Re: The Crusade of Vengeance

by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:30 pm

ian wrote:Currently:

Attack Soldiers Killed (80) 20,355,018 + 16,834
Attack Mercs Killed (60) 81,239
Defense Soldiers Killed (200) 24,839,699 + 1,524,214
Defense Mercs Killed (150) 174,993 + 9
Spies Killed (60) 13,548,171 + 3,173,807
Assassins Killed (60) 18,508,949 + 3,769,442
Workers Killed (50) 398,901 + 132,451
Miners Killed (50) 9,365,081 + 836,722
Fighters Destroyed (-) 0
Fighter Value Destroyed (-) 0
Space Stations Destroyed (-) 0
Weapons Destroyed (0.0002) 13,275,252,848,500 + 1,560,752,691,000
Untrained Soldiers Stolen (-) 157,851,437 + 463,623
Kuwal Stolen (-) 27,084,214,166,001 + 65,785,065,229
Attack Turns Used (1) 2,347,051 + 5,211
Supply Turns Used (10) 695,177 + 13,799

Total Enemy Losses in the opening phase of the war:

Total Enemy UU Killed: 9,917,102
Total Kuwal Training Costs Destroyed: 543,603,405,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Destroyed: 1,560,752,691,000

Total Kuwal Value Destroyed*: 4,897,344,211,229

*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value & Kuwal stolen)

Attack Soldiers Killed (80) 22,346,620 + 1,991,602
Attack Mercs Killed (60) 93,891 + 12,652
Defense Soldiers Killed (200) 25,780,623 + 940,924
Defense Mercs Killed (150) 175,030 + 37
Spies Killed (60) 15,283,293 + 1,734,122
Assassins Killed (60) 19,445,257 + 936,308
Workers Killed (50) 989,925 + 591,024
Miners Killed (50) 11,304,100 + 1,939,019
Fighters Destroyed (-) 0
Fighter Value Destroyed (-) 0
Space Stations Destroyed (-) 0
Weapons Destroyed (0.0002) 15,685,074,391,500 + 2,409,821,543,000
Untrained Soldiers Stolen (-) 158,129,008
Kuwal Stolen (-) 27,263,090,072,646 + 178,875,906,645
Attack Turns Used (1) 2,352,811
Supply Turns Used (10) 702,976

Total Enemy Losses Since Last Update:

Total Enemy UU Killed: 8,145,688
Total Kuwal Training Costs Destroyed: 560,048,250,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Destroyed: 2,409,821,543,000

Total Kuwal Value Destroyed*: 4,897,344,211,229

*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value)

by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:41 pm

ian wrote:The Imperium Losses:

Currently:

Attack Soldiers Lost 32,528,615 + 2,551,199
Attack Mercs Lost 152,495 + 7,353
Defense Soldiers Lost 10,375,106 + 9,248
Defense Mercs Lost 142,388
Spies Lost 11,362,767 + 502,000
Assassins Lost 16,428,581 + 1,825,312
Workers Lost 3,667,876
Miners Lost 5,832,574
Fighters Lost 0
Fighter Value Lost 0
Space Stations Lost 0
Weapons Lost 14,100,495,960,900 + 1,695,503,444,000
Untrained Soldiers Lost 5,190,469
Kuwal Lost 11,716,175,989,371 + 5,957,648,588
Attack Turns Used on you 252,654 + 36
Supply Turns Used on you 182,846 + 12

Total Imperial Losses in the opening phase of the war:

Total UU Lost: 4,895,112
Total Kuwal Training Costs Lost: 488,796,090,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Lost:1,695,503,444,000

Total Kuwal Value Lost*: 3,536,412,982,588

*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value & Kuwal stolen)

