Re: (TOC) vs (TIE)

by Beldar Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:15 am

oups bad timing for me to be out for work without checking the game at all :p

way too late to hit protection hehe

nevermind i shall see you guys in a few days once i decide vs who i will waste my lil strike bounce

I think i did some damage back while getting hit nevertheless :p cheers

by ian Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:54 pm

Well... Kompur *almost* made it to the ceasefire alive & intact.... almost.

He started with:

288,755 defence supers + IFV's
464,100 spies
491,100 assassins

100,000 farmers
125,000 workers
1,684,180 miners

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He's ended with:

24,254 Defence supers + IFV's
144,503 spies
94,251 assassins

100,000 farmers
86,208 workers
672,617 miners

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His losses - UU rate at 175k:

264,501 defence supers & IFV's - 134,631,009,000 kuwal's worth
319,597 spies - 70,311,340,000 kuwal's worth
396,849 assassins - 87,306,780,000 kuwal's worth
13,792 workers - 2,482,560,000 kuwal's worth
1,011,563 miners - 187,139,155,000 kuwal's worth

Total Damage:

2,006,302 army size
481,870,844,000 kuwal's worth

Its worth noting he only has level 8 weapons tech - so all the IFV's he had were brought from the Black Market (and will need to be brought from there to replace his defence). He's also currently 1,122,880 army size - so lost about 2/3's of his army size Very Happy

He almost made it to the end intact... he was so close, yet it turned out.... he was so far! Oh well Very Happy

by Kenzu Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:22 am

UU price is currently 155k
This is a copy of market rates:

Buy 807,395,000 Kuwal for your 5,209 Untrained
[RATE: 1:155,000] Buy 14,656 Untrained for your 2,550,144,000 Kuwal
[RATE: 1:174,000]

UU price is 155k
NOT 175k

UU are being sold for 174k and no one wants them.
I have today bought uu for 140k.
I have no idea where you are getting your rates from.

The question I am asking myself is, was massing one more player really worth deteriorating the relations with TOC even more?

of course not.

by ian Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:28 am

Kenzu wrote:The question I am asking myself is, was massing one more player really worth deteriorating the relations with TOC even more?

of course not.

Throught out the last 2 weeks when we ve been discussing peace several TIE members have also fallen i.e. Beldar, Deathguard (even though he wasn't in TIE - but he might as well have been given he got massed anyway). Don't complain because TIE keeps fighting right up untill the ceasefire takes effect..... We are acting no differently to how TOC itself is acting...

Edit: Remember Kenzu - TIE spent the better part of 2 - 3 days before this ceasefire was signed waiting for T.O.C to make a decision. Had you been quicker in doing so the ceasefire would have been in effect by now (as opposed to another 6 and a half hours) which would have saved Kompur.

Perhaps next time a quicker response would be in order? I m also sure I need not remind you peace was originally offerred by TIE about 4 weeks+ ago... in which TOC never took us seriously (you didn't even issue any terms whatsoever lol)... so basically any TOC account to have fallen/ been damaged since then is as a result of your own decision at the time.... This war could have ended a lot sooner than it has...

by Lord Ishurue Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:40 am

ian wrote:
Kenzu wrote:The question I am asking myself is, was massing one more player really worth deteriorating the relations with TOC even more?

of course not.

Throught out the last 2 weeks when we ve been discussing peace several TIE members have also fallen i.e. Beldar, Deathguard (even though he wasn't in TIE - but he might as well have been given he got massed anyway). Don't complain because TIE keeps fighting right up untill the ceasefire takes effect..... We are acting no differently to how TOC itself is acting...

We massed Deathguard while he was in TIE . ntm he massed a player when he temporarily left TIE .Lets not go there

by Special Agent 47 Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:44 am

Well it wasn't 1 more player Kenzu. We set the ceasefire by TOC's request. We asked for it weeks ago and were denied. I do not see how continuing to fight up to the ceasefire can or will erode any relations any more then already done.

What saddens me is that Kompur was allowed to have an account where so much was killable. Did no one in his alliance not tell him what terrible danger he was in with an account set up like his was? In the middle of a war no less?

I guess we owe that to you Kenzu, you helped teach TIE that lesson in the first war and we have never forgotten it. Just be more vigalent at teaching your own the same lesson.

by seaborgium Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:55 am

Kenzu wrote:UU price is currently 155k
This is a copy of market rates:

Buy 807,395,000 Kuwal for your 5,209 Untrained
[RATE: 1:155,000] Buy 14,656 Untrained for your 2,550,144,000 Kuwal
[RATE: 1:174,000]

UU price is 155k
NOT 175k

UU are being sold for 174k and no one wants them.
I have today bought uu for 140k.
I have no idea where you are getting your rates from.

The question I am asking myself is, was massing one more player really worth deteriorating the relations with TOC even more?

of course not.

