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Post by Kenzu Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:35 pm

I would like to see people can upload profile pictures, which will appear on their userpage
100x100, 150x150 or 200x200

Furthermore it wouldn't be a bad idea, if people could post a line or two about themselves.

People would write things like:
"Follow me my children and I lead you to victory against GDI"
"Don't take my kuwal, or else I mass you"
"I am a peaceful trader, don't go to war with me"
"Looking for an alliance"
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Post by Kira Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:37 pm

oh .. hm.. some stuff you mentioned must belong to the forum (avatar, ...)
but the basic idea is quite good.. yeah
I mean .. like in bitefight .. the alliances should have a description and castle.. for the castle you need to add money in the vault ..
and for the users, they have descriptions ( +text formatting)

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Post by Nomad Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:04 am

I completelt disagree with the first since it will eat up bandwidth, and make mobile log in harder. Second idea I would love to see and said the same in your other thread, to bad you beat me to it here.


Oh, and the fact it can be abused(Porn, cursing, etc), if it has to have permission then it eats up admins time.
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Post by Admin Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:36 am

Nomad wrote:I completelt disagree with the first since it will eat up bandwidth, and make mobile log in harder. Second idea I would love to see and said the same in your other thread, to bad you beat me to it here.


Oh, and the fact it can be abused(Porn, cursing, etc), if it has to have permission then it eats up admins time.
well tbh I spent some time thinking about the mobile thingy and probably the best idea so far I had was to create a subfolder for the main pages that people go to when on the phone, bank, train, armory.

Well about abuse, that's simple and a no brainer.
Put up a report system, and if someone gets reported, i look at it and either remove it if it's justified somewhat.
If someone reports too often and most of them are reported even though someone is just being way too sensible without being tolerant enough towards others, then they will get their report privilege revoked.

plus technically i dont even have to bother about checking it myself, could be easily done that the users themselves say what's acceptable and what's not
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Post by Nomad Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:41 am

If you find it acceptable, and the coding justifiable, then go for it.


I would like to see some sort of guidelines, and maybe a way to block/turn off certain ones or all of them.

Example, extreme yes, but still an example

Player A has a swastica in his pic, player B is jewish and most of his family were lost in the halocaust. The general public allows the image. Now what is player B to do?
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Post by Admin Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:09 am

Nomad wrote:Player A has a swastica in his pic, player B is jewish and most of his family were lost in the halocaust. The general public allows the image. Now what is player B to do?
be tolerant and do themselves a favor and not open their stats page/mass target player until they change it
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Post by Kenzu Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:36 am

Nomad wrote:I completelt disagree with the first since it will eat up bandwidth, and make mobile log in harder. Second idea I would love to see and said the same in your other thread, to bad you beat me to it here.


Oh, and the fact it can be abused(Porn, cursing, etc), if it has to have permission then it eats up admins time.

Your image will NOT appear on the base page, you will see it only if you look at other players, so as long as you simply bank or improve your stats on mobile phone, you will have no problems.

Furthermore there will be a restriction making the pictures very small in size, NO 1 MB pictures. The limit would be somewhere around 100 KB.

If they have porn or cursing, they will be fined (maybe get no units for 3 days), their image deleted and no more opportunity to have images turned on.

Nomad wrote:If you find it acceptable, and the coding justifiable, then go for it.


I would like to see some sort of guidelines, and maybe a way to block/turn off certain ones or all of them.

Example, extreme yes, but still an example

Player A has a swastica in his pic, player B is jewish and most of his family were lost in the halocaust. The general public allows the image. Now what is player B to do?

I can tell you straight away that the following will be forbidden to have no matter what other players think:

Forbidden to have images which show:
nudity, cursing, fascist symbols,
express racism, Religious intolerance, sexism and homophobia.

There cannot be tolerance to intolerant people.
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Post by Space2050 Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:09 pm

Fascism is a Political viewpoint, either you go against all or most political systems, or you just go against the certain cases where the symbols aren't acceptable.

