The Crusade of Vengeance

Sara did mass me what Ian said is accurate...

But isn't VIS part of TOC anyway? - I would expect no less from them than to participate along with the other two clans.

Maybe not all VIS players, but the leader for sure...

The following Imperium members have been massed:

stars
koldfate
Jadefire
retro22
loregram
gear

Unimatrix has been also massed, but merely from 6.5 billion defense to 3 billion.

Did any of you make the calculations for the kill/loss ratio? I just made mine and it's NICE

Yes, and our calculations are nice too. They got massed and lost considerably more than us.

There have been also some revegeful attacks back at us but only with limited success. It was more a waste of turns on us than anything.

The attacks made by curumo and his strike team previously were pretty good though, unlike the attacks of others recently.

Unfortunately massing had to be stopped for a while since 11 of 28 TIE are currently on protection, including some good targets. I expect TIE will mass as soon as they get ready and cancel their protection.
Expecting you guys.

So am I a good target or not? :p

Or the name Beldar is too alluring for incoming hits...

2nd war, 2nd time getting massed...

Victim of popularity I think :p

Beldar wrote:So am I a good target or not? :p

Or the name Beldar is too alluring for incoming hits...

2nd war, 2nd time getting massed...

Victim of popularity I think :p

I'd say middle ground. Not too hard, but also not too easy.

PS: now 12 TIE on protection

Kenzu wrote:Yes, and our calculations are nice too. They got massed and lost considerably more than us.

There have been also some revegeful attacks back at us but only with limited success. It was more a waste of turns on us than anything.

The attacks made by curumo and his strike team previously were pretty good though, unlike the attacks of others recently.

Unfortunately massing had to be stopped for a while since 11 of 28 TIE are currently on protection, including some good targets. I expect TIE will mass as soon as they get ready and cancel their protection.
Expecting you guys.

I m afraid I m gonna have to take issue with the bit in bold, namely here's the latest losses report based on TIE's alliance war-experience:

ian wrote:Attack Soldiers Killed (80) 22,346,620 + 1,991,602
Attack Mercs Killed (60) 93,891 + 12,652
Defense Soldiers Killed (200) 25,780,623 + 940,924
Defense Mercs Killed (150) 175,030 + 37
Spies Killed (60) 15,283,293 + 1,734,122
Assassins Killed (60) 19,445,257 + 936,308
Workers Killed (50) 989,925 + 591,024
Miners Killed (50) 11,304,100 + 1,939,019
Fighters Destroyed (-) 0
Fighter Value Destroyed (-) 0
Space Stations Destroyed (-) 0
Weapons Destroyed (0.0002) 15,685,074,391,500 + 2,409,821,543,000
Untrained Soldiers Stolen (-) 158,129,008
Kuwal Stolen (-) 27,263,090,072,646 + 178,875,906,645
Attack Turns Used (1) 2,352,811
Supply Turns Used (10) 702,976

Total Enemy Losses Since Last Update:

Total Enemy UU Killed: 8,145,688
Total Kuwal Training Costs Destroyed: 560,048,250,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Destroyed: 2,409,821,543,000

Total Kuwal Value Destroyed*: 4,897,344,211,229

*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value)

Total Enemy Losses Since Last Update:

Attack Soldiers Killed (80) 23,283,597 + 936,977
Attack Mercs Killed (60) 96,633 + 2,742
Defense Soldiers Killed (200) 26,671,624 + 891,001
Defense Mercs Killed (150) 175,039 + 9
Spies Killed (60) 15,525,964 + 242,671
Assassins Killed (60) 20,170,476 + 725,219
Workers Killed (50) 1,065,067 + 75,142
Miners Killed (50) 12,112,749 + 808,649
Fighters Destroyed (-) 0
Fighter Value Destroyed (-) 0
Space Stations Destroyed (-) 0
Weapons Destroyed (0.0002) 16,924,414,929,500 + 1,239,340,538,000
Untrained Soldiers Stolen (-) 158,481,209
Kuwal Stolen (-) 27,416,487,733,348 + 153,397,660,702

Total Enemy UU Killed: 3,679,659
Total Kuwal Training Costs Destroyed: 317,751,750,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Destroyed: 1,239,340,538,000

Total Kuwal Value Destroyed*: 2,568,998,513,000
*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value)

ian wrote:Total Imperium losses:

