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Post by Truestrike on Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:35 pm

why is it that 1K assasins kill 3K units but
100K assasins only kill 30K...

can anyone explain this?

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Post by Nomad on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:53 pm

It's all based on %'s. You can only kill a % of your enemy, and you lose a % of what you send. Over sabbing is usable but at a very high cost.
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Post by seaborgium on Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:29 am

We understand that much.... the target in uestion had 0 assassins... which means anything you send is over assassning

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Post by kingkongfan1 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:39 am

hey guys, check out my post in T.M.I. forums. titled "enemies without assassins"

should explain at least part of this.
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Post by Nomad on Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:02 am

kingkongfan1 wrote:hey guys, check out my post in T.M.I. forums. titled "enemies without assassins"

should explain at least part of this.

Those outside TMI can't read it tho can they?
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Re: Assasinations

Post by seaborgium on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:50 am

No they can not.
We arent questioning the losses on our end. We are questioning his losses. We already know admin wants this to be a fantasy game with some real life basics. Ie attacker with 0 losses even though the item that would casue the losses dont exist.

We questioning why 1k can kill 3 times its size when 100k only kills 1/3

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Re: Assasinations

Post by Admin on Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:26 pm

seaborgium wrote:Ie attacker with 0 losses even though the item that would casue the losses dont exist.
Show me such a case

seaborgium wrote:We questioning why 1k can kill 3 times its size when 100k only kills 1/3
Because it was my decision to give an EXTRA option to zero someone's stat with assassins/spies

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Re: Assasinations

Post by seaborgium on Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:54 pm

Ok the extra isnt thbe pos we are talking about.

This account has 0 assns so anything we send is that pos you call extra.
You havent answered how is it 1k can kill 3k and 100k can only kill 30k.
The power difference doesnt change between the 2.

Its nice to see the true side of the admin instead of the face he puts on.

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Re: Assasinations

Post by Truestrike on Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:03 pm

Admin My question was
why 1000 assasins killed 3,724 spy's every single time.
and 100,000 assasins only killed 31,197 spy's.

i thought it would atleast scale some to say 300K spy's if they had them.

i'm not sure if there is an issue with the scaling or if its just the way the math comes out. if i can find an account with similar stats i can test it 1000, 2000, 3000 ect to see if slowly scales back but i wanted to make sure there was not some glitch in the system that was being missed.

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Post by Kingofshinobis1 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:11 pm

A good question to ask would be when does the over assassinations start. if im correct then anything over their assassin action (excluding realm) is extra. so if you sent 100,000 assassins and only needed 10k, then you kill an extra 30k of whatever you are targeting correct?

100,000 - 10,000 = amount of assassins you sent over / 3 = extra amount killed

I assume if your opponents AA is 0 then you kill the base 5% of whatever you are attacking until you send more to break that barrier in order to over assassinate.


Last edited by Kingofshinobis1 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:27 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : added if there was 0 AA)

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Post by seaborgium on Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:49 pm

Good point. However admin has never said when over sab or over assn comes it..... just saysyou need to send more then what you need to match the othr players action.


Another round and round question that will never get an answer.

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Post by Admin on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:05 pm

seaborgium wrote:Good point. However admin has never said when over sab or over assn comes it..... just saysyou need to send more then what you need to match the othr players action.


Another round and round question that will never get an answer.
actually I know I explained it at least once already, though not sure if it was to someone (from tmi) on pm or publicly on forum

both formulas get checked each time, whichever gives the higher kill amount, gets used
it doesn't work on the principle kill the first x% with the good rate and anything above uses the crappy one

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Re: Assasinations

Post by vaga on Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:59 am

Oversab is a crap sea....it will cost the sabber more no matter what the techs are. Even if the defender has 0 covert the sabber will suffer more losses. Dont know why you even talk about it.......
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Post by seaborgium on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:52 pm

Admin wrote:
seaborgium wrote:Good point. However admin has never said when over sab or over assn comes it..... just saysyou need to send more then what you need to match the othr players action.


Another round and round question that will never get an answer.
actually I know I explained it at least once already, though not sure if it was to someone (from tmi) on pm or publicly on forum

both formulas get checked each time, whichever gives the higher kill amount, gets used
it doesn't work on the principle kill the first x% with the good rate and anything above uses the crappy one
The above basicly says, I did what I wanted. I didn't make it follow a normal concept as I don't want others to beable to figure it out and beat the snot out of others with it...


Well let me say this, the only other person to beat up is well... beat down.
I guess from here its either the rest of the server, or we just start destroying the new players till they quit, then we are to a totally dead game. Well once the last 110ish players stop playing.

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Post by Admin on Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:34 am

seaborgium wrote:The above basicly says, I did what I wanted. I didn't make it follow a normal concept as I don't want others to beable to figure it out and beat the snot out of others with it...
The above basically says. I dont care what admin ever said or did, I dont care about his effort even though the information I want/need is available publicly, I just want to badmouth the game as much as possible and grief everyone into leaving the game

http://aderanwars.forumotion.com/t1943-assassin-sabotage-missions-overkill

first page of faq section, first reply to thread
took me a grand total of 30 seconds searching

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