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Post by Nomad Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:53 am

Admin wrote:
Nomad wrote:Player A has a swastica in his pic, player B is jewish and most of his family were lost in the halocaust. The general public allows the image. Now what is player B to do?
be tolerant and do themselves a favor and not open their stats page/mass target player until they change it

Kenzu wrote:
Nomad wrote:
Player A has a swastica in his pic, player B is jewish and most of his family were lost in the halocaust. The general public allows the image. Now what is player B to do?

I can tell you straight away that the following will be forbidden to have no matter what other players think:

Forbidden to have images which show:
nudity, cursing, fascist symbols,
express racism, Religious intolerance, sexism and homophobia.

There cannot be tolerance to intolerant people.

I'm cool with the pic under those guidlines, but keep in mind dial up as well as mobile, would still like to see a way to turn it off IF needed.

Now I quoted you both just to show the totally different opinions about the same subject. Hence my confusion.

@ Kenzu specificly, I kinna agree with Space on this one, who are you or I to decide what is fascism, or extremeism, etc, etc, etc
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Post by Jiro Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:45 am

@Nomad and Space, it said fascist symbols. I'd guess that means the axe with arrows Mussolini used as an emblem. And he probably means swastika's in a white circle on a red background as well. A nice overview can be found on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism.
Both of them much more shocking (and possibly illegal, depending on the country you are in) than nudity.

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Post by ian Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:11 pm

Well, here's another thing for you to consider regarding the "whats acceptable and whats not" debate.

Personally to me the communist hammer and sickle is no less "evil" or "nasty" than the Nazi swastika - and like the Nazi Swastika - 10's of millions of people were butchered/ wiped out in the name of the idea's it represents. Under the proposed rules... would the communist hammer and sickle be permitted?

In addittion - there's other examples. Here in the United Kingdom the British National Party (which is still generally regarded by the public as being fascist) uses the Union Jack (the Uk's flag) as its party logo. The result is there are still cases where if someone were to walk down a highstreet wearing a top with the Union Jack on - or hang the Union Jack in their window, or have it fly in their backyard - that they d get assosicated to the BNP and probably get branded as a racist and fascist... even if the reality is they are just flying their nations flag out of pride/ patriotism/ or because they simply like the look of it.

Thus, again, in this sort of example - would someone who uploads a union jack get accussed of being a fascist? Its unlikely in this scenario... but i m sure there are tons of examples out there which to one group a symbol is a good thing, and then to another is offensive/ misinterpreted.

How would you distinguish in border-line cases?
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Post by Jiro Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:08 pm

I don't have a problem with the union jack. It reminds me of liquorice allsorts and rockbands more than BNP. And, yes, the communist theme of the WR forum made me uneasy.
There are border-line cases, but surely there are some that we can all agree on?

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Post by Kenzu Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:55 pm

Space2050 wrote:Fascism is a Political viewpoint, either you go against all or most political systems, or you just go against the certain cases where the symbols aren't acceptable.

Everything is acceptable, as long as it's not intolerant towards groups of people.
Fascism is intolerant towards people from other ethnicities.
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Post by Kenzu Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:14 pm

ian wrote:Well, here's another thing for you to consider regarding the "whats acceptable and whats not" debate.

Personally to me the communist hammer and sickle is no less "evil" or "nasty" than the Nazi swastika - and like the Nazi Swastika - 10's of millions of people were butchered/ wiped out in the name of the idea's it represents. Under the proposed rules... would the communist hammer and sickle be permitted?

In addittion - there's other examples. Here in the United Kingdom the British National Party (which is still generally regarded by the public as being fascist) uses the Union Jack (the Uk's flag) as its party logo. The result is there are still cases where if someone were to walk down a highstreet wearing a top with the Union Jack on - or hang the Union Jack in their window, or have it fly in their backyard - that they d get assosicated to the BNP and probably get branded as a racist and fascist... even if the reality is they are just flying their nations flag out of pride/ patriotism/ or because they simply like the look of it.

Thus, again, in this sort of example - would someone who uploads a union jack get accussed of being a fascist? Its unlikely in this scenario... but i m sure there are tons of examples out there which to one group a symbol is a good thing, and then to another is offensive/ misinterpreted.

How would you distinguish in border-line cases?

I think its pretty simple to distinguish.
Look at the aim of a symbol or organisation. If they have good goