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Assasinations
why is it that 1K assasins kill 3K units but
100K assasins only kill 30K...
can anyone explain this?
100K assasins only kill 30K...
can anyone explain this?
Truestrike- Aderan Farmer
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Re: Assasinations
It's all based on %'s. You can only kill a % of your enemy, and you lose a % of what you send. Over sabbing is usable but at a very high cost.
Nomad- Alliance Leader
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Re: Assasinations
We understand that much.... the target in uestion had 0 assassins... which means anything you send is over assassning
seaborgium- 2nd in Command
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Re: Assasinations
hey guys, check out my post in T.M.I. forums. titled "enemies without assassins"
should explain at least part of this.
should explain at least part of this.
kingkongfan1- Coalition Officer
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Re: Assasinations
kingkongfan1 wrote:hey guys, check out my post in T.M.I. forums. titled "enemies without assassins"
should explain at least part of this.
Those outside TMI can't read it tho can they?
Nomad- Alliance Leader
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Re: Assasinations
No they can not.
We arent questioning the losses on our end. We are questioning his losses. We already know admin wants this to be a fantasy game with some real life basics. Ie attacker with 0 losses even though the item that would casue the losses dont exist.
We questioning why 1k can kill 3 times its size when 100k only kills 1/3
We arent questioning the losses on our end. We are questioning his losses. We already know admin wants this to be a fantasy game with some real life basics. Ie attacker with 0 losses even though the item that would casue the losses dont exist.
We questioning why 1k can kill 3 times its size when 100k only kills 1/3
seaborgium- 2nd in Command
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Re: Assasinations
Show me such a caseseaborgium wrote:Ie attacker with 0 losses even though the item that would casue the losses dont exist.
Because it was my decision to give an EXTRA option to zero someone's stat with assassins/spiesseaborgium wrote:We questioning why 1k can kill 3 times its size when 100k only kills 1/3
Re: Assasinations
Ok the extra isnt thbe pos we are talking about.
This account has 0 assns so anything we send is that pos you call extra.
You havent answered how is it 1k can kill 3k and 100k can only kill 30k.
The power difference doesnt change between the 2.
Its nice to see the true side of the admin instead of the face he puts on.
This account has 0 assns so anything we send is that pos you call extra.
You havent answered how is it 1k can kill 3k and 100k can only kill 30k.
The power difference doesnt change between the 2.
Its nice to see the true side of the admin instead of the face he puts on.
seaborgium- 2nd in Command
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Re: Assasinations
Admin My question was
why 1000 assasins killed 3,724 spy's every single time.
and 100,000 assasins only killed 31,197 spy's.
i thought it would atleast scale some to say 300K spy's if they had them.
i'm not sure if there is an issue with the scaling or if its just the way the math comes out. if i can find an account with similar stats i can test it 1000, 2000, 3000 ect to see if slowly scales back but i wanted to make sure there was not some glitch in the system that was being missed.
why 1000 assasins killed 3,724 spy's every single time.
and 100,000 assasins only killed 31,197 spy's.
i thought it would atleast scale some to say 300K spy's if they had them.
i'm not sure if there is an issue with the scaling or if its just the way the math comes out. if i can find an account with similar stats i can test it 1000, 2000, 3000 ect to see if slowly scales back but i wanted to make sure there was not some glitch in the system that was being missed.
Truestrike- Aderan Farmer
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Re: Assasinations
A good question to ask would be when does the over assassinations start. if im correct then anything over their assassin action (excluding realm) is extra. so if you sent 100,000 assassins and only needed 10k, then you kill an extra 30k of whatever you are targeting correct?
100,000 - 10,000 = amount of assassins you sent over / 3 = extra amount killed
I assume if your opponents AA is 0 then you kill the base 5% of whatever you are attacking until you send more to break that barrier in order to over assassinate.
100,000 - 10,000 = amount of assassins you sent over / 3 = extra amount killed
I assume if your opponents AA is 0 then you kill the base 5% of whatever you are attacking until you send more to break that barrier in order to over assassinate.
Last edited by Kingofshinobis1 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:27 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : added if there was 0 AA)
Kingofshinobis1- Aderan Super Soldier
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Re: Assasinations
Good point. However admin has never said when over sab or over assn comes it..... just saysyou need to send more then what you need to match the othr players action.
Another round and round question that will never get an answer.
Another round and round question that will never get an answer.
seaborgium- 2nd in Command
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Re: Assasinations
actually I know I explained it at least once already, though not sure if it was to someone (from tmi) on pm or publicly on forumseaborgium wrote:Good point. However admin has never said when over sab or over assn comes it..... just saysyou need to send more then what you need to match the othr players action.
Another round and round question that will never get an answer.
both formulas get checked each time, whichever gives the higher kill amount, gets used
it doesn't work on the principle kill the first x% with the good rate and anything above uses the crappy one
Re: Assasinations
Oversab is a crap sea....it will cost the sabber more no matter what the techs are. Even if the defender has 0 covert the sabber will suffer more losses. Dont know why you even talk about it.......
vaga- Aderan Worker
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Re: Assasinations
The above basicly says, I did what I wanted. I didn't make it follow a normal concept as I don't want others to beable to figure it out and beat the snot out of others with it...Admin wrote:actually I know I explained it at least once already, though not sure if it was to someone (from tmi) on pm or publicly on forumseaborgium wrote:Good point. However admin has never said when over sab or over assn comes it..... just saysyou need to send more then what you need to match the othr players action.
Another round and round question that will never get an answer.
both formulas get checked each time, whichever gives the higher kill amount, gets used
it doesn't work on the principle kill the first x% with the good rate and anything above uses the crappy one
Well let me say this, the only other person to beat up is well... beat down.
I guess from here its either the rest of the server, or we just start destroying the new players till they quit, then we are to a totally dead game. Well once the last 110ish players stop playing.
seaborgium- 2nd in Command
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Re: Assasinations
The above basically says. I dont care what admin ever said or did, I dont care about his effort even though the information I want/need is available publicly, I just want to badmouth the game as much as possible and grief everyone into leaving the gameseaborgium wrote:The above basicly says, I did what I wanted. I didn't make it follow a normal concept as I don't want others to beable to figure it out and beat the snot out of others with it...
https://aderanwars.forumotion.com/t1943-assassin-sabotage-missions-overkill
first page of faq section, first reply to thread
took me a grand total of 30 seconds searching
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