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Post by Kenzu Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:34 pm

This thread is part of an Aderan Wars FAQ that answers players questions:

What is the most efficient weapon on Aderan Wars?

In June 2012, it's the mobile artillery (the average UU price was around 375,000 kuwal).
Runners up are Tank (95% efficiency) and MLRS (94% efficiency), while tank is more manpower intensive, and MLRS more kuwal intensive.

UU price = 375,000 kuwal
Name: Strength: Price: Efficiency:
Superweapon 2,650 2,332,000 67%
ICBM Launcher 2,200 1,430,000 81%
MLRS 1,800 864,000 94%
Mobile Artillery 1,450 522,000 100%
Main Battle Tank 1,100 308,000 95%
IFV 800 184000 81%
APC 560 112,000 63%
Heavy Mortar 380 57,000 47%
Grenade Launcher 250 25000 33%
Machine Gun 150 15000 20%
Sniper Rifle 90 11700 12%
Assault Rifle 45 7200 6%
Submachine Gun 20 3600 3%
Automatic Pistol 10 1900 1%
Knife 5 1000 1%


The efficiency of a weapon is not only based on it's price and strength, but also on the price of UU, training cost of soldiers, on the upkeep and also on the time the weapon is kept until its destroyed in the battle.

For simplicity I ignore the lifespan of a weapon and it's upkeep cost (better weapons have higher per point upkeep cost than weaker weapons)
As the UU prices increase, different weapons become more efficient.

The UU price stayed at around 375,000 for over half a year. At this price each soldier costs 525,000. Using the best weapon will allow you to have the highest strike/defense action at the lowest price. The previous table shows weapon efficiency of all weapons at 375,000 kuwal, while the table below shows the best 3 weapons at different UU prices.

Most efficient weapon at different UU prices
UU price range:Best weapon (at lowest UU price)2nd best weapon3rd best weapon
0-215,000 kuwal100% Main Battle Tank96% IFV93% Mobile Artillery
215,000-750,000 kuwal100% Mobile Artillery99.63% Main Battle Tank90% MLRS
375,000 kuwal100% Mobile Artillery95% Main Battle Tank94% MLRS
750,000-1,540,000 kuwal100% MLRS99.93% Mobile Artillery93% ICBM Launcher
1,540,000-2,830,000 kuwal100% ICBM Launcher99.95% MLRS93% Superweapon
2,830,000-10,000,000100% Superweapon100% ICBM Launcher94% MLRS
10,000,000 kuwal and more100% Superweapon89% ICBM Launcher77% MLRS (64% MA, 50% tank)
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Post by moky Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:51 pm

How do you calculate the efficiency? And how does the efficiency work in a battle?(preferably use an example to explain)

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Post by Iamdoom Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:18 pm

I think Stealth Tank should be renamed to nuclear artillery.
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Post by kingkongfan1 Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:39 pm

Iamdoom wrote:I think Stealth Tank should be renamed to nuclear artillery.

stealth tank? or Main Battle Tank?
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Post by Nomad Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:54 pm

kingkongfan1 wrote:
Iamdoom wrote:I think Stealth Tank should be renamed to nuclear artillery.

stealth tank? or Main Battle Tank?

In test they are called stealth tanks, in this example its called super weapon. No idea why the discrepancy. Perhaps Kenzu can enlighten us.
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Post by Kenzu Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:13 pm

Initially it was a Stealth tank, with a stealth tank image. Later, when weapon pictures have been changed, it received an image of a tactical nuke/nuclear artillery. The code still calls it a stealth tank, but it already has the nuclear artillery image. Since it's unclear what the name of this weapon will be, I edited the post and renamed it superweapon. Those people who refer to stealth tank, probably still saw the old post.

That's why it's called superweapon for now.
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Post by kingkongfan1 Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:19 pm

thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Post by Admin Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:28 am

what kenzu said
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Post by goku1719 Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:20 am

LOL. But still leaves something to be desired, how do you calculate weapon efficiency? While you're at it, help me out with the battle mechanics and how to calculate losses and such ....