Please tell me your not that retarded

Kuwal 2,529,881,250 [18 Jul] 01:07
Kuwal 1,560,935,106 [18 Jul] 01:07
Kuwal 970,037,393 [18 Jul] 01:10
Kuwal 2,531,336,250 [18 Jul] 01:10
Kuwal 2,060,972,580 [18 Jul] 01:11
Kuwal 872,930,160 [18 Jul] 05:16
Kuwal 1,358,172,660 [18 Jul] 07:59
Kuwal 3,380,450,000 [18 Jul] 08:08
Kuwal 3,380,935,000 [18 Jul] 08:08
Kuwal 1,444,262,827 [18 Jul] 09:44
Kuwal 484,904,940 [18 Jul] 15:37
Kuwal 1,260,955,380 [18 Jul] 15:44

all of them have been 174k or better. Thats just todays sales.

by Lord Ishurue Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:56 am

Special Agent 47 wrote:

What saddens me is that Kompur was allowed to have an account where so much was killable. Did no one in his alliance not tell him what terrible danger he was in with an account set up like his was? In the middle of a war no less?

I guess we owe that to you Kenzu, you helped teach TIE that lesson in the first war and we have never forgotten it. Just be more vigalent at teaching your own the same lesson.

In the first war ian warned a lot of TIE members about the dangers of miners . Same case with this situation .
Kenzu strongly enforces the dangers of excessive miners & workers . He even suggested for me to untrain half of my workers . 1.5million workers I can still get hit for 4.5k per hit . but worst case i *might* lose 300k .

I guess sometimes players do not think it is a serious thing to have a lot of miners dispite warnings .

by Lord Ishurue Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:10 am

seaborgium wrote:
Kenzu wrote:UU price is currently 155k
This is a copy of market rates:

Buy 807,395,000 Kuwal for your 5,209 Untrained
[RATE: 1:155,000] Buy 14,656 Untrained for your 2,550,144,000 Kuwal
[RATE: 1:174,000]

UU price is 155k
NOT 175k

UU are being sold for 174k and no one wants them.
I have today bought uu for 140k.
I have no idea where you are getting your rates from.

The question I am asking myself is, was massing one more player really worth deteriorating the relations with TOC even more?

of course not.

all of them have been 174k or better. Thats just todays sales.

your both welcome . i bought some UUs and sold some not many like 10k UUs i sold and bought 5k or so . . don't i get a thank you Embarassed

?

CeaseFIRE , so far on this game 10/10 times ends the war . Its just the pace changer or sets the mood for peace . What do u guys say we all chill out and continue with the peace negotiations and not waste time arguing about UUs .

by Kenzu Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:11 am

Lord Ishurue wrote:
Special Agent 47 wrote:

What saddens me is that Kompur was allowed to have an account where so much was killable. Did no one in his alliance not tell him what terrible danger he was in with an account set up like his was? In the middle of a war no less?

I guess we owe that to you Kenzu, you helped teach TIE that lesson in the first war and we have never forgotten it. Just be more vigalent at teaching your own the same lesson.

In the first war ian warned a lot of TIE members about the dangers of miners . Same case with this situation .
Kenzu strongly enforces the dangers of excessive miners & workers . He even suggested for me to untrain half of my workers . 1.5million workers I can still get hit for 4.5k per hit . but worst case i *might* lose 300k .

I guess sometimes players do not think it is a serious thing to have a lot of miners dispite warnings .

Thanks Ishurue for clarifying it to them.

It's hilarious how ian accuses me of not warning my members when his people suffered greatly by loosing 15% of their total population in the first WR-TIE war, 7 million out of 8 million casualties suffered by TIE were miners. Does this fact alone mean that ian didn't warn them?

Lord Ishurue wrote:

your both welcome . i bought some UUs and sold some not many like 10k UUs i sold and bought 5k or so . . don't i get a thank you ?

CeaseFIRE , so far on this game 10/10 times ends the war . Its just the pace changer or sets the mood for peace . What do u guys say we all chill out and continue with the peace negotiations and not waste time arguing about UUs .

OK!

by Special Agent 47 Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:18 am

Well it was a bit different wasn't it Kenzu? Without GD breaking defenses for you, you would never have been able to touch those income units. Same can not be said in this case so many months later.

That said if they were properly warned then I can resolve any sorrow I felt killing this poor guy as he was warned.

@ Ish,,,, A-Men brother!!!

by Beldar Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:49 pm

Kenzu wrote:
The question I am asking myself is, was massing one more player really worth deteriorating the relations with TOC even more?
of course not.

no reason to complain really...

I did not complain when i got massed cause this is a war game and it is part of playing it...

Since all sides agreed for an 00.00 today ceasefire for a week, what's the problem with hitting just before this time?

Btw, i hope i did not hit any TOC player today, i went out of Protection and spent about 1500 AT to rebuild a bit - i did hit for kuwal or UU quite a lot lot of people... the list is pretty huge, did try to avoid TOC players though.

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