Whats going to happen to AW?

Does admin log in anymore at all? A couple months ago Admins brother logged in and told me he was going to be launching a new ad campaign to revive the game, but nothing has happened of yet.


Has anyone discussed this with them?


Are there any speculations you would like to share?

the answer to your questions is: probably not

Domain Name: ADERANWARS.COM
Registrar: NEW DREAM NETWORK, LLC
Whois Server: whois.dreamhost.com
Referral URL: http://www.dreamhost.com
Name Server: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM
Name Server: NS2.DREAMHOST.COM
Name Server: NS3.DREAMHOST.COM
Status: ok
Updated Date: 11-dec-2013
Creation Date: 01-jan-2009
Expiration Date: 01-jan-2015

Dieded at that date I'd assume   

austin5650 wrote:Does admin log in anymore at all?  A couple months ago Admins brother logged in and told me he was going to be launching a new ad campaign to revive the game, but nothing has happened of yet.


Has anyone discussed this with them?


Are there any speculations you would like to share?  

He has still not made the update, which is absolutely necessary for the ad campaign. I am still waiting for it. And by now I really have no idea when he is going to do it. I know he has a lot of work, but still. Eventually I want to see it.

Kenzu wrote:

austin5650 wrote:Does admin log in anymore at all?  A couple months ago Admins brother logged in and told me he was going to be launching a new ad campaign to revive the game, but nothing has happened of yet.


Has anyone discussed this with them?


Are there any speculations you would like to share?  

He has still not made the update, which is absolutely necessary for the ad campaign. I am still waiting for it. And by now I really have no idea when he is going to do it. I know he has a lot of work, but still. Eventually I want to see it.

I would hope maybe he could pass AW onto you then? or perhaps sell it to a loyal player to take charge?

austin5650 wrote:

Kenzu wrote:

austin5650 wrote:Does admin log in anymore at all?  A couple months ago Admins brother logged in and told me he was going to be launching a new ad campaign to revive the game, but nothing has happened of yet.


Has anyone discussed this with them?


Are there any speculations you would like to share?  

He has still not made the update, which is absolutely necessary for the ad campaign. I am still waiting for it. And by now I really have no idea when he is going to do it. I know he has a lot of work, but still. Eventually I want to see it.

I would hope maybe he could pass AW onto you then? or perhaps sell it to a loyal player to take charge?

I am not that good at coding yet, and the game will never be sold.
Because if it was ever sold, we would not be able to guarantee it to continue forever.
And I still want to see it become a big game one day.

By big I don't mean as big as games of corporations, but 1000 people logging in at least once a day, that is a good and realistic goal to achieve (but it requires the update and then some time to build up the playerbase again).

Any news or updates on Admin being able to run the updates and ad campaigns again?

games like this won't ever get to 1000 a day anymore.
theres so many tablet/cell phone games to play that have better interaction and portability then a web based game.

seaborgium wrote:games like this won't ever get to 1000 a day anymore.
theres so many tablet/cell phone games to play that have better interaction and portability then a web based game.

I believe there are actually many games like these that have over 1000 players a day. And even Aderan Wars could reach it one day if the game is set up in a proper way, which leads to more revenue than ad spending (For example +1.1$ per 1$ spent). Then it would be only a matter of time and money spent to reach this number.

This was easier before, but now the competition is more fierce, and the set up of the game needs to improve to become more attractive, easier to understand, and make in-game purchases more convenient (currently it's not convenient enough, and some people didn't even know about the feature when I asked them before). This is pretty much the reason why the add campaign has to be postponed. Because if you gain merely 0.8$ from each 1$ you spend, you won't be able to grow indefinitely.

But I don't think the competition is more fierce because of cell phone games. I think it's the commercial regular PC games that compete with browser games.

I don't think cell phone games compete with browser games.
I personally have absolutely no interest in the shallow games they have on phones.

Also I think the interaction with other players in apps and the sort of games is very poor. Usually merely something like friend visited you which gave you some bonus resources, everything revolving about annoying your facebook friends and spending money. Very commercialized on top of that.

But in browser games like Aderan Wars there is much more deep interaction, be it treaties, alliances, wars, personal issues that got to be solved and what not.

I also think that once the novelty of the games wears of, and as people are getting more mature they will be less and less interested in these kind of things and there might be a surge in the interest of more deep games. (Cell phone games will of course always be played by the new kids that get smart phones for the first time in their lives).

That's at least how I see it.

I see your point Kenzu, but you have to look around, newer games then aderan wars in the browser arena are doing far better bc of the way this was handled.