Attack Soldiers Lost 33,815,287 + 1,286,672
Attack Mercs Lost 153,149 + 654
Defense Soldiers Lost 11,847,065 + 1,471,959
Defense Mercs Lost 142,888 + 500
Spies Lost 11,903,768 + 541,001
Assassins Lost 17,566,063 + 1,137,482
Workers Lost 3,671,059 + 3,083
Miners Lost 5,832,574
Fighters Lost 0
Fighter Value Lost 0
Space Stations Lost 0
Weapons Lost 16,537,076,510,900 + 2,436,580,550,000
Untrained Soldiers Lost 5,191,276
Kuwal Lost 11,835,278,303,812 + 119,102,314,441

Total Imperial Losses since last update:

Total UU Lost: 3,900,350
Total Kuwal Training Costs Lost: 489,326,385,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Lost:2,436,580,550,000

Total Kuwal Value Lost*: 3,998,503,185,000

*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value)
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by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:06 pm

The Order of Chaos Losses since the war began:

Attack Soldiers: 2,008,436
Attack Mercs: 12,652
Defence Soldiers: 2,465,138
Defence Mercs: 46
Spies Killed: 4,907,929
Assassins Killed: 4,705,750
Workers Killed: 723,475
Miners Killed: 2,775,741
Weapons Destroyed: 3,970,574,234,000

Total UU Lost: 17,599,167
Total Kuwal Training Costs Lost: 1,103,651,655,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Lost:3,970,574,234,000

Total Kuwal Value Lost*: 9,913,996,814,000
*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value)

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The Imperium Losses Since the war began:

Attack Soliders: 3,837,871
Attack Mercs: 8,007
Defence Soldiers: 1,481,207
Defence Mercs: 0
Spies Lost: 1,043,001
Assassins Lost: 2,962,794
Workers lost: 0
Miners Lost: 0
Weapons Lost: 4,132,083,994,000

Total UU Lost: 9,332,880
Total Kuwal Training Costs Lost: 978,122,475,000
Total Kuwal Value of Weapons Lost:7,646,773,469,000

Total Kuwal Value Lost*: 3,998,503,185,000
*(including 275k UU Value, training costs, weapon value)

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@ World Republic.

Thank you for bringing in some more farms to fuel The Imperium's war-effort. You can expect a redirection of our effort shortly in order to "cultivate" the crop.

Sending in lower tech players against The Imperium didn't work last time when it comes to us running out of resources or ST to keep knocking T.O.C accounts down.... it definitely won't work this time considering the resources used against Mujengen was what we had built... and not our actual war-reserve that was held back incase you guys did decide to join Wink

by Beldar Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:07 pm

2nd time i get massed in 2 wars :p

oh, maybe it is the start of a long glorious battle streak...

btw before i got massed i managed to use a few nice invasion missions (have not done it before, it was kinda fun). Very Happy

I guess i should expect more love when i am out of Protection huh? :p
My guys are eager for this 2nd round ---------

by Steveanaya Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:41 pm

pxn wrote:they actually did a fairly proper massing of me.. def pretty much gone, and assassins.. left quite a few spies and most of the small strike i had left though

and how do you figure your name is the leftmost one? you've changed your name to "massed" or "beer" ?

Isn't it like this?:
"we massed...
Steveanaya...
Beer..."

I'm pretty sure my name is lined up(or close to lined up) to the left

Oh yeah and we gon' kill you guys > Very Happy

by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:53 pm

ghyogod wrote:The Crusade of Vengeance - Chapter 2

The night came silent in a galaxy filled with corpses. King Ian resting on his throne, his generals raising their glasses of vine filled with joy and still thursty for blood.
King Ian raised his sceptrum in aclamations. their fearce enemys were knealing in a bloodbath.
"It is I, King Ian, servant of Athens, ruller of The Imperium. writer of huge almost unread novels,bringer of apocalypse in this galaxy for all who opose my good sense and leadership. my enemys bowed frightened at my feet, i tell u. i proclame myself ruller of the galaxy, light bringer, and uuultimate general. i proclame death to all of those servants of khorne who were left to tell the tale of my accomplishment. i wish to see Smog the Chaos Demon put in chains", his voice struck the room, fiercefull.
So another day passed and the trompets were singing joy in all the corners of the galaxy. Athens smiled to them once again.
Enlightened they went in another strike against the kneeled servants of Smog. they one again raised their glasses.