Attack Soldiers Lost 33,815,287 + 1,286,672
Attack Mercs Lost 153,149 + 654
Defense Soldiers Lost 11,847,065 + 1,471,959
Defense Mercs Lost 142,888 + 500
Spies Lost 11,903,768 + 541,001
Assassins Lost 17,566,063 + 1,137,482
Workers Lost 3,671,059 + 3,083
Miners Lost 5,832,574
Fighters Lost 0
Fighter Value Lost 0
Space Stations Lost 0
Weapons Lost 16,537,076,510,900 + 2,436,580,550,000
Untrained Soldiers Lost 5,191,276
Kuwal Lost 11,835,278,303,812 + 119,102,314,441

Total Imperial Losses since last update:

Total UU Lost: 3,900,350
Total Kuwal Training Costs Lost: 489,326,385,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Lost:2,436,580,550,000

Total Kuwal Value Lost*: 3,998,503,185,000

*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value)

Attack Soldiers Lost 34,628,733 + 813,446
Attack Mercs Lost 153,521 + 372
Defense Soldiers Lost 12,751,273 + 904,208
Defense Mercs Lost 142,993 + 105
Spies Lost 12,666,720 + 762,952
Assassins Lost 18,039,885 + 438,822
Workers Lost 3,671,059
Miners Lost 5,832,574
Fighters Lost 0
Fighter Value Lost 0
Space Stations Lost 0
Weapons Lost 17,660,608,074,900 + 1,123,531,564,000
Untrained Soldiers Lost 5,214,168
Kuwal Lost 11,944,169,545,283 + 108,891,241,471
Attack Turns Used on you 258,343
Supply Turns Used on you 195,846

Total Imperial Losses since last update:

Total UU Lost: 2,919,428
Total Kuwal Training Costs Lost: 311,727,930,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Lost: 1,123,531,564,000

Total Kuwal Value Lost*: 2,238,102,194,000

*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value)

IfThe Imperium is meeting with "limited success", despite killing close to 25% more troops than T.O.C... then based on Kenzu's logic T.O.C is a abysmal failure.... even more so when they have such a ridiculously huge numerical advantage

2nd time in this war i lose my defense

oh well, this time i did much much better damage than last time hehehe

I am quite happy with my performance...


Now back to rebuilding it

Beldar wrote:2nd time in this war i lose my defense

oh well, this time i did much much better damage than last time hehehe

I am quite happy with my performance...


Now back to rebuilding it

LOL, awesome... reminds me of "Verdun"... except opposite to the attackers bleeding the defenders dry

how is this relevant at all?

Again you take a single sentence out of the context. That sentence you wrote refers only to the attacks by those we massed. If you read a sentence more, you would see I said: "The attacks made by curumo and his strike team previously were pretty good though, unlike the attacks of others recently."

killing the miners and workers makes your reports look very successful. Would you mind elaborating where the dead miners and workers come from?

Kenzu wrote:how is this relevant at all?

Again you take a single sentence out of the context. That sentence you wrote refers only to the attacks by those we massed. If you read a sentence more, you would see I said: "The attacks made by curumo and his strike team previously were pretty good though, unlike the attacks of others recently."

killing the miners and workers makes your reports look very successful. Would you mind elaborating where the dead miners and workers come from?

They come from: Vaako, boblally, Ardhitama9025, Spiracy2con, 3cats4me.... there is another 2 targets which i won't name just yet.


Those who participated in the miner/worker massacres: Jadefire, Viper, Reaper, Stars, Vex, Loregram, Steveanaya, J1nx, Mystake, superkingtsob & pxn so far.

As for how are war losses relevant to a war at all? Well... erm, you see... I might be stretching logic here a little bit, and probably jumping to a fairly large amount of wild conclusions, but I kinda figured war losses might have some-sort of value/ relevance/ link to the actual TIE vs. TOC War II. I know.. I m probably jumping to the wrong conclusion and its of no relevance at all

Don't worry Kenzu... plenty more ST spare for all of World Republic's bloated assassin & spy numbers, not to mention your huge poorly teched defences etc... just ripe for the taking for our higher strike players.

I hope you enjoy rank 1 army size while it lasts... because its gonna be very short lived

ian wrote:I hope you enjoy rank 1 army size while it lasts... because its gonna be very short lived Very Happy

Woohooo. Make room for The Marauders xD lol

You like drifting off topic, don't you? We talked about my post and not war in general.

Kenzu wrote:You like drifting off topic, don't you? We talked about my post and not war in general.

I didn't talk about war in general... I talked about *this* war.

Of course.. if you want to talk about war in general I can do that. Whats your feelings about the Naploeanic Wars?

Losses of The Crusade of Vengeance:

Those in brackets = total losses throughout the conflict.