Kenzu wrote:

seaborgium wrote:games like this won't ever get to 1000 a day anymore.
theres so many tablet/cell phone games to play that have better interaction and portability then a web based game.

I believe there are actually many games like these that have over 1000 players a day. And even Aderan Wars could reach it one day if the game is set up in a proper way, which leads to more revenue than ad spending (For example +1.1$ per 1$ spent). Then it would be only a matter of time and money spent to reach this number.

This was easier before, but now the competition is more fierce, and the set up of the game needs to improve to become more attractive, easier to understand, and make in-game purchases more convenient (currently it's not convenient enough, and some people didn't even know about the feature when I asked them before). This is pretty much the reason why the add campaign has to be postponed. Because if you gain merely 0.8$ from each 1$ you spend, you won't be able to grow indefinitely.

But I don't think the competition is more fierce because of cell phone games. I think it's the commercial regular PC games that compete with browser games.

I don't think cell phone games compete with browser games.
I personally have absolutely no interest in the shallow games they have on phones.

Also I think the interaction with other players in apps and the sort of games is very poor. Usually merely something like friend visited you which gave you some bonus resources, everything revolving about annoying your facebook friends and spending money. Very commercialized on top of that.

But in browser games like Aderan Wars there is much more deep interaction, be it treaties, alliances, wars, personal issues that got to be solved and what not.

I also think that once the novelty of the games wears of, and as people are getting more mature they will be less and less interested in these kind of things and there might be a surge in the interest of more deep games. (Cell phone games will of course always be played by the new kids that get smart phones for the first time in their lives).

That's at least how I see it.

You personally have no interest in those games.
But it is also true that few people have interest in Aderan Wars.
I doubt you can deny this.

Maybe you should stop being proud of Aderan Wars and start being humble and learn from other games.
The whole game is simple and plain, and we just need to repeat a few steps to grow. No strategy, no planning, no tactics and no thinking.
I have fun looking at large numbers, but not many others do.

Wait.. You guys are actually saying we will never get android version.. ?
I want the conclusion of this thread. Takes too much time judging by the thread title.

moky wrote:

Kenzu wrote:

seaborgium wrote:games like this won't ever get to 1000 a day anymore.
theres so many tablet/cell phone games to play that have better interaction and portability then a web based game.

I believe there are actually many games like these that have over 1000 players a day. And even Aderan Wars could reach it one day if the game is set up in a proper way, which leads to more revenue than ad spending (For example +1.1$ per 1$ spent). Then it would be only a matter of time and money spent to reach this number.

This was easier before, but now the competition is more fierce, and the set up of the game needs to improve to become more attractive, easier to understand, and make in-game purchases more convenient (currently it's not convenient enough, and some people didn't even know about the feature when I asked them before). This is pretty much the reason why the add campaign has to be postponed. Because if you gain merely 0.8$ from each 1$ you spend, you won't be able to grow indefinitely.

But I don't think the competition is more fierce because of cell phone games. I think it's the commercial regular PC games that compete with browser games.

I don't think cell phone games compete with browser games.
I personally have absolutely no interest in the shallow games they have on phones.

Also I think the interaction with other players in apps and the sort of games is very poor. Usually merely something like friend visited you which gave you some bonus resources, everything revolving about annoying your facebook friends and spending money. Very commercialized on top of that.

But in browser games like Aderan Wars there is much more deep interaction, be it treaties, alliances, wars, personal issues that got to be solved and what not.

I also think that once the novelty of the games wears of, and as people are getting more mature they will be less and less interested in these kind of things and there might be a surge in the interest of more deep games. (Cell phone games will of course always be played by the new kids that get smart phones for the first time in their lives).

That's at least how I see it.

You personally have no interest in those games.
But it is also true that few people have interest in Aderan Wars.
I doubt you can deny this.

Maybe you should stop being proud of Aderan Wars and start being humble and learn from other games.
The whole game is simple and plain, and we just need to repeat a few steps to grow. No strategy, no planning, no tactics and no thinking.
I have fun looking at large numbers, but not many others do.

Kenzu, as much as I want you to be right, I think AW should look into the possibility of making an android/OS versions of the game to draw in the younger crowd, I dont think as this new generation gets older they will look for deeper games, we are the last of a great generation in online gaming, the shallow games are here to stay and we have to find a way to work around it.

There are people who would love this game, Kamatyan, loved it he even got his wife to play, but without the updates, ad campaign and things really needed to maintain it looks like a ghost town.