The Imperium fiercefull soldiers awaited the Demons for two days with their shields lifted at the mercy of their powerfull godess. only the smell of smogs dead men came to visit. Silence was rising, Ian's men stearing into the empty black sky above them.

In the third day, King Ian, was resting on his belly asleep, in contempt.
Little did he knew that in the dark corners of the Galaxy Demons gathered under the Chaos banner. Smog invoked hiss trustworthy ally, Kenzu - servant of the Chaos God Tzeentch – to interviene.
The sky grew dark in that morning. Billions of soldiers came bringing terror and Chaos. The fields into tears, red tears of vengeance. The good soldiers of the imperium ran in fear, swearing at their goddess, spitting asheamed of the grounds of Athens. Their souls ripped apart. King Ian slept in his castle unaware of his men, unaware of the darkness that came upon his realm.
His defences obliterated from the face of The imperium. Only the king and a few men remained to se the absence of faith.
Athens smiled again. She obviously had a great nap.
It was truly a bloody morning in the imperium this one.

►dedicated to Ian, King of The Imperium, Honest servant of the war godess Athens, writer of long, long but yet interesting and unfinished Novels ◄

Lol, not a bad effort, though I would say its kinda inaccurate given a lot more than just a "few" men are still alive and able to fight back, also I m not a king but merely a loyal servant of the Emperor Wink

The Crusade of Vengeance - Chapter 2 Continued

Even as the brave soldiers of The Imperium drove the forces of Smog, Demon Prince of Khorne, back and hunted them down, Kenzu, servant of the Chaos God Tzeentch, issued forth from the Eye of Terror at the head of a great host hell bent on assaulting The realms of the Imperium and wiping it out.....

..... but their intervention was expected. Even as the fresh wave of Chaos forces fell on numerous Imperium Realms and overran the brave but heavily outnumbered defenders, stockpiles of resources & fresh recruits lay hidden - untouched and unable to be harmed by the foul forces of Chaos. For while powerful as The Imperium's assault on the Mujengen forces of Chaos was, it was merely performed with the existing standing army of The Imperium - reserves and surpluses were left untouched, just incase another Chaos Crusade should issue forth from the Eye of Terror and attempt to push The Imperium back from the Cadian Gate all the way back to Terra herself.

Thus, even as the Chaos horde celebrated their victory, new armies of the Imperium were drawn up, armed and made ready for battle - even in the face of just under 4 to 1 odds.... for if there was one advantage The Imperium has, it was that the supreme fool Kenzu, servant of the Chaos God Tzeentch, led a vast host of poorly equipped and prepared followers who would be little more than cannon fodder, trying to drown The Imperium's warmachine in their own chaotic blood, by swamping it with sheer numbers alone.

Only one thing is certain: The realms, planets, rivers & fields of Aderan Wars will run red with the blood of the forces of Chaos and those of The Imperium who fell driving them back into the hellish Warp.

Great may the odds be... but The Imperium, as always, shall rise to the challenge and drive the numerically superior but physically inferior enemy's back.

Remember the fallen. Purge the faithless. Burn the heretic.

Long Live The Imperium!!! Long Live the Great Crusade.... and let World Republic burn in the fires of hell Twisted Evil

by Kenzu Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:00 pm

btw, the losses you show for TOC are incorrect, because you count all units that TIE destroyed, including those of mass raided accounts.

I checked an inactive account which had 5 billion defense and 1 million UU on the 19th of february. Now this account has 0 defense.
=>a mass raid on such account brings only a small profit compared to the effort made, but it boosts war exp considerably, especially because the techs of inactives arent as high as the mass raiders techs.

