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Post by Kira Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:25 pm

I suggest that the game should be even more personalized.

battlefield.php
- The player must be auto-assigned automatically his own ranking position.
- The player must be shown in green background or any other color. (maybe the same for alliances?)
- Jumping trough lists by 30. We can already do that but by entering it custom.
I suggest that we should do it by selecting from a list: 1-30, 31-60, 61-90 and so on.
/
- First 3 alliances should be larger in size than the others. Descending in size from 1st to 3rd.
- First 3 alliances should have medals in front of them: gold, silver, bronze.
(=) Diplomat contacting. With this option you can offer treaties that are shown only to the superiors.
(=) Alliance application. With this option you can request to join an alliance.
- Clicking on an alliance name should redirect the player to a 'brief page'. The 'brief page' could have: name and/or abbreviation, the date it was founded on, leader ,members count, description (short one), rank, webpage, logo, news, rules and so on whatever.
- Option to sort alliances by power, experience and members number.
- Alliance names should not be bolded or colored.
(=) Possibility to add empire abreviation (4 letters max) next to the alliance name.


inbox.php
- Savebox should be renamed to 'Message Archive'. It should be down (as position) and it should contain 2 subcategories: 'Inbox' and 'Outbox'.
- The place where 'Savebox' stands now should be modified to 'Alliance'. It should contain all the messages received from alliance.
- Alliance leaders and commanders should be shown in different colors than the other normal players.
- Subjects should be obligatory.
- Friends list.


base.php
- Ability to click on messages, attacks and redirect.
- Ability to dismiss officers without accessing officerdetails.php .
- 'User Info', 'Army Distribution', 'Officers' should be colored.
- Game version.
- Notes (200-300 characters max). Could be triggered on/off from 'Display options' .
- When a new message is arrived the inbox 'button' should be colored and the number should symbolize only the messages that were not read.
- Alliance leaders should see what player requested to join.


battlerecords.php
- Ability to clear log(s).


alliance.php
- Activity log showing promotions, refused players, accepted players, declared wars, name changes and so on.


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Post by Lord Ishurue Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:13 pm

Kira wrote:I suggest that the game should be even more personalized.

battlefield.php
- The player must be auto-assigned automatically his own ranking position.
- The player must be shown in green background or any other color. (maybe the same for alliances?)
- Jumping trough lists by 30. We can already do that but by entering it custom.
I suggest that we should do it by selecting from a list: 1-30, 31-60, 61-90 and so on.
/
- First 3 alliances should be larger in size than the others. Descending in size from 1st to 3rd.
- First 3 alliances should have medals in front of them: gold, silver, bronze.
(=) Diplomat contacting. With this option you can offer treaties that are shown only to the superiors.
(=) Alliance application. With this option you can request to join an alliance.
- Clicking on an alliance name should redirect the player to a 'brief page'. The 'brief page' could have: name and/or abbreviation, the date it was founded on, leader ,members count, description (short one), rank, webpage, logo, news, rules and so on whatever.
- Option to sort alliances by power, experience and members number.
- Alliance names should not be bolded or colored.
(=) Possibility to add empire abreviation (4 letters max) next to the alliance name.


inbox.php
- Savebox should be renamed to 'Message Archive'. It should be down (as position) and it should contain 2 subcategories: 'Inbox' and 'Outbox'.
- The place where 'Savebox' stands now should be modified to 'Alliance'. It should contain all the messages received from alliance.
- Alliance leaders and commanders should be shown in different colors than the other normal players.
- Subjects should be obligatory.
- Friends list.


base.php
- Ability to click on messages, attacks and redirect.
- Ability to dismiss officers without accessing officerdetails.php .
- 'User Info', 'Army Distribution', 'Officers' should be colored.
- Game version.
- Notes (200-300 characters max). Could be triggered on/off from 'Display options' .
- When a new message is arrived the inbox 'button' should be colored and the number should symbolize only the messages that were not read.
- Alliance leaders should see what player requested to join.


battlerecords.php
- Ability to clear log(s).


alliance.php
- Activity log showing promotions, refused players, accepted players, declared wars, name changes and so on.


Credits:
MooMooCow buhcoreTheGreat for helping me

What about an easy Sab and assassinate button as well ? new players instead of finding what to send the easy sab button does it for u but u lose 10% of spies sent instead of 5 .
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Post by buhcoreTheGreat Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:30 pm

Ishurue wrote:
What about an easy Sab and assassinate button as well ? new players instead of finding what to send the easy sab button does it for u but u lose 10% of spies sent instead of 5 .
New players usually dont sab, losing more % units makes no sense
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Post by Nomad Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:41 am

I think it was sarcasm? but IDK

I'll address the points in the morning, i saw some i liked and some admin has already said would not happen, and i have a few to add myself.