I also miss the ads you guys used to have, I discovered so many cool online comics that way.

austin5650 wrote:

moky wrote:

Kenzu wrote:

seaborgium wrote:games like this won't ever get to 1000 a day anymore.
theres so many tablet/cell phone games to play that have better interaction and portability then a web based game.

I believe there are actually many games like these that have over 1000 players a day. And even Aderan Wars could reach it one day if the game is set up in a proper way, which leads to more revenue than ad spending (For example +1.1$ per 1$ spent). Then it would be only a matter of time and money spent to reach this number.

This was easier before, but now the competition is more fierce, and the set up of the game needs to improve to become more attractive, easier to understand, and make in-game purchases more convenient (currently it's not convenient enough, and some people didn't even know about the feature when I asked them before). This is pretty much the reason why the add campaign has to be postponed. Because if you gain merely 0.8$ from each 1$ you spend, you won't be able to grow indefinitely.

But I don't think the competition is more fierce because of cell phone games. I think it's the commercial regular PC games that compete with browser games.

I don't think cell phone games compete with browser games.
I personally have absolutely no interest in the shallow games they have on phones.

Also I think the interaction with other players in apps and the sort of games is very poor. Usually merely something like friend visited you which gave you some bonus resources, everything revolving about annoying your facebook friends and spending money. Very commercialized on top of that.

But in browser games like Aderan Wars there is much more deep interaction, be it treaties, alliances, wars, personal issues that got to be solved and what not.

I also think that once the novelty of the games wears of, and as people are getting more mature they will be less and less interested in these kind of things and there might be a surge in the interest of more deep games. (Cell phone games will of course always be played by the new kids that get smart phones for the first time in their lives).

That's at least how I see it.

You personally have no interest in those games.
But it is also true that few people have interest in Aderan Wars.
I doubt you can deny this.

Maybe you should stop being proud of Aderan Wars and start being humble and learn from other games.
The whole game is simple and plain, and we just need to repeat a few steps to grow. No strategy, no planning, no tactics and no thinking.
I have fun looking at large numbers, but not many others do.

Kenzu, as much as I want you to be right, I think AW should look into the possibility of making an android/OS versions of the game to draw in the younger crowd, I dont think as this new generation gets older they will look for deeper games, we are the last of a great generation in online gaming, the shallow games are here to stay and we have to find a way to work around it.    

There are people who would love this game, Kamatyan, loved it he even got his wife to play, but without the updates, ad campaign and things really needed to maintain it looks like a ghost town.  

I also miss the ads you guys used to have, I discovered so many cool online comics that way.

I personally have absolutely nothing against it, and would welcome the addition of an android version. The greatest problem is that admin, who is the main coder for the game does currently not have the time to make this addition. It's not something you can do in a couple hours.

A pity there is no one right now who could do it.

@moky
trust me, we have done plenty of research looking how other games do it, to improve the experience for users. One thing we learned from other games is to use icons and pictures. Those who play Aderan Wars since day 1 know that in the beginning there were no pictures at all, only text and numbers. Over time we have improved on that, and we have also changed the way people can get additional things in Aderan Wars. Before you had to make a payment each time you wanted to get something on Aderan Wars, this was a very rigid way of obtaining items and it also increased the fees we had to pay to Paypal, because more transactions had to be made by the same person if he wanted to have multiple things at once, however with the introduction of gold that we learned from other games, people could buy more gold at once and use it as they needed and didn't have to make a payment each time they wanted something anymore.

Don't even remember why we got rid of ads. Probably because we felt that it ruins the immersion when playing the game.

Shallow, click on box & watch it explode, & flash amazing shiny colors is the new age quick game era, for more advance gamers its all bout ps4 and its rivals plus high end PC gaming.

imo only chance a game like aderan could go on is if shallowness could be added in, sorta like FINAL FANTASY VII / 7 yes FFVII final fantasy seven omg remake news wow wow ,  The card game it had .

if Admin made another ADWs server but made it card game based ( the shallow part), complex part ( for all yall WORLD OF WARCraft , Halo, Call of Duty Action gods & goddesses ) leveling up your cards.


quick example. Free/ sign up players have 3 card base ( pay SS packages upgrade to 12 card base ) ofc free players can do surveys etc put in work if money is tight to get up to 12 card base.

i have no solid idea at moment . but gist is every player levels up "cards" when u mass for a war , the defending play puts there cards guarding their realm in defense mode etc.


btw sorry if thoughts are all over on this card idea , basically was conjuring it up as i was writing, and also please don't delete the idiotic rambling , i mentioned popular games in hopes if players that play them were web searching, those key words they may stumble apon this site etc.

 ff7 card game vid

  ff9 card game vid

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