and you have 24 hours to store any amount of kuwal safely.
then 23 hours later, cancel and restart both. A job like that takes 20 seconds and you have another 1 day of unlimited bank

@ Martin,,,,,
Well you have to admit Kenzu gets what he wants a good % of the time. At any rate every AF unit we have is "air" based. Not space based. Unless you intend to create space weapons later? maybe then you can add another building call space port? FTR I thought the old picture looked like a air port as well.

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Spoiler:

@kenzu- Thank you for completely ignoring my post.

You are welcome.
I didn't reply to your post because:
1) I had nothing to say to it.
2) You didn't ask any specific question.

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Kenzu wrote:
But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

Since Nomad brought it up; I will say that I was curious as to whether this statement was going to become a reality, or if kenzu was speaking hypothetically? I just do not want to derail the topic at hand.

I also must say that I would never have thought of the scenario that Nomad has put forth, it is an interesting one.

Told you he wouldn't Kong.

Maybe Admin will respond about the speeding up of construction tho.

Nomad wrote:Told you he wouldn't Kong.

Maybe Admin will respond about the speeding up of construction tho.

yes Nomad you did, that will teach me to ask kenzu to explain something, c'est la vie...

But admin did take the time to explain to me what I didn't know, thanks again.

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Kenzu wrote:
But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

Since Nomad brought it up; I will say that I was curious as to whether this statement was going to become a reality, or if kenzu was speaking hypothetically? I just do not want to derail the topic at hand.

I also must say that I would never have thought of the scenario that Nomad has put forth, it is an interesting one.

It has been stated repeatedly that construction speed will be increased (and demanded by a number of people), especially with respect to airforce buildings
It would also make sense to increase construction speed for training facilities/weapon factories (imagine you have 10-15k each and have to rebuild all, you'll be rebuilding that for almost a month)

Whether it's going to be 100 per turn, I'm not sure

@ nomad: old pic of starport is building in middle and 4 landing pads. not rly airport type
and ... "so do other people"

Admin wrote:

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Kenzu wrote:
But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

Since Nomad brought it up; I will say that I was curious as to whether this statement was going to become a reality, or if kenzu was speaking hypothetically? I just do not want to derail the topic at hand.

I also must say that I would never have thought of the scenario that Nomad has put forth, it is an interesting one.

It has been stated repeatedly that construction speed will be increased (and demanded by a number of people), especially with respect to airforce buildings
It would also make sense to increase construction speed for training facilities/weapon factories (imagine you have 10-15k each and have to rebuild all, you'll be rebuilding that for almost a month)

Whether it's going to be 100 per turn, I'm not sure

@ nomad: old pic of starport is building in middle and 4 landing pads. not rly airport type
and ... "so do other people"

And I will point out again that there is a major issue here yet again.

Kong was asking for clarification of information that was posted into this topic which admin has now clarified by say the original figure of 100 per tern as posted by Kenzu is no infact set in concrete and Admin is not sure.

Now I an fine with this as it is but I am not fine with the fact that the original post made by Kenzu and which was originally quoted by Kong and then re-quoted a number of times has again been edited and changed and there is no indication that the post was changed. The only way for this to happen is for a Forum Admin to do it. I do not mind that the post was edited to correct something but I think that without showing the alteration is an abuse of power especially when it has been quoted and questioned by others. Also in that case it makes the person who posted the quote and question to look both stupid and possibly to be altering the quote for their own purposes.

@Manleva- are you refering to this...

Kenzu wrote:

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Spoiler:

@kenzu- Thank you for completely ignoring my post.

You are welcome.
I didn't reply to your post because:
1) I had nothing to say to it.
2) You didn't ask any specific question.

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Kenzu wrote:
But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

Since Nomad brought it up; I will say that I was curious as to whether this statement was going to become a reality, or if kenzu was speaking hypothetically? I just do not want to derail the topic at hand.

I also must say that I would never have thought of the scenario that Nomad has put forth, it is an interesting one.

because honestly I kinda just figured kenzu had a brain fart at that moment & posted an incomplete post. (no offense intended kenzu, as I do it all the time. the ones listing the reason as spelling. )

if you are talking about kenzu ignoring my post about the word Queue and its meaning, well I just chalk that up to kenzu being kenzu, & have another shot of Makers Mark. lol...