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Kira wrote:I suggest that the game should be even more personalized.

battlefield.php
- The player must be auto-assigned automatically his own ranking position.
I have to say I like this, its brings you to players in your own power standing, not crazy high above you like it does now and not a bottom of the list where everyone is dead. I think its a good request.
- The player must be shown in green background or any other color. (maybe the same for alliances?)
I don't think this is necissary myself, could be done for the single player, but I disagree about doing it for the alliance mates. They have their taggs beside their names, and you have the "peace" setting to signify friends
- Jumping trough lists by 30. We can already do that but by entering it custom.
Not sure I understand, I just use previous and next page at the bottom
I suggest that we should do it by selecting from a list: 1-30, 31-60, 61-90 and so on.
/I think just fixing the "jump to page XXX" box is all thats needed
- First 3 alliances should be larger in size than the others. Descending in size from 1st to 3rd.
I have no issue against it, but see no real point in doing it other than cosmetic appearance.
- First 3 alliances should have medals in front of them: gold, silver, bronze.
Same as above.
(=) Diplomat contacting. With this option you can offer treaties that are shown only to the superiors.
So basicly a link where anyone can massafe another alliances "Advisors or leadership" It sounds good, but is exploitable so unless the option has an on/off toggle I think its a bad idea as someone can spam the heck out of an opposing alliances leaders Inbox causing them to miss inner alliance messages of value.
(=) Alliance application. With this option you can request to join an alliance.
I personally agree
- Clicking on an alliance name should redirect the player to a 'brief page'. The 'brief page' could have: name and/or abbreviation, the date it was founded on, leader ,members count, description (short one), rank, webpage, logo, news, rules and so on whatever.
I personally agree
- Option to sort alliances by power, experience and members number.
I don't really see any use for this, and question if its worth the time to code it.
- Alliance names should not be bolded or colored.
I personally agree as sooner or later you will have more alliances then colors. All should appear equally atleast to me they should.
(=) Possibility to add empire abreviation (4 letters max) next to the alliance name.
I think this has already been discussed by admin and there is a link for Empire Name, its just not coded yet I think.

inbox.php
- Savebox should be renamed to 'Message Archive'. It should be down (as position) and it should contain 2 subcategories: 'Inbox' and 'Outbox'.
I agree
- The place where 'Savebox' stands now should be modified to 'Alliance'. It should contain all the messages received from alliance.
I personally agree and wish this one would happen.
- Alliance leaders and commanders should be shown in different colors than the other normal players.
Agree and Disagree. If it is toggleable then ok, if not then I strongly disagree. Many alliances use fake "leaders" to draw fire and do not want their core members/HC/alliance leaders to be known publicly
- Subjects should be obligatory.
Torn on that one, lazy side of me says its not necissary, but it would help to define messages and I honestly like the idea myself.
- Friends list.
Not sure what your asking for with said list so I don't know how to respond.


base.php
- Ability to click on messages, attacks and redirect.
Has been asked for before, and I wish it would happen but I think Admin said plain "No" to those suggestions in the past
- Ability to dismiss officers without accessing officerdetails.php .
Could be done, but again, is clicking 1 more link that hard? is it worth the effort to code it? is it worth changing the present system?
- 'User Info', 'Army Distribution', 'Officers' should be colored.
Colored means its a clickable link, so i see no point in coloring user information, nor army distrobution, but you could color "officers" and it direct you to the "manage officer" link as it is now. be one less link, but is it more confusing that way?
- Game version.
?
- Notes (200-300 characters max). Could be triggered on/off from 'Display options' .
Notes were? are you asking for a personal log such as the one in TGW? because we have asked for it already, I think it was being looked into by admin.
- When a new message is arrived the inbox 'button' should be colored and the number should symbolize only the messages that were not read.
I really like and fully agree with this idea
- Alliance leaders should see what player requested to join.
agree.


battlerecords.php
- Ability to clear log(s).
Why? whats wrong with letting them fall off naturally? I'm not against it, just don't see the need

alliance.php
- Activity log showing promotions, refused players, accepted players, declared wars, name changes and so on.
Ummmm, IDK, what benifit is there to this? and will it not simply add up "useless" information that the server must store and process over time?

