Spying free

Well since you like IRL so much i think you should add this.

Make it free to spy people or at least make it so you can spy 5 times before you loose one covert turn.

60 turns makes it hard for many especially for the smaller guys who wanna grow or people in my area who wanna be around.

I mean when i look around to see def or UU out i pretty much end up having used my covert turns before i even had a chance to find any target worth hitting.

I now have alot of ST and turns and not able to use them to grow usefull because i runs out of covert turns before i stand a chance finding anyone.

IRL we have techs even in older days there was techs that made it so spying was done easy and without losses or cost.

At least do something so we have a chance here which i feel we do not.

why not simply increase number of CT?

how about doubling max amount of CT and doubling number of CT needed for sabotaging and assassinating?

this increases your capacity for spying without increasing the number of sabotage or assassination missions you can do.

Of course it will take longer for a player to recover his CT if he was sabotaging or assassinating.

Maybe CT capacity can be increased from 60 to 150
and CT cost for sabotage and assassination doubled.

double the max CT capacity
double the assasination and sab CT cost
double the CT production per turn
and
keep 1 CT per recon.

this way u recon twice as much and the sab/assasination job is absolutely the same.

+Likes these ideas.

I like ghyogods idea even more than my own.

Liked.

I suggested a while back adding CT to the Voting page rewards... so bump to that idea

btw, does any of you guys have problems with not enough CT, when using them on spying only?

Kenzu wrote:btw, does any of you guys have problems with not enough CT, when using them on spying only?

Constantly.

Many of us who keep up to date detailed records of alliances and the server in general do.

hmm, tech to have a % chance of the spy mission not costing any CT's
I'd be ok with that

maybe in 5% increments until 75-90% chance, so basically what you want ...

Admin wrote:hmm, tech to have a % chance of the spy mission not costing any CT's
I'd be ok with that

maybe in 5% increments until 75-90% chance, so basically what you want ...

In my opinion 90% is way to high. I would think 50% would be the highest possible but the idea has merit either way.

hmm something else to spend kuwal on......

And what happen in this?

And btw I still mean normal spying only should be free maybe do it so its free in a certain range for the user?

I mean if the player is this much bigger or smaller then it would cost a normal 1 covert turn to make sure the small people can't get spied on by the bigger people without cost and vica versa just to make it fair.

free spying on 0 def? or covert 1,000% stronger?

or using Admin's idea,,,, the more "over" someones covert you are the higher the % it cost you nothing CT wise?

1,000% someones cov seems a little......insane. 250% and then yeah that suddenly seems a lot more reasonable doesnt it

so you think if your covert is 2 and 1/2 times stronger then mine it should be free?


I dont think so personally. If we are comparable in techs and levels, and I have 1 million spies and you 2.5 millino, then it should still cost you. 1 million spies is alot of covert power.


We are talking about free spy ops, so the % over should be massive and 2 and a half times is not that great a feat.

JMO

Admin wrote:hmm, tech to have a % chance of the spy mission not costing any CT's
I'd be ok with that

maybe in 5% increments until 75-90% chance, so basically what you want ...

Either update equitable for all, either let it as it is. I sure wouldn't like some huge accounts to raid more than me because they have infinite covert ability to spy targets until they get bored. If you do this thing percent wise, only a few who started long ago will have this ability.

The solution has been posted somewhere:
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Double the CT cap
Double the CT generating rate
Double massing rates (the CTs used in massing attack)
Keep the spying rate
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This way, people do more unoffensive actions while the game war settings remain the same.

Nomad wrote:free spying on 0 def? or covert 1,000% stronger?

or using Admin's idea,,,, the more "over" someones covert you are the higher the % it cost you nothing CT wise?

No what I was thinking was like any player thats withing 2 times your size is free.

So if your 10mill that means free from 5 mill to 20 mill lol something like that.

Rest cost.

well that's one thing I wouldn't want to have, this certain range of free spying

during war operations sometimes lack of CT's/amount of people online is a major decision whether or not to spy every few minutes or not

Void wrote:

Admin wrote:hmm, tech to have a % chance of the spy mission not costing any CT's
I'd be ok with that

maybe in 5% increments until 75-90% chance, so basically what you want ...

Either update equitable for all, either let it as it is. I sure wouldn't like some huge accounts to raid more than me because they have infinite covert ability to spy targets until they get bored. If you do this thing percent wise, only a few who started long ago will have this ability.

The solution has been posted somewhere:
_________________
Double the CT cap
Double the CT generating rate
Double massing rates (the CTs used in massing attack)
Keep the spying rate
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This way, people do more unoffensive actions while the game war settings remain the same.

Big players don't get to do that because those that raid are usually our of ST and those that don't simply won't.

ST's - even though we all hate them, they're good for the game

Nimras wrote:

Nomad wrote:free spying on 0 def? or covert 1,000% stronger?

or using Admin's idea,,,, the more "over" someones covert you are the higher the % it cost you nothing CT wise?

No what I was thinking was like any player thats withing 2 times your size is free.

So if your 10mill that means free from 5 mill to 20 mill lol something like that.

Rest cost.

How would that be fair to people like SA47 or Rflash?

Nobody's even close to their army size so they would be unaffected by the update while others may use and abuse it.

I say, spying should NOT be free, and covert turns should remain the same. They are a limit and they're there for a reason

well for me its never been a problem since I do "ground work".

All my normal farms have been spy oped and listed with the amount of non touchable UU so I can look at them in the battlefield pages and know how many UU they have out.

How about this:

On covert turns there is a PRODUCTION LIMIT. Your realm will only produce covert turns automatically if the amount you have is below the production limit. But you can use the Trade Center to trade for more covert turns. But your realm won't automatically produce them until the amount you have gos below the poduction limit.

Kyora have a much higher production limit OR you research more and Kyora gets it cheaper.

Sound good?

If you can buy CT from market, can you sell them as well?

I dont think they should be sold to avoid monopoly. much like STs

I think in the trade center covert turns should be the opposite of supply turns, supply turns you can only trade them for other resourses and covert turns can only be traded for.

Basically what Kingofshinobis1 says.