Obviously damage Imperium does against non-TOC members doesn't count towards TOC losses. Imperium war experience looks much better than it actually is.

by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:04 pm

Kenzu wrote:btw, the losses you show for TOC are incorrect, because you count all units that TIE destroyed, including those of mass raided accounts.

I checked an inactive account which had 5 billion defense and 1 million UU on the 19th of february. Now this account has 0 defense.
=>a mass raid on such account brings only a small profit compared to the effort made, but it boosts war exp considerably, especially because the techs of inactives arent as high as the mass raiders techs.

Obviously damage Imperium does against non-TOC members doesn't count towards TOC losses. Imperium war experience looks much better than it actually is.

*coughs*

The Imperium has not mass raided anyone since this conflict began. ALL of our offensive missions have been performed against T.O.C (or rather, Mujengen so far).

by Kingofshinobis1 Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:11 pm

Kenzu wrote:btw, the losses you show for TOC are incorrect, because you count all units that TIE destroyed, including those of mass raided accounts.

I checked an inactive account which had 5 billion defense and 1 million UU on the 19th of february. Now this account has 0 defense.
=>a mass raid on such account brings only a small profit compared to the effort made, but it boosts war exp considerably, especially because the techs of inactives arent as high as the mass raiders techs.

Obviously damage Imperium does against non-TOC members doesn't count towards TOC losses. Imperium war experience looks much better than it actually is.

[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 9176;1116 500,000 details
[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 34102;4148 1,478,938 details
[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 36084;4389 1,556,777 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 38171;4643 1,638,713 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 40367;4910 1,724,962 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 42678;5192 1,815,750 details

you must be talking about this guy lol

yeah that was me Razz

so no imperium war records there

by kingkongfan1 Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:15 pm

Spoiler:

I think I finally understand why kenzu insists upon holding onto all those 0'd inactive accts. sweet... Very Happy

by Kenzu Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:17 pm

Kingofshinobis1 wrote:
Kenzu wrote:btw, the losses you show for TOC are incorrect, because you count all units that TIE destroyed, including those of mass raided accounts.

I checked an inactive account which had 5 billion defense and 1 million UU on the 19th of february. Now this account has 0 defense.
=>a mass raid on such account brings only a small profit compared to the effort made, but it boosts war exp considerably, especially because the techs of inactives arent as high as the mass raiders techs.

Obviously damage Imperium does against non-TOC members doesn't count towards TOC losses. Imperium war experience looks much better than it actually is.

[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 9176;1116 500,000 details
[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 34102;4148 1,478,938 details
[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 36084;4389 1,556,777 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 38171;4643 1,638,713 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 40367;4910 1,724,962 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 42678;5192 1,815,750 details

you must be talking about this guy lol

yeah that was me so no imperium war records there

Thats was an example. It doesnt have to be this one. In any case, it's easy to "improve the appearance" of war exp.

by Kingofshinobis1 Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:22 pm

Not really. You realize raiding uu does not add to the war exp? And also, when massing a inactive all it does is hurt the attackers war exp. i lost 500k spies to gain 1mil uu but the raided uu does not count to my war exp. only the sabbed weapons do and the men i killed during the raids. so technically mass/raiding hurts your war exp.

idk about you but taking out 200k low lvl weaps and a few thousand soldiers does not equal 500k spies being lost and does not improve the appearance at all.

by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:44 pm

Kenzu wrote:
Kingofshinobis1 wrote:
Kenzu wrote:btw, the losses you show for TOC are incorrect, because you count all units that TIE destroyed, including those of mass raided accounts.

I checked an inactive account which had 5 billion defense and 1 million UU on the 19th of february. Now this account has 0 defense.
=>a mass raid on such account brings only a small profit compared to the effort made, but it boosts war exp considerably, especially because the techs of inactives arent as high as the mass raiders techs.

Obviously damage Imperium does against non-TOC members doesn't count towards TOC losses. Imperium war experience looks much better than it actually is.