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Post by Admin Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:13 am

goku1719 wrote:LOL. But still leaves something to be desired, how do you calculate weapon efficiency? While you're at it, help me out with the battle mechanics and how to calculate losses and such ....
weapon efficiency is kuwal you pay to get 1 power (or power you get for each 1 kuwal spent, either one works)

basically ( weapon cost + training + current uu market rate ) / weapon power = X
or weapon power / ( weapon cost + training + current uu market rate ) = Y
all that changes with each weapon is cost and weapon power and you're looking for the lowest X (kuwal paid per 1 power) or highest Y (power per 1 kuwal paid)
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Post by Nomad Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:54 am

Thats a good way to look at that Admin.
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Post by goku1719 Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:26 am

Not sure I understand, but whatever works!

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Post by Keinutnai Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:40 am

Kenzu wrote:This thread is part of an Aderan Wars FAQ that answers players questions:

What is the most efficient weapon on Aderan Wars?

In June 2012, it's the mobile artillery (the average UU price was around 375,000 kuwal).
Runners up are Tank (95% efficiency) and MLRS (94% efficiency), while tank is more manpower intensive, and MLRS more kuwal intensive.

UU price = 375,000 kuwal
Name: Strength: Price: Efficiency:
Superweapon 2,650 2,332,000 67%
ICBM Launcher 2,200 1,430,000 81%
MLRS 1,800 864,000 94%
Mobile Artillery 1,450 522,000 100%
Main Battle Tank 1,100 308,000 95%
IFV 800 184000 81%
APC 560 112,000 63%
Heavy Mortar 380 57,000 47%
Grenade Launcher 250 25000 33%
Machine Gun 150 15000 20%
Sniper Rifle 90 11700 12%
Assault Rifle 45 7200 6%
Submachine Gun 20 3600 3%
Automatic Pistol 10 1900 1%
Knife 5 1000 1%


The efficiency of a weapon is not only based on it's price and strength, but also on the price of UU, training cost of soldiers, on the upkeep and also on the time the weapon is kept until its destroyed in the battle.

For simplicity I ignore the lifespan of a weapon and it's upkeep cost (better weapons have higher per point upkeep cost than weaker weapons)
As the UU prices increase, different weapons become more efficient.

The UU price stayed at around 375,000 for over half a year. At this price each soldier costs 525,000. Using the best weapon will allow you to have the highest strike/defense action at the lowest price. The previous table shows weapon efficiency of all weapons at 375,000 kuwal, while the table below shows the best 3 weapons at different UU prices.

Most efficient weapon at different UU prices
UU price range:Best weapon (at lowest UU price)2nd best weapon3rd best weapon
0-215,000 kuwal100% Main Battle Tank96% IFV93% Mobile Artillery
215,000-750,000 kuwal100% Mobile Artillery99.63% Main Battle Tank90% MLRS
375,000 kuwal100% Mobile Artillery95% Main Battle Tank94% MLRS
750,000-1,540,000 kuwal100% MLRS99.93% Mobile Artillery93% ICBM Launcher
1,540,000-2,830,000 kuwal100% ICBM Launcher99.95% MLRS93% Superweapon
2,830,000-10,000,000100% Superweapon100% ICBM Launcher94% MLRS
10,000,000 kuwal and more100% Superweapon89% ICBM Launcher77% MLRS (64% MA, 50% tank)

I realized this whole table has a serious flaw. The efficiencies are correct for all strike missions with the exception of assault. Because when you assault 100% of destroyed weapons are really destroyed, while only 50% of soldiers killed are really killed. The other half only gets wounded and even though wounded are casualties too, after some time, they will be ready to fight again.

Since assaulting causes the bulk of losses for both strike forces and defense forces, it makes sense to make a table for these as well. It will obviously shift the efficiency towards weapons that give more strength per kuwal, which is mobile artillery.

PS: however when facing assassinations, it's better to have a smaller number of units. The table also neglects this fact. This danger is hard to calculate though.
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Post by goku1719 Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:25 pm

Basically, don't go with calculated numbers since all of them have flaws. Go with the configuration that has the least amount of flaws.

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