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Post by Nomad Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:01 am

After just reading through the Wiki you have posted I wanted to make a couple of comments.

1. Why so many "Female" races? Shocked

2. On a more serious note, the race bonuses are way to skewed. I can only hope you realize this.

1 Personal bonus point can give a player one of the following bonuses:

* +1.50% attack power
* +1.50% defense power
* +1.75% assassin power
* +2.00% covert power
* +0.40% income
* +0.40% unit production
Daning Republic Maximum Personal bonus points to be distributed per class:
* 90% attack power
* 30% defense power
* 20% covert power
* 20% assassin power
* 20% income
* 20% unit production
Mirayan Union Maximum Personal bonus points to be distributed per class:
* 30% attack power
* 90% defense power
* 20% covert power
* 20% assassin power
* 20% income
* 20% unit production
Kyora Clan Maximum Personal bonus points to be distributed per class:
* 20% attack power
* 20% defense power
* 90% covert power
* 30% assassin power
* 20% income
* 20% unit production
Orda Movement Maximum Personal bonus points to be distributed per class:
* 20% attack power
* 20% defense power
* 30% covert power
* 90% assassin power
* 20% income
* 20% unit production
Irium Tribes Maximum Personal bonus points to be distributed per class:
* 20% attack power
* 20% defense power
* 20% covert power
* 20% assassin power
* 90% income
* 30% unit production
Tarik Federation Maximum Personal bonus points to be distributed per class:
* 20% attack power
* 20% defense power
* 20% covert power
* 20% assassin power
* 30% income
* 90% unit production
Hualu Empire Maximum Personal bonus points to be distributed per class:
* 35% attack power
* 35% defense power
* 35% covert power
* 35% assassin power
* 25% income
* 25% unit production
Salin Kingdom Maximum Personal bonus points to be distributed per class:
* 25% attack power
* 25% defense power
* 25% covert power
* 25% assassin power
* 45% income
* 45% unit production


I mean come on!?!?!?! 90% into 1 stat? Plus as has been shown time and time again, if strike and defensive bonuses are exactly the same the strike will ALWAYS win. PERIOD.
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Post by Kenzu Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:45 am

1)

My wife suggested that there should be some girls too, not only guys.

There will be 5 guys and 3 girls. Not exactly even, but I think it's also ok.

2)

What exactly do you mean by strike will win?

In a massing you mean the strike bonus one will destroy the defense bonus one easier than without any bonuses?

And why?

Daning with same tech as Miraya, where Daning spent 90% bonuses on attack and 10% on defense, and where Miraya spent 90% on defense and 10% on attack, in a war in each hit where Daning will assault Miraya, they all have same bonus on attack and defense, which means for each 1 kuwal Daning loses, Miraya will lose 1 kuwal.

Currently with defense bonus weaker than attack bonus, much less people choose the attack bonus, and we have less Daning too.
That's also because people who are much more busy with RL will chose Miraya over Daning and get as many def bonuses as possible, no matter how low these would be since they dont farm actives.

Also, keep in mind that if too many people choose attack over defense, then of course attack will be weakened.
People will be able to change their personal bonuses gradually (3 per week).
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Post by Nomad Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:38 am

1. That was more for humor, and I don't mind female warriors. Maybe you should do a male and female for each race? Also, I don't think Salin has male or female (intresting idea huh?)

2. Simple, as has been proven before. Strike is ALWAYS online during a fight, Defense is online less then 20%, maybe even less then 5%. The attacker waits till 30 seconds before turn change, trains, attacks, (since both are even both take equal damage) but since attack can and did retrain the attack will win for the rest of the battle.

Lastly you completely ignored the main point of the post. Why 90%. It is far to high. I suggest you start much lower and then you can move up, but if you start high it will piss people off when you weaken them or lower the bonuses.
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Post by Nomad Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:03 am

Nomad wrote:
Why 90%. It is far to high. I suggest you start much lower and then you can move up, but if you start high it will piss people off when you weaken them or lower the bonuses.

would someone please reply to this? even if its just a "cuz i said so" type answer. I really feel this is a bad idea.
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Post by Ne0 Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:58 pm

Nomad wrote:Maybe you should do a male and female for each race?
+1

I don't want to have to change my ingame name to a female one
(being a female race with male name will be wired, in my opinion)
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Post by Nomad Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:25 pm

Seeing your avy, this is Neo from SWG isn't it?

On topic tho, if you could get your artist to do a male and female characiture and then tie it to the gender setting it would be awesome.
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Post by Kenzu Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:56 pm

Nomad wrote:Seeing your avy, this is Neo from SWG isn't it?

On topic tho, if you could get your artist to do a male and female characiture and then tie it to the gender setting it would be awesome.

you mean male and female characters for each race?
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Post by SovietMan Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:17 pm

i think that is what he means...95% sure Razz

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Post by Nomad Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:33 am

Kenzu wrote:
Nomad wrote:Seeing your avy, this is Neo from SWG isn't it?

On topic tho, if you could get your artist to do a male and female characiture and then tie it to the gender setting it would be awesome.

you mean male and female characters for each race?

umm actually yes

make it so the display picture is tied to your gender setting, so if you are a male Haula the picture displayed by your name in the attack pages is the male picture, and if your gender is listed as female, then the picture is listed as female race

I doubt its worth the time to code, but would be a "cool" feature

That way a female doesnt have to have a picture of a male and a male doesnt have to bear the picture of a female.

Totally cosmetic
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Post by Kenzu Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:54 am

Nomad wrote:
Kenzu wrote:
Nomad wrote:Seeing your avy, this is Neo from SWG isn't it?

On topic tho, if you could get your artist to do a male and female characiture and then tie it to the gender setting it would be awesome.

you mean male and female characters for each race?

umm actually yes

make it so the display picture is tied to your gender setting, so if you are a male Haula the picture displayed by your name in the attack pages is the male picture, and if your gender is listed as female, then the picture is listed as female race

I doubt its worth the time to code, but would be a "cool" feature

That way a female doesnt have to have a picture of a male and a male doesnt have to bear the picture of a female.

Totally cosmetic

I like your idea. Coding itself will not take so much time, it's the drawing that will takes most of time on this.
However, if this is to be done, where exactly will the picture of female hualu appear?

Currently the picture appears only on registration page.
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Post by Nomad Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:00 pm

the pictures should appear on the att pages, also you can remove the gender signs, and replace them with gender specific race signs (the male or female characters)
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