Aderan Wars
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

AE formula

5 posters

Go down

AE formula Empty AE formula

Post by Vesper Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:31 am

Hey i worked out a AE formula that is mostly accurate but not fool proof. Its like .5% off give or take on a few people. Admin can you post some official formula for calculating your AE based off of average army size and your army size? It would be helpful for calculating peoples incomes and knowing what your AE will be before and after you buy bulk UU. I know most people that buy 1mil UU take a wild guess at what their new AE would be after midnight. Any hints or tips you can give would be great Smile My basic equation without the numbers is exponential. If you could tell me what "a" and "b" are in (y= ax^b) It would be very helpful. I have some guesses but they dont make sense since i woiuld think you would have nice even numbers for game formulas to make it easy on yourself. Unless you intentionally made it ridiculously hard to figure it ouf by adding 10 decimal places after each number. If you want to talk over msn i can give you my current equation and maybe you could give me tips or tell me how wrong it is Razz
Vesper
Vesper
Aderan Assassin
Aderan Assassin

Alliance : Commonwealth
Number of posts : 518
Registration date : 2009-08-11

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by kingkongfan1 Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:54 pm

that sounds like a good idea to me... LOL
kingkongfan1
kingkongfan1
Coalition Officer
Coalition Officer

ID : kingkongfan1(98)
Alliance : [The Marauder's Imperium]
Age : 56
Number of posts : 1387
Location : Skull Island
Registration date : 2010-01-28

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by Vesper Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:44 pm

Admin i read somewhere that you use a log formula which logs can be rearranged into exponential. If you could give me 1 of the 2 missing variables i can figure out the other 1 Smile

Its pretty much the only formula I cant get exact.
Vesper
Vesper
Aderan Assassin
Aderan Assassin

Alliance : Commonwealth
Number of posts : 518
Registration date : 2009-08-11

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by Admin Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:18 pm

https://aderanwars.forumotion.com/released-updates-f24/dropping-min-ae-limit-t604.htm

anything else?
it's not like THAT is something i've kept secret
Admin
Admin
Admin

Number of posts : 4363
Registration date : 2008-08-18

http://www.aderanwars.com

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by Nigatsu_Aka Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:22 am

Hey man... how many people do you have on average counting towards the AE formula? Is it arround 400?... because a value arround that number resulted for my AE value (i calculated the average for the first 13 pages)... if it is that, then that is kinda bullshit... because from page 8 there are probably people who logon extremely rarely or not at all.

AE formula Aefuu11

I uploaded a chart to show what a big difference is to calculate the AE for 400 accounts and for 240 counting towards the average size.

The blue curve:
You can see that the accounts with armies beween 1.8mil and 4mil (most of the "active") are totaly screwed up while the more "inactive" accounts count towards the AE, because that is the area where the function drops the most.
You can see that the income for those accounts drops to 40%, while the biggest account drops to only 31%... the biggest having ~2 times more UU than the 6mil dudes.

As a comparison:
the 1.5mil dude will have ~1.38mil units "producing"
the 3mil dude will have 1.65mil units "producing"
the 6mil dude will have 2.4mil units "producing"
the 13mil dude will have ~4mil units "producing"

The pink curve:
If you calculate the AE for the first 8 pages only, the curve is situated upper and the majority of the accounts will be less affected by the "inactives".

the 1.5mil dude will have all units "producing"
the 3mil dude will have 2.1mil units "producing"
the 6mil dude will have 3mil units "producing"
the 13mil dude will have 4.85mil units "producing"


OK, all this gibrish means nothing but i notice that most of the accounts are situated on the wrong part of the curve. Good game, for those who are more then 6-10 times bigger than the average counting towards the AE. AE formula Icon_wink

If they also have some inactive multies to influence the AE during wars, then good for them... once more (because they are on the less steep part of the curve their AE varies very slow). AE formula Icon_wink
Nigatsu_Aka
Nigatsu_Aka
Aderan Assassin
Aderan Assassin

ID : I no longer have an account. Taking a break.
Number of posts : 526
Registration date : 2009-01-19

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by Admin Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:26 pm

AE only considers the middle 50% of active players
Admin
Admin
Admin

Number of posts : 4363
Registration date : 2008-08-18

http://www.aderanwars.com

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by Nomad Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:21 pm

Really? I thought it was All "active" accounts?

active by what ever measure you use to define the word.

So the low 25% and the high 25% are not even in the equation?
Nomad
Nomad
Alliance Leader
Alliance Leader

ID : WORD OF THE DAY
Hipocracy
hy·poc·ri·sy
Show Spelled[hi-pok-ruh-see]
–noun, plural -sies.

1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behavior, esp the pretense of virtue and piety
3. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.

Number of posts : 4259
Location : Everywhere and nowhere at all.
Registration date : 2008-12-17

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by Admin Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:30 am

Nomad wrote:So the low 25% and the high 25% are not even in the equation?
technically they are, cos if the top 5 people would delete right now then the middle 50% would still move down, if you get what I mean.

But to calculate the mean army size it ignores the values of the top and bottom 25%.
Admin
Admin
Admin

Number of posts : 4363
Registration date : 2008-08-18

http://www.aderanwars.com

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by Nomad Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:51 am

yeah, I got what you mean and it makes sense
Nomad
Nomad
Alliance Leader
Alliance Leader

ID : WORD OF THE DAY
Hipocracy
hy·poc·ri·sy
Show Spelled[hi-pok-ruh-see]
–noun, plural -sies.

1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behavior, esp the pretense of virtue and piety
3. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.

Number of posts : 4259
Location : Everywhere and nowhere at all.
Registration date : 2008-12-17

Back to top Go down

AE formula Empty Re: AE formula

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum