The Dark Crusade

GeIveI2aL wrote:Then try to understand our frustration. We show you EXACT information, posted PUBLICLY. and you give us "muddy waters"

Take a stand, I can respect that even if you say I believe Kenzu 100% true and that I am wrong. That I can respect. Playing hide and seek with words is aggravating the horns off my billy goat.

Kenzu has "apologized" privately for at least 2 actions(To just a select few people). yet you and all of WR will not admitt one single flaw in your leader. Its exhausting.

Understandable, the fraustration TIE holds for Kenzu.

I dont 100% believe Kenzu but what I do know is what hes done for me, personally.

So apologies for my 'Hide and and seek with words', I only wish to get this resolved without crippling someones reputation who helped me and earnt my respect.[/quote]

I honestly dont see how admitting your faults is "crippling" your reputation(Refering to kenzu)

man up, admit, aplogize, shut up (for a spell, month, maybe two) and all will be good in the universe again.

Just my two cents, I could respect that anyway.

mehh,

*stumbles off to bed.*

I will be frank, Kenzu has helped me out personally, but i still don't see a reason not to mass him and WR for the crap he has pulled.

Special Agent 47 wrote:[quote=\"GeIveI2aL\"]

Post your failed attempt at Sara or isn\'t that valid, as you DID try to destroy her too.

People are only as good as their triumpths AND failures.

[27 Dec] 15:23 Sara Attack Failed 851 2953 1,774,753,142 812,636,748 details
[27 Dec] 15:22 Sara Attack Failed 1019 2855 1,606,222,036 873,460,322 details
[27 Dec] 15:21 Sara Attack Failed 941 3152 1,816,432,995 904,219,470 details
[27 Dec] 15:21 Sara Attack Failed 1076 3132 1,807,319,755 1,009,665,090 details
[27 Dec] 15:19 Sara Attack Failed 1070 3369 1,738,147,924 932,390,928 details
[27 Dec] 15:18 Sara Attack Failed 1251 3308 1,786,464,981 1,096,343,948 details
[27 Dec] 15:18 Sara Attack Failed 1195 3599 1,892,648,424 1,086,241,114 details
[27 Dec] 15:18 Sara Attack Failed 1346 3575 1,816,649,164 1,163,142,288 details
[27 Dec] 15:18 Sara Attack Failed 1391 3708 1,901,497,065 1,244,314,344 details

my ME went down approximately 360 mill ish.

I have NO problem publicly showing and admitting my failures.

Tho TBH I don\'t consider it to be one, Did I lose that battle, YES. Did I suffer great losses that followed me the rest of the night in the form of a handicapped strike, Hell YES.

Wanna see my failed strikes on Trotsky as well?
[27 Dec] 15:35 Trotsky Victory 2191 0 0 428,080,128 details
[27 Dec] 15:35 Trotsky Attack Failed 642 1420 764,003,820 491,174,040 details
[27 Dec] 15:34 Trotsky Attack Failed 606 1556 806,187,736 476,994,784 details
[27 Dec] 15:32 Trotsky Attack Failed 730 1492 751,518,723 530,165,720 details
[27 Dec] 15:32 Trotsky Attack Failed 618 1711 822,099,258 486,966,060 details
[27 Dec] 15:31 Trotsky Attack Failed 713 1678 846,641,880 572,583,746 details
[27 Dec] 15:30 Trotsky Attack Failed 761 1709 847,648,526 605,097,864 details
[27 Dec] 15:30 Trotsky Attack Failed 844 1733 826,011,473 626,120,614 details
[27 Dec] 15:29 Trotsky Attack Failed 797 1910 862,872,792 590,895,214 details
[27 Dec] 15:29 Trotsky Attack Failed 786 2044 931,570,794 612,731,700 details
[27 Dec] 15:28 Trotsky Attack Failed 990 1943 887,528,295 703,627,848 details
[27 Dec] 15:27 Trotsky Attack Failed 962 2072 975,009,580 742,644,000 details
[27 Dec] 15:27 Trotsky Attack Failed 1025 2125 933,105,288 736,600,550 details

Sorry, that\'s all my failures for the night, if you choose to call them failures. I had a goal, and I still do. Have I FULLY achieved my goal? NO, am I very close to achieving my goal? I sure think so. My strike has grown around 20%, has Sara\'s Defense?

My goals are not immediate, nor instantly gratifying. I am a slow methodical player. I take the good with the bad. Losing ME bother me? Not a bit. Its numbers, pixels on a screen. If Sara is online next time I\'ll prolly go in the negatives. I don\'t care. I\'ll keep trudging along till I reach my goal, or a new better goal is chosen. See I put my friends and alliance before myself and my personal account.

If WR wants peace its easy to find, IF you want to find it.