Manleva wrote:Now I an fine with this as it is but I am not fine with the fact that the original post made by Kenzu and which was originally quoted by Kong and then re-quoted a number of times has again been edited and changed and there is no indication that the post was changed. The only way for this to happen is for a Forum Admin to do it. I do not mind that the post was edited to correct something but I think that without showing the alteration is an abuse of power especially when it has been quoted and questioned by others. Also in that case it makes the person who posted the quote and question to look both stupid and possibly to be altering the quote for their own purposes.

which edit are you talking about?

This one? which is still there?

Kenzu wrote:But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

also
https://aderanwars.forumotion.com/t2749p15-construction-queue-improved-pictures-of-buildings-and-new-buildings#34711
You might notice the note how it says the post got changed.

Can I expect you to correct your accusations?

Also kong, tbh I had no clue what the hell you were smoking when you made that post and initially I didn't plan on replying to it either since as kenzu said, you didn't add anything to the thread other than think he used the wrong word, which he didn't, nor did you ask a question.

Manleva wrote:

Admin wrote:

kingkongfan1 wrote:

Kenzu wrote:
But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

Since Nomad brought it up; I will say that I was curious as to whether this statement was going to become a reality, or if kenzu was speaking hypothetically? I just do not want to derail the topic at hand.

I also must say that I would never have thought of the scenario that Nomad has put forth, it is an interesting one.

It has been stated repeatedly that construction speed will be increased (and demanded by a number of people), especially with respect to airforce buildings
It would also make sense to increase construction speed for training facilities/weapon factories (imagine you have 10-15k each and have to rebuild all, you'll be rebuilding that for almost a month)

Whether it's going to be 100 per turn, I'm not sure

@ nomad: old pic of starport is building in middle and 4 landing pads. not rly airport type
and ... "so do other people"

And I will point out again that there is a major issue here yet again.

Kong was asking for clarification of information that was posted into this topic which admin has now clarified by say the original figure of 100 per tern as posted by Kenzu is no infact set in concrete and Admin is not sure.

Now I an fine with this as it is but I am not fine with the fact that the original post made by Kenzu and which was originally quoted by Kong and then re-quoted a number of times has again been edited and changed and there is no indication that the post was changed. The only way for this to happen is for a Forum Admin to do it. I do not mind that the post was edited to correct something but I think that without showing the alteration is an abuse of power especially when it has been quoted and questioned by others. Also in that case it makes the person who posted the quote and question to look both stupid and possibly to be altering the quote for their own purposes.

If you scroll up to the 2nd post by Kenzu, you will see a little text at the bottom which says:
"Last edited by Kenzu on Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:55 pm; edited 1 time in total"

I am sure you can see that too!

If a post is edited before someone else posts in the same thread, then there will be no little text saying that this post was edited.
However, if someone edits his post, after someone else replied in the same thread, then there will be the little text saying that the post was edited.
If you think that a post was edited, and there is not little text indicating it, then it could be edited ONLY when no one posted afterwards. It's the same for everyone (except admin)

Manleva, are you referring to the 1st post by Kenzu on the 2nd page of this thread?
If yes, then I can assure you that it has not been edited after someone posted in this thread.

Admin wrote:
Also kong, tbh I had no clue what the hell you were smoking when you made that post and initially I didn't plan on replying to it either since as kenzu said, you didn't add anything to the thread other than think he used the wrong word, which he didn't, nor did you ask a question.

actually I wasn't drinking or smoking anything that day, is it really so hard to understand that I truly did not know the word or its meaning? I honestly thought that when I said this,...

kingkongfan1 wrote:
having said the above I am not just going to assume that when all the respondents in this thread say "queue" they actually mean "queque" because I am unfamiliar with both, & it could be feasible that they are in fact two different words with two seperate meanings. I will wait & let kenzu clear this up as he is the originator of this thread...