Credits:
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Great job guys.
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2. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behavior, esp the pretense of virtue and piety
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Post by Kenzu Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:39 pm

Kira, I like you suggestions very much.

I strongly support the following suggestions:

- The player must be auto-assigned automatically his own ranking position.
- The player must be shown in green background or any other color. (maybe the same for alliances?)
- Option to sort alliances by power, experience and members number.
- Clicking on an alliance name should redirect the player to a 'brief page'. The 'brief page' could have: name and/or abbreviation, the date it was founded on, leader ,members count, description (short one), rank, webpage, logo, news, rules and so on whatever.
We are working on Alliance profiles already, good to see other people want them too
(=) Possibility to add empire abreviation (4 letters max) next to the alliance name.
- When a new message is arrived the inbox 'button' should be colored and the number should symbolize only the messages that were not read.
- Activity log showing promotions, refused players, accepted players, declared wars, name changes and so on.
- Subjects should be obligatory.

I would like to comment on this one:

- Alliance names should not be bolded or colored.
=> I think all alliance names should be either bolded or not,
but alliance leaders should have the possibility to select a color for the alliance name.

(=) Alliance application. With this option you can request to join an alliance.
=> If you are not a member of any alliance, ALLIANCE page will open up the possibility to view all alliances and send an application to join.
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Post by Nomad Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:49 am

I still say the rainbow effect is not worth the effort in alliance names. There are only so many colors and if the game grows there is too high a possibility there will be more alliances then colors. Then you have people taking other peoples colors for agervation, people getting attacked for their color and so on.

Its not easy to "take away" an option, as people will cry endlessly about it, so just think it through. Is it really worth it in the long run?
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2. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behavior, esp the pretense of virtue and piety
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Post by buhcoreTheGreat Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:40 pm

Nomad wrote:I still say the rainbow effect is not worth the effort in alliance names. There are only so many colors and if the game grows there is too high a possibility there will be more alliances then colors. Then you have people taking other peoples colors for agervation, people getting attacked for their color and so on.

Its not easy to "take away" an option, as people will cry endlessly about it, so just think it through. Is it really worth it in the long run?

You already saw the post in Alliance Colors thread but i will still post here for anyone else to see,
buhcoreTheGreat wrote:
Kenzu wrote:
I propose an update, where all alliances can choose an alliance color.
(This means that the name of the alliance next to an alliance members name will appear in the chosen color)
I dont support this because i dont see a point here, its the same as you would suggest to color your name ?
I only like the idea when your own alliance is shown in color ( same color for all ) and is visibile to you and your alliance members only and not to public
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Post by Admin Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:27 pm

Ok, busy two weeks are behind me, so time to reply to this

Kira wrote:I suggest that the game should be even more personalized.

battlefield.php
- The player must be auto-assigned automatically his own ranking position.
already added in code, will be released soonish
- The player must be shown in green background or any other color. (maybe the same for alliances?)
any particular reason why green background? beside it looking quite ugly
- Jumping trough lists by 30. We can already do that but by entering it custom.
I suggest that we should do it by selecting from a list: 1-30, 31-60, 61-90 and so on.
dont see the benefit in that
/
- First 3 alliances should be larger in size than the others. Descending in size from 1st to 3rd.
nope
- First 3 alliances should have medals in front of them: gold, silver, bronze.
alliances will get their own "stat" page, so maybe
(=) Diplomat contacting. With this option you can offer treaties that are shown only to the superiors.
really dont see the reason for that. however for an option for an alliance to show who's the diplomat, see above
(=) Alliance application. With this option you can request to join an alliance.
see above about stat page
- Clicking on an alliance name should redirect the player to a 'brief page'. The 'brief page' could have: name and/or abbreviation, the date it was founded on, leader ,members count, description (short one), rank, webpage, logo, news, rules and so on whatever.
"stat" page
- Option to sort alliances by power, experience and members number.
I'll just say "dunno", if I get really bored and feel there's nothing else to work on
- Alliance names should not be bolded or colored.
dont see why not, might cause a bunch of wars for color usage

