good and evil

Let's have a discussion about good and evil.

What do you consider good and what do you consider evil?

Is it good or evil to torture a suspected terrorist which could save 1000 people if he really is one?
Is it good or evil to sacrifice one person to save 100?
and there are even more dillemas.

in times like thoes you have to go with the lesser of two evils id say

Is it evil to kill a piglet ? It's not evil, we eat it and it is good

Then is it evil to kill a kitten ? Guess not, it's no different from the piglet.

Then is it evil to kill a baby ? Only difference between babies and kittens is one race evolved claws, the other brains. Guess not.

I think it's all subjective and strictly governed by the society / community in which you measure it. That's why there is no good and evil.

Let me give myself as an example. These are the reasons I don't kill people or at least I try to avoid it:

1. I fear retribution from friends or relatives of my victim(s);
2. I fear punishment from the community for breaking the rules;
3. I don't think I would enjoy it really (Alternate: I fear I would like it.).

Sandwalker wrote:Is it evil to kill a piglet ? It's not evil, we eat it and it is good

Then is it evil to kill a kitten ? Guess not, it's no different from the piglet.

Then is it evil to kill a baby ? Only difference between babies and kittens is one race evolved claws, the other brains. Guess not.

I think it's all subjective and strictly governed by the society / community in which you measure it. That's why there is no good and evil.

Let me give myself as an example. These are the reasons I don't kill people or at least I try to avoid it:

1. I fear retribution from friends or relatives of my victim(s);
2. I fear punishment from the community for breaking the rules;
3. I don't think I would enjoy it really (Alternate: I fear I would like it.).

I think killing a piglet is evil.
I consider killing a bug on purpose is evil too.
I eat meat, but if I would have to kill to eat meat, I would become a vegetarian.
I don't have the heart to kill something innocent.

evil is just something man kind created. nothing is truely evil.. it's only ones precerption and soceity acceptence of what is right and wrong
....and so is good

i eat meat squrels rabits deer cows, you know the usal stuff oh and pigs sometimes

(apparently a lot of people think its strange to eat a squirrel but its quite common here not somuch in the general public but to the urban area i live in and others like it across the region (mid west) and probaly down south i dont realy know)

Good and evil is whatever you think it is.

good= you get warm and fuzzy inside

evil= you get the chills ect

if you do somthing evil and you dont know its evil or it is justified i see it as not being evil for example
hanging a black man = evil (with exceptions)
hanging Saddam Husein = good um...nope no aceptions

its more about why you do what you do that makes it good or evil wouldnt you say?

october 17 wrote:good= you get warm and fuzzy inside

evil= you get the chills ect

if you do somthing evil and you dont know its evil or it is justified i see it as not being evil for example
hanging a black man = evil (with exceptions)
hanging Saddam Husein = good um...nope no aceptions

its more about why you do what you do that makes it good or evil wouldnt you say?

Why do you say hanging Saddam is good?

Saddam was responsible for much less deaths than the present Iraqi government.

beacaus im american ad i beleave bits of what the gvernment tells us

g w bush says hes a nut, i beleave that much

and good point they should hang too? idk i dont know who that government is to be honest

Kenzu wrote:What do you consider good and what do you consider evil?

good is when someone discovers a bug on the test server

bad is when they use it against ME

evil is when the admin take their side against ME

Kenzu wrote:I don't have the heart to kill something innocent.

There is no such thing as "innocent" and you have never been hungry. Humans are designed to eat meat, and the race as a whole could not sustain itself on a non meat diet. The farm lands are dwindling. even if you didnt eat meat, the fact more farm land would be taken would simply kill even more species of the animals you look to save. We raise our meat animals, we dont eat a huge % of wild game, so loss of habitat would be far more crippling to them then killing and eating a few of them.

Squirrel gravy is the bomb BTW.

Wow r1maru revives topics even older the the ones you do Nomad!



-Alex

He is gifted to say the least, and I love his avy. Makes me smile everytime I see it.

Why would you not?


I fear your having a poppy overload

uk, so to be on topic:

good is me because i have discovered that this is where a post of mine was deleted for being spam

evil is the moderator for letting me discover this on my own

There is no good nor evil. Only different points of view. What is evil for someone, might be the ultimate act of good for someone else

I would not go to that extreme, tho I do see the point you are making.

in the life of man there is no black and white, only varying shades of grey.

So true.

From the surface I would say r1maru's avvy is A lighter shade of grey (I.e. good) and Nomads Avvy is a darker shade of grey (Evil) BUT looks can be decieving.

Perhaps r1maru's avvy is a vicious serial killer of kittes and puppies (Doing so makes him happy and therefore makes him look good.) and Nomads avvy is the guy trying to catch him (And seeing all those horrible things makes him look evil.)...

-Alex

I portray a thief and an assassin, but that doesn't make me evil. Perhapes I steal ill gotten goods to return to the rightful owners, and kill people such as mass murderers. Still doesn't make me good.

I think there is some good and some evil in every action of man.

Yeah I think that is true as well, even if you are only trying to do good you may do some evil as well. (And vice versa)

-Alex

Good & Evil are two sides of the same coin to me. I have done what some would consider Good & I have done what more than a lot of you would consider Evil, All was done to achieve the same goal; In my case the survival of me and mine, & if any of you were in my shoes you would have done the same or perished.

Good = Does not exist

Evil = Does not exist

Good & Evil are words humans use to communicate with .

Jerry Blazicka wrote:Good = Does not exist

Evil = Does not exist

Good & Evil are words humans use to communicate with .

By that logic pie does not exist, as pie is just a word we use to comunicate with.

And yet I have pie right now....Nom nom nom...
(Disclaimer: I don't have any pie.)


Good and evil DO exist, they are ideas, their meaning can differ from person to person, there is no definitive 'This is good, this is evil' but the idea still exist, even if it is not something you can 'touch' and 'see' etc.

-Alex