[quote=\"GeIveI2aL\"]Your costs were great weren\'t they?
Resources are just getting trown away, only making yourselfs weaker.
Can\'t see why one would do such a thing, no matter the reason.[/quote]
Yes, and so were the rewards.
and if you really feel this way, I truely wonder why you honestly play this style of game.

[quote=\"GeIveI2aL\"]
TIE have issues with farmers.
TY Lord Ishurue for clearing that up, also go ask Vaga about his farming of TIE (Yes it happens, I have the logs to prove it) and ask him about how we massed him for it (Oh thats right we didn\'t because it WAS within our 3 teir policy), Go ask Damngood(Danuboy) and Rflash about how we have massed them for farming us(Again within our own 3 teir farming system so its allowed)
Why punish people who have not wronged TIE?[/quote]
3 reasons
1. massing kenzu didnt shut him up nor stop him
2. You keep saying WR knew full well what he was doing and backed him so WR are as much to blame as Kenzu
by you not asking kenzu to step down. by your not questioning his actions, by your not acting against nor speaking out against it, you condone it
3. Most Importantly, To actually open WR\'s eyes to what kenzu is doing. We spent weeks trying to get WR members to post and respond, to get a diplomate to try to get this solved, Guess when regular WR members got involved? Now when we massed you. imagine that. Reckon our plan might be working? Reckon some of WR are opening their eyes and seeing whats going on outside the confines of WR?

[quote=\"Truestrike\"]Here is what i have learned from my history with TIE.

your hate seeing Kenzu and in extension WR from hitting smaller players.
Incorrect. I hate seeing Kenzu MASS a defender of a WR agression WITHOUT any form of diplomacy, WHILE trying to say he hates that same action and feels people should not do it, I point to the Tackless shadow vs shyshadow thread as proof
you hate us recruiting like crazy and then if they go inactive not kicking them out.
Incorrect, we hate when Kenzu \"horded\" dead accounts and then Threatened anyone new or smaller then him, saying if they farm dead WR accounts he would mass them because they were exclusive farms for WR.
Now your issue is that Kenzu (WR) has wronged TIE and your out to destroy every target that you view as treat. even those not in WR. anyone that farms TIE will eventually be massed. i see that as bullying which is what we went to war over in the first place.First off, Why does ANYONE in WR think you are a threat to us? We massed you in the first war and you had to get GD to save your asses, We have massed you now and you can\'t even muster a single counter strike. Once Kenzu and Sara fall WR will be a burning husk UNABLE to even hurt TIE(Save maybe Dox, but we massed him once, I asked we let him go if this doesnt drag on to long, he took his massing as a stand up guy I thought. Now back to farming, Yes Lord Ishurue, GD, and a few more farm us, guess what, we allow it because its truely profitable hits, and it would be a damn sight easier and cheaper to mass 1 or 2 targets then all of WR, I think your just to emotional against us to see that.

Ian you need to get your story straight and stop trying to find a reason to hate us. We dont have to \"try\" to find anything, Kenzu has left a public and private trail a mile wide, just pick a few of the many we have posted that YOU refuse to address.
We have known you were planning to keep the war going from well before we ever tried to make peace. we \"started\" the last war because we had info that either later that day or the next you were ready to mass us.
If thats so then WHY did we sign the peace treaty? hell we agreed to everything GD and WR put forth on the farming policy, its GD and WR who went back and forth, we just said OK. as for your \"information\" Nice of you to admitt you had a spy and he was ACTIVE LOL
stop with all the drama. take over the whole game like you want and move on. once everyone has been massed into your own personal TIE kuwal farms you can rejoice in the fact that TIE are the only ones still playing.[/quote]
Didnt really get the last part, but I think its a reference to us being the only ones left playing? If so, ask yourself why no one but WR is in trouble, and many are bigger.stronger/smaller/weaker. What makes WR special? I\'ll give you a hint KENZU[/quote]

I dont know how u guys do those awesome quotes . So i'll do it this way .

On the Vaga part , I talked with him a little bit in game , he thought TIE was gonna mass him cuz he was farming them alot ,
I Explained TIE's farm policy to him , all his hits he said he made at least 250mil profit . I told him he wont get because all his hits were within TIE's policy .

Like SA said Vaga hasn't been touched . he still is ranked 2 .

@ G , If you farm TIE with in their policy they aint gonna touch you , an angry member might send a pm showing some anger and or asking for a break/ cease farm ... etc . I haven't been massed for Farming TIE .
So you cant say TIE will mass you if you farm them . If that were true then Me , Rflash , Damgood , Castravete , and Vaga would not be in our current Ranks .

OMG. Another one of these.
No offense to you personally, Ish, because you should know I love your style and you probably have a good reason, but send a message to learn2quote@forums.com, please. (Same goes for the lot of you, whether you're TIE or WR, quoting isn't that hard. Reading posts in which you do it wrong, is..)