& this

kingkongfan1 wrote:I have tried numerous times to make it understood that I (at least) do not have the same "background, schooling, training, etc. in computers that others here do, what others take for granted is unknown to me. so please forgive my ignorance.

that I made it clear that I had no understanding of this word & that kenzu would explain. I mean seriously how can anyone be expected to carry on a discussion when that person, (me) doesn't fully understand what is being discussed? apparently you, (admin martin) did realize what I said because you took the time to explain things to me, (& I really appreciate it.). It was solely my ignorance of that particular word that caused the whole post, I apologize for having disrupted the thread, I hope this explains things for you, as for me I am finished with this, as it is irrelevant to the main topic of this thread...

Admin wrote: you didn't add anything to the thread other than think he used the wrong word, which he didn't, nor did you ask a question.

So what is the correct word and spelling?

Kenzu wrote:...there will be a new feature: A construction queue.

It will allow players to order the construction of multiple buildings. Once ordered, buildings will construct in the order you have set....

I see no room for interpretation on what was being talked about, sorry.
Whether queue would be a real word or one we made up to name a feature, either way you had an explanation one line below on what it would be doing.

Nomad wrote:

Admin wrote: you didn't add anything to the thread other than think he used the wrong word, which he didn't, nor did you ask a question.

So what is the correct word and spelling?

queue

A line of people or other objects

Admin wrote:

Manleva wrote:Now I an fine with this as it is but I am not fine with the fact that the original post made by Kenzu and which was originally quoted by Kong and then re-quoted a number of times has again been edited and changed and there is no indication that the post was changed. The only way for this to happen is for a Forum Admin to do it. I do not mind that the post was edited to correct something but I think that without showing the alteration is an abuse of power especially when it has been quoted and questioned by others. Also in that case it makes the person who posted the quote and question to look both stupid and possibly to be altering the quote for their own purposes.

which edit are you talking about?

This one? which is still there?

Kenzu wrote:But the construction speed will be increased to 100 per turn.

also
https://aderanwars.forumotion.com/t2749p15-construction-queue-improved-pictures-of-buildings-and-new-buildings#34711
You might notice the note how it says the post got changed.

Can I expect you to correct your accusations?

Also kong, tbh I had no clue what the hell you were smoking when you made that post and initially I didn't plan on replying to it either since as kenzu said, you didn't add anything to the thread other than think he used the wrong word, which he didn't, nor did you ask a question.

Yes it was the construction speed quote that I was referring to and I will admit to being wrong with my accusations as i have spent some time going back over the thread and have found the actual post. All I can say is that I missed that actual comment (even though I spent quite some time looking for it) but had found one very similar earlier in the thread on the first page.

We all make mistakes and I am quite happy to admit that I did this time.

I will also add that this was not an attack on Kenzu personally. Rather it was more that we all need to consider what and how we post things and if we make corrections we need to do so in a manner that makes it easy to see and find. I think we all make it hard for ourselves at times with the way we quote and requote posts and while we may understand it when we do it, it can make it hard for others to follow.

Good some of us can admit mistakes, to bad all of us can't.

I made a mistake roughly 3.5 years ago...

Manleva wrote:I will also add that this was not an attack on Kenzu personally.

No, there was a very specific reason why I urged you to look at your post again, otherwise certain people would come whining "forum admin abusing his powers!!!111"

@nomad, ty for that very useful comment, bickering is A1 useful

Admin wrote:

Manleva wrote:I will also add that this was not an attack on Kenzu personally.

No, there was a very specific reason why I urged you to look at your post again, otherwise certain people would come whining "forum admin abusing his powers!!!111"

@nomad, ty for that very useful comment, bickering is A1 useful

I think it was useful. Admitting you make a mistake is a sign of maturity. Some people have it and others do not. And by your own reasoning your bickering same as I with the above comment. Maybe people wouldn't feel like they do if when a mistake was made and apology accompanied it, but that's a one sided issue it appears.

Now, if your done ignoring my public and private request, (ignoring defined as not recieveing any kind or response, even if there was action taken there is no way I could ever know. I could have atleast respected a reply I disagreed with, no reply at all shows a complete lack of respect, like I'm not even worth a reply) Lets please stop this "bickering" and get back to the topic at hand.