(=) Possibility to add empire abreviation (4 letters max) next to the alliance name.
empires aren't out


inbox.php
- Savebox should be renamed to 'Message Archive'. It should be down (as position) and it should contain 2 subcategories: 'Inbox' and 'Outbox'.
last time i checked, you can see in the savebox who the message was from and who it went to, and considering you can only save 20 messages ...
- The place where 'Savebox' stands now should be modified to 'Alliance'. It should contain all the messages received from alliance.
I can say that wont happen
- Alliance leaders and commanders should be shown in different colors than the other normal players.
messages already get unique subject names, plus you always have browser search function, so that's a "no" for now
- Subjects should be obligatory.
i'll let the writers decide
- Friends list.
i'll just say maybe


base.php
- Ability to click on messages, attacks and redirect.
notices will get slight rework, so maybe, but only MAYBE, i'll somehow work the linking into that
- Ability to dismiss officers without accessing officerdetails.php .
no, stop being lazy
- 'User Info', 'Army Distribution', 'Officers' should be colored.
why? what color? it's not like anyone looks at those words
- Game version.
what's that
- Notes (200-300 characters max). Could be triggered on/off from 'Display options' .
as nomad said, I haven't said no to that
- When a new message is arrived the inbox 'button' should be colored and the number should symbolize only the messages that were not read.
I can say this will happen shortly
- Alliance leaders should see what player requested to join.
you mean get a notice of who requested to join? i thought that already was the case, if it isn't then i'll add it


battlerecords.php
- Ability to clear log(s).
nope


alliance.php
- Activity log showing promotions, refused players, accepted players, declared wars, name changes and so on.
nope

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Post by Kira Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:14 pm

Admin wrote:Ok, busy two weeks are behind me, so time to reply to this
um...
Kira wrote:I suggest that the game should be even more personalized.

battlefield.php
- The player must be auto-assigned automatically his own ranking position.
already added in code, will be released soonish
cool , it's like general to most of browser games.
- The player must be shown in green background or any other color. (maybe the same for alliances?)
any particular reason why green background? beside it looking quite ugly
not really.. green = default .. but yeah I guess it depends on background
/
- First 3 alliances should be larger in size than the others. Descending in size from 1st to 3rd.
nope
this could be pretty coolish but oh well
- First 3 alliances should have medals in front of them: gold, silver, bronze.
alliances will get their own "stat" page, so maybe
yay
(=) Diplomat contacting. With this option you can offer treaties that are shown only to the superiors.
really dont see the reason for that. however for an option for an alliance to show who's the diplomat, see above
(=) Alliance application. With this option you can request to join an alliance.
see above about stat page
- Clicking on an alliance name should redirect the player to a 'brief page'. The 'brief page' could have: name and/or abbreviation, the date it was founded on, leader ,members count, description (short one), rank, webpage, logo, news, rules and so on whatever.
"stat" page
kkkk
- Option to sort alliances by power, experience and members number.
I'll just say "dunno", if I get really bored and feel there's nothing else to work on
it's helpful if game will have many players
- Alliance names should not be bolded or colored.
dont see why not, might cause a bunch of wars for color usage
(=) Possibility to add empire abreviation (4 letters max) next to the alliance name.
empires aren't out
what? faster (kidding)

base.php
- Ability to click on messages, attacks and redirect.
notices will get slight rework, so maybe, but only MAYBE, i'll somehow work the linking into that
- Ability to dismiss officers without accessing officerdetails.php .
no, stop being lazy
lol

alliance.php
- Activity log showing promotions, refused players, accepted players, declared wars, name changes and so on.
nope
eh k

Ishurue wrote:
What about an easy Sab and assassinate button as well ? new players instead of finding what to send the easy sab button does it for u but u lose 10% of spies sent instead of 5 .
booo hoo hoo

Nomad wrote:I still say the rainbow effect is not worth the effort in alliance names. There are only so many colors and if the game grows there is too high a possibility there will be more alliances then colors. Then you have people taking other peoples colors for agervation, people getting attacked for their color and so on.

Its not easy to "take away" an option, as people will cry endlessly about it, so just think it through. Is it really worth it in the long run?
me thinks it's logic.
flawless.

Nomad wrote:Great job guys.
Kenzu wrote:Kira, I like you suggestions very much.
thanks.. tho nobody likes em .. phew



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@Nomad, I meant both. Smile
Sorry. Added up!


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Post by Nomad Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:46 am

I belive you will find more then 1 was supported, so I dont see where you say

"thanks.. tho nobody likes em .. phew"
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2. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behavior, esp the pretense of virtue and piety
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Post by Admin Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:35 pm

all future notices created from this moment onward should get included with a link of some sort (however a bunch of them will simply point you at base page)

Gametime: 21 Feb 11:33:11

also the inbox thingy only displaying unread messages in the infobar has been released a few days back
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Post by Nomad Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:27 am

Nice work admin, real nice.
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2. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behavior, esp the pretense of virtue and piety
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