Repair Costs

Admin wrote:suggestion section?

and about repairs, it's not my call. I personally think it's balanced, but this is something I will leave to the players to decide.
If people say they want lower repairs to promote activity and farming then i'll do it.

If people say they want higher repairs then i'll need to hear damn good reasons to make that happen though.

Nomad wrote:ok explain more your idea with repair cost?

1. Is it a 1 time build? with no enhancements?
2. Does it effect strike and defense equally?
3. Is there an ongoing cost or a static cost?
4. In the long run, will we have to adjust it back because massing has become to cheap?

Keep in mind, it takes only about 15 hits to 0 a defense now, and you want to make it cheaper to repair those strike weapons?

All I ask is you look at more then just your situation and just your account.

I think cost are pretty balanced, but I'll admitt I'm in raiding mode so large strike repair is not something I am experianced with.

Zeroager wrote:
The repair cost is too expensive, even larger player with larger force will sometime struggle with their immense repair costs.
Many think this is a good thing, me included. Alot of people are sick of games like TGW/SGW where you can mass all day long with no reguards to your own account. This game forces a bit of stratagy by limiting resources and having high costs to war.

All I'm saying that repair facility should be put in to lower the repair cost by 10% per level.

That's how it works. If there is no Repair Facility, everyone will have to struggle with their repair costs, including their loss of soldiers.

10% subtract is not enough to start massing yet, but 50% is enough to start massing.

Since there is only 3 level of construction yards. So there will be 3 level of repair facility.

So if we win with number 1, it will be 40% subtracted, but if we win number 2, it will be 30% subtract.

Since Repair Facility is so expensive... but they still have to pay more money to repair if there is no repair facility or decrease 10%
50% reduction is cost is entirely to much, lets look at something much smaller first. Now looking back on your idea I understand the principle better now, just thing the amounts are entirely to high for reduction

You... your questions has nothing to do with my account or my forces. It has something to do with Aderanwars, and repair costs is too high. I don't think it is balanced at all.
It was not meant as a stab at you, or anything personaly toward you, hope it didnt come across as such. My point is, I have seen it to often in the past that players, and player bases ask for things that make sense at that time (like asking for cheaper repairs now) only to find out later in the progression of the game that it really was a bad idea because it leads to a situation like in other games where massings are cheap and easy, and there is no way to defend them. That said, Admin and Aderan wars has done a magnificent job so far of controling many things to not allow this to happen here.

Zeroager wrote:Very Well, 5% per level for repair facility total 15% deduction.

Admin wrote:ok not trying to imply i support this fully but i think the suggestion has merit with the building thing if the numbers are done correctly.

some things to consider/other suggestions:
- actual cost of repair facility? (real numbers, not just saying "a lot" or "a little")
- upkeep of that building to keep giving you the bonus or just one time cost?
- % cheaper always the same or goes up and down depending on how many weapons you use? (i.e. someone with 10k weps saves 10% repairs but someone with 20k weps only saves 8% repairs?)
- attack and defense weapons cheaper by the same %? If not then how much difference? [such an update heavily benefits attackers and massers]
- maybe allowing you to salvage some % of destroyed weapons depending on level (basically if your def with 30k weps is massed, you can recover 5-10% by only paying maybe 50% of original cost, only works with massing, not when getting sabbed) [such an update benefits defenses more than strikes as defenses will get massed more often than strikes]

Nomad wrote:
Good stuff admin, my take on it,,,,,
1. can you give us a list of other constructions? I think the first one should be rather cheap, second pretty stiff, and the last real darn expensive, but actual amounts I'd like to have something to compare to.
well it's gonna be pretty much as you know it with con yard level 1. First level is some cost, so 1 mil, then all other buildings cost logarithmically anywhere in between that con yard level and the next one. Reprogramming costs 600 mil, con yard 2 costs 10 bil
2. I am all for upkeep costs to slow game progression and bigger accounts, but not sure if its really applicable in this situation. unless you can "turn it off" it could be a real bane in times of peace.
well turning off, would mean that i have to add some time delay between turning off and on, which would be a pain, so i guess we scratch the upkeep idea
3. I want to say same for all,,,, but I like the idea of tiering it somewhat. Each level would signifigantly raise the amount of weapons I would assume. Also how to deal with it in a year when people have 1 mill weapons and such?
eh base it off how much weapons top people have, that's not gonna be a problem making it keep up with the growth of the game
4. I was thinking on this alot, I think it should favor the defenders. attackers leave weapons behind, where defenders are on their home turf, but could go either way. Even, or defensive favor, but see no need to favor strike with this.
obviously NOT to favor strike, but if to favor def then how much
5. same as above, or maybe make this an option only to defensive units, and make the % recoverable go down with time. So if you come in 30 min after a massing you can get 30% back, but after 12 hrs you can only recover 10% due to weathering, scavanging, etc. if you wait 5 days after a massing, you shouldnt get anything back honestly
shit that's good, how come i didn't think of that

Admin wrote:ok not trying to imply i support this fully but i think the suggestion has merit with the building thing if the numbers are done correctly.

some things to consider/other suggestions:
- actual cost of repair facility? (real numbers, not just saying "a lot" or "a little")
- upkeep of that building to keep giving you the bonus or just one time cost?
- % cheaper always the same or goes up and down depending on how many weapons you use? (i.e. someone with 10k weps saves 10% repairs but someone with 20k weps only saves 8% repairs?)
- attack and defense weapons cheaper by the same %? If not then how much difference? [such an update heavily benefits attackers and massers]
- maybe allowing you to salvage some % of destroyed weapons depending on level (basically if your def with 30k weps is massed, you can recover 5-10% by only paying maybe 50% of original cost, only works with massing, not when getting sabbed) [such an update benefits defenses more than strikes as defenses will get massed more often than strikes]

Survivor wrote:well.. no need to get emo
I'm sure that one will work... and as i said i like the repair facility idea but i think that there will be no point building it considering the price is too expensive to even consider going past lvl 1...
other than that my def solely depends on my activity and the damage it deals to enemy weapons.

Survivor wrote:oh lol i was joking.
btw i dont see your reply to my suggestion... right below this topic

Ps i edited the post a bit before u quoted