[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 9176;1116 500,000 details
[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 34102;4148 1,478,938 details
[19 Feb] 18:58 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 36084;4389 1,556,777 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 38171;4643 1,638,713 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 40367;4910 1,724,962 details
[19 Feb] 18:57 qwerty Sabotage Destroyed: 42678;5192 1,815,750 details

you must be talking about this guy lol

yeah that was me so no imperium war records there

Thats was an example. It doesnt have to be this one. In any case, it's easy to "improve the appearance" of war exp.

Yes Kenzu it is probably reasonably easy to improve the appearance of war experience... but lets see:

Sabbing = Ridiculously expensive ST wise
Assault = Ridiculously expensive attack soldier/weapons wise
Assassinations = Rediculously expensive ST wise

Now... if you happen to be leading a powerful alliance into battle with another powerful alliance... which happens to be part of a powerful empire with a massive amount of members, outnumbering you, which you think there's at least a 50/50 chance of those other members joining in against you, are you:

A.) Going to waste resources on inactives to make your record look good.
b.) Going to waste ST on inactives... to make your record look good.
c.) Going to use those resources on the actual enemy... to make your record look good and his look bad.

Now... give The Imperium credit, we are many things... but we aren't exactly idiots or incompetent when it comes to fighting wars... as witnessed by your apparently having to throw 3+ (actually closer to 4 - 3.7) times the amount of players against us to try and make the fight "fair".

We re not suicidal enough to waste our ST & resources on pointless targets when got tons of enemy targets to kill.

The records are accurate.

by Kenzu Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:09 pm

It's funny how you count 17 of our members on vacation towards the people fighting you.

by kingkongfan1 Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:19 pm

Kenzu wrote:It's funny how you count 17 of our members on vacation towards the people fighting you.

wait, I am curious, I count only 11 vacated accts,(most of them vacated for 300 days or more) & 4 0 defense inactive accts, where are the others at? for they are not showing...

by Kenzu Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:21 pm

In Mujengan

by kingkongfan1 Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:27 pm

Kenzu wrote:In Mujengan

oh, ok, so you were not counting the 0 defense inactive members of ToC, only the vacated members... cool thanks...

by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:17 pm

Kenzu wrote:It's funny how you count 17 of our members on vacation towards the people fighting you.

Hey... its you who brought a empire to a alliance vs. alliance war. Its a bit like bringing a tank to a gun fight. Its cheating Mad

And for the record: 25+ 21 + 59 = 105 - 17 = 88.

88/25 = 3.52 players to 1 TIE player.

My statement stands, namely: "your apparently having to throw 3+ (actually closer to 4 - 3.7) times the amount of players against us to try and make the fight "fair". Only thing which changes is that 3.7 drops to 3.52... because before I d forgotten about VIS (when in reality they are at war with us due to Sara's participation in the massings).

by seaborgium Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:11 pm

starts looking for some easy hits.

by damgood Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:41 pm

seaborgium wrote:starts looking for some easy hits.

by seaborgium Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:22 pm

hmm Nice one TOC. I message an old friend to make sure he knew about the war and here is his answer

"Message text:

hi mate!
VIS?
i thaught it is a paceful alliance
i'm not participating in no war against anybody"

by curumo Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:28 pm

We ain't about to attack VIS - WR and Muj are our only concern. Nobody else disrespected and attacked us, so why would we hit them?

by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:42 pm

curumo wrote:We ain't about to attack VIS - WR and Muj are our only concern. Nobody else disrespected and attacked us, so why would we hit them?

Cos VIS hit us. I seem to recall seeing Sara in the logs lol

by curumo Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:45 pm

Oh... was she? Ok then it's open season on VIS as well... Thanks for clarifying boss Wink

by ian Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:50 pm

curumo wrote:Oh... was she? Ok then it's open season on VIS as well... Thanks for clarifying boss

Check your AW inbox Wink

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