Airforce battle system

but you never noticed you were losing of all types of weapons?

Admin wrote:but you never noticed you were losing of all types of weapons?

To be completely honest, I never cared.

When in battle I look at 2 things. UU losses on both sides, and the defensive power of my opponent. Nothing else matters. I do not set down after a battle and dissect every aspect of every log checking it for correctness. I assume you do your job and its correct. As stated before. I am OCD on round numbers. If I have 1.5 mill men I either have 1.5 of the best weapons, or 1 mill best and .5 mill next best. You will NEVER see my account with 23453 of 1 weapon and 234 of another and with 1234 of another weapon without trained UU to use it. How ever many men I have is how many weapons I have. I never have more then 2 types of weapons, generally only 1 except when converting over. So yes I never would have noticed this "truth" that you knew and I did not.

yh but when you had i.e. 1 mil best weapons and .5 mil next best, made a hit, then you would have had to get some of both to get back to past numbers again

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Admin wrote:yh but when you had i.e. 1 mil best weapons and .5 mil next best, made a hit, then you would have had to get some of both to get back to past numbers again

Ummm,,,,,,, 1.5 mill men,,,1.5 mill weapons = 1 man and 1 weapon = that makes sense

1.5 mill men 15 mill best weapons,,,,,1 mill lowest weapons = there are Far more good weapons then bad, why would a solider lay down a best weapon to pick up a knife? if you had an equal number of men to weapons, even if you had 10 different types of weapons why would you question losses of all weapon classes? If I had enough tanks to arm my UU forces 10 times over, and saw losses of knives then Yes I would question that. BUT that was NEVER a situation I was ever in.

You can't see what I am saying at all? Makes no sense to you whatsoever?


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Wait a minute. Your saying if I have 1 mill men. 1 million best weapons, and 100 mill knives that in the battle report I will get counted for full strength of best weapons but will lose knives to best weapons at a rate of 10 knives for 1 best weapon? Because there is 10 times more knives then best?



anyway. I wish some others would talk more. I can learn as much or more from others conversations. I feel if I do not say something then no one will, but it may be best. I got most of it now, so guess I'll just wait for the rest to be released in test, and then to main and see how it goes from there since it seems I am doing more harm then good, and causing to much negativity.

knives never went into battle, so obviously you can't lose any of them.
but you said yourself not always do you have only one weapon level. but you always have round numbers.

logical conclusion, if ever you attack or are attacked, you'll lose from both levels and will buy it back to make them round again

Admin wrote:knives never went into battle, so obviously you can't lose any of them.
but you said yourself not always do you have only one weapon level. but you always have round numbers.

logical conclusion, if ever you attack or are attacked, you'll lose from both levels and will buy it back to make them round again

So why is it then that lower grade munitions are fired when there are enough higher grade munitions to go around? I keep getting 2 different explanations from you (it seems to me). So I'm going to re read all this in the morning and try to figure out what I am missing that makes it appear your contradicting yourself yet again and going in circles with this convo.

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Admin wrote:knives never went into battle, so obviously you can't lose any of them.
but you said yourself not always do you have only one weapon level. but you always have round numbers.

logical conclusion, if ever you attack or are attacked, you'll lose from both levels and will buy it back to make them round again

So why is it then that lower grade munitions are fired when there are enough higher grade munitions to go around? I keep getting 2 different explanations from you (it seems to me). So I'm going to re read all this in the morning and try to figure out what I am missing that makes it appear your contradicting yourself yet again and going in circles with this convo.

I am not sure where you are getting this conclusion from Nomad. Highest generation munitions are supposed to be used first so if you have enough to go around you should not be using lower grade munitions at all. The only time you will equip lower grade munitions are when you have less higher grade munitions than required to fully equip the aircraft or sams.

So we are back to confirming a bug in test?

Again, comparing it to ground forces, because as I said, it works identically:
You only send the BEST weapons with your soldiers, you still lose THE AVERAGE of ALL weapons that go into battle
If you have 5k artilleries and 5k tanks and lose 1k soldiers then you will lose 500 artilleries and 500 tanks

so keeping that in mind, the logical conclusion would be to assume that ALL units are sent on airforce missions using BEST munition available. and losing an average of all units / munition used in combat.

If I had enough high grade munitions to go around to every generation of AF unit, yet still lost lower generation munitions in battle then according to you Both Admin and Manleva we have a bug?

Right? If someone will actually clarify if this condition is a bug it would help.