*Universe receives message from learn2read@forums.com*
Wait. Now I read the lower part of your message, sorry. Sent you a PM.
@Rest: Still goes for the lot of you. Take a few seconds to quote properly, please? For legibility's sake?

*masses* Lord Ish, oh wait..... That won't work

Uni i don't think its something they did, more the forum.

Universe wrote:*Universe receives message from learn2read@forums.com*
Wait. Now I read the lower part of your message, sorry. Sent you a PM.
@Rest: Still goes for the lot of you. Take a few seconds to quote properly, please? For legibility's sake?

Or maybe not lol

What if I had the proof of TIE massing JUST because of someone, although keeping within the farming policy, was farming 1 or 2 members of TIE?

Them members wanted to see blood for the lost kuwal, which was fairly taken.

TIE HC made the so-called decision to mass this 'Farmer'.

So you see, no-one is safe unless you are TIE.

so where's your proof? Did uncle Kenzu tell you about it? Awwww, how cute...

Sandwalker wrote:so where's your proof? Did uncle Kenzu tell you about it? Awwww, how cute...

I am not aware he did, after all, I only was doing the digging. Suprising just have far I've gone too.

I have the proof, anyone who wants to see it is welcome to. After all TIE could 'view' it at any point.

Let's have a look at it then.

Sandwalker wrote:Let's have a look at it then.

I know stand NEUTRAL on all accounts. (Alliance)--->

I spoke with vesper, no longer a need for that proof and so its removed.

So the proof that never was will never be? That's an unexpected turn of events.

Sandwalker wrote:So the proof that never was will never be? That's an unexpected turn of events.

Oh it did exist, speak to Vesper. It has gone nowhere but to his eyes.

GeIveI2aL wrote:

Sandwalker wrote:So the proof that never was will never be? That's an unexpected turn of events.

Oh it did exist, speak to Vesper. It has gone nowhere but to his eyes.

Empty words ... I see nothing but an attempt. And what is a failed attempt? Is it worth anything? I say Ni!

Sandwalker wrote:

GeIveI2aL wrote:

Sandwalker wrote:So the proof that never was will never be? That's an unexpected turn of events.

Oh it did exist, speak to Vesper. It has gone nowhere but to his eyes.

Empty words ... I see nothing but an attempt. And what is a failed attempt? Is it worth anything? I say Ni!

Good for you, don't you have something to be doing? Hahaha

I do. A normal man by day, I debunk false claims by night! I am Truthman-dude. Wherever there is bullshit, I am there.

Wha.

Well - i had been willing to give World Republic 3 days of peace in order to sort their affairs out, and to put together a peace-package... and declared as such on the other thread (the offer of which has now been deleted given WR's latest stunt).

However - once again the curse of Kenzu strikes again. Its come to my attention that World Republic has absolutely ZERO intention of removing Kenzu from power (contary to what they are saying on the forums) - and that far from intending to have peace, they are currently messaging every half-decent player - whether solo or part of an alliance - out there begging for help, and begging to gang up on The Imperium Empire.

This, ladies & Gentlemen - is not acceptable. Especially when they are asking for peace and begging for TIE to ease its pressure off them. We can only conclude that World Republic intends to stall for time with their diplomacy, coupled with attempting to get us to drop our guard - while they got ready to counter-attack - much like they did the last time when they targetted indiscriminately Company Members and wiped out 7million miners... while before begging for peace.

So... as a result 2 more players have joined the fallen - Redblublu & Martygg

If World Republic thinks we are going to ease off pressure of you now after the stunt you ve just tried to pull.... your VERY much mistaken!

Long Live The Imperium Empire!

You got a copy of that message?

Nods

FarleShadow wrote:You got a copy of that message?

Your going to have to be more specific - we ve got copies of several messages. Not all of World Republic are loyal to Kenzu anymore - you d be suprised what some players are prepared to tell you in exchange for their being left alone (or given a garantee of being compensated should they be massed). T.I.E didn't have spies in World Republic at the time of the peace treaty or before it - but since WR doesn't give a damn about treaties, or about sticking to what it says (i.e. asking for peace then trying to rally other alliances to their banner to fight TIE), then i no longer see a reason not to have spies in WR - it was one of the first things to be rectified after WR's breach of the treaty - and consequently out disbandment of it - was made public.

GeIveI2aL wrote:I spoke with vesper, no longer a need for that proof and so its removed.

*goes to PM Vesper*

TIE will fail at the end, everyone does- enjoy as you can

buhcoreTheGreat wrote:TIE will fail at the end, everyone does- enjoy as you can

I happen to agree with you. Even Rome fell eventually.

I also hope another rises in our stead, and another in their stead.

The kingdoms of men rise and fall but none are everlasting, just like men are not everlasting.


So yes I will enjoy the game for as long as I can, as I hope everyone does.

buhcoreTheGreat wrote:TIE will fail at the end, everyone does- enjoy as you can

Agreed. In the end, everyone does. But whoever would stay around until the end?