Day 1:

Imperium Losses:

Attack Soldiers: 2,551,199
Attack Mercs: 7,353
Defense Soldiers: 9,248
Defense Mercs: 0
Spies: 502,000
Assassins:1,825,312
Workers: 0
Miners: 0
Weapons: 1,695,503,444,000

Total UU: 4,887,759

T.O.C Losses:

Attack Soldiers: 16,834
Attack Mercs: 0
Defense Soldiers: 1,524,214
Defense Mercs: 9
Spies: 3,173,807
Assassins: 3,769,442
Workers: 132,451
Miners: 836,722
Weapons: 1,560,752,691,000

Total UU: 9,453,470

Day 2:

Imperium Losses:

Attack Soldiers: 1,286,672 (3,837,871)
Attack Mercs: 654 (8,007)
Defense Soldiers: 1,481,207 (1,490,455)
Defense Mercs: 500 (500)
Spies: 541,001 (1,043,001)
Assassins: 1,137,482 (2,962,794)
Workers: 3083 (3,083)
Miners: 0
Weapons: 2,436,580,550,000 (4,132,083,994,000)

Total UU: 4,449,445 (9,337,204)

T.O.C Losses:

Attack Soldiers: 1,991,602 (2,008,436)
Attack Mercs: 12,652 (12,652)
Defense Soldiers: 940,924 (2,465,138)
Defense Mercs: 37 (46)
Spies: 1,734,122 (4,907,929)
Assassins: 936,308 (4,705,750)
Workers: 591,024 (723,475)
Miners: 1,939,019 (2,775,741)
Weapons: 2,409,821,543,000 (3,970,574,234,000)

Total UU : 8,132,999 (17,586,469)

Day 3:

Imperium Losses:

Attack Soldiers: 813,446 (4,651,317)
Attack Mercs: 372 (8,379)
Defense Soldiers: 904,208 (2,394,663)
Defense Mercs: 105 (605)
Spies: 762,952 (1,805,953)
Assassins: 438,822 (3,401,616)
Workers: 3083 (3,083)
Miners: 0
Weapons: 1,123,531,564,000 (5,255,615,558,000)

Total UU: 2,922,511 (12,259,715)

T.O.C Losses:

Attack Soldiers: 936,977 (2,945,413)
Attack Mercs: 2,742 (15,394)
Defense Soldiers: 891,001 (3,356,139)
Defense Mercs: 9 (55)
Spies: 242,671 (5,150,600)
Assassins: 725,219 (5,514,399)
Workers: 75,142 (798,617)
Miners: 808,649 (3,584,390)
Weapons: 2,409,821,543,000 (5,209,914,772,000)

Total UU: 3,679,659 (21,266,128)

Day 4:

We are now on Day 4

when are your guys comming off protection to attack?

Kenzu wrote:when are your guys comming off protection to attack?

In about 1month. Go home, relax... and be sure to tell WR to not check their accounts. Nothing for you all to worry about.

The Imperium's made entirely of peace loving hippies

Looks like they have already done most of the attacking already

Kingofshinobis1 wrote:Looks like they have already done most of the attacking already

We haven't even got started on World Republic/VIS yet .. merely a couple of warm-up hits. Mainly just mopping Mujengan up at the moment, then its party time with WR's vast army... of well, mainly not that active poorly-teched stat builders/ noobs lol. Sure they got some good players... but for every good player, they ve got about 3 bad players......

.......Such a waste ...... for WR , such a prize worth having for T.I.E's war-records

we shall meet u at waterloo, u great Napoleon ! Ur dreams proportional to ur stature

TOC massed:

curumo
beldar
eqnx
pxn
martineagle
stevenaya
shadowrha
stars
koldfate
Jadefire
retro22
loregram
gear
Unimatrix

NEW TIE members mased:
okdeamif (including his 6.7 billion strike)
dursum
beldar (again)

@ian
TIE has also many low tech players. 150% tech might be weak, but it still means that you will lose 3 soldiers for each 4 you kill. And with TIE's low raw UP of 805.938, which means a total UP of roughly 1.000.000 you will never be able to defeat us. It is our choice to neglect Technology, and it was a good choice. By focusing on our economies we managed not only to catch up TIE, which was 3 times more powerful and had 3 times stronger economy, we managed to outgrow TIE economy. Had we focused on Technology as much as you, our losses would be same, but our economy would still be 3 times weaker. I rather see WR have 20% more losses than TIE and produce 40% more resources, than the other way round. Each one soldier that Imperium loses is a step towards victory of coalition forces.

Wanna hear the losses on my massing for both sides Kenzu?

yeah, why not

It's a too long list of all the attacks and attempts on me so I'll just post the kuwal worth, I can send you details though but the kuwal worth is this:

Incoming attack damages in kuwal worth:
My losses: 0,55 T
TOC losses: 0,73 T

So I wouldn't exactly call this a bad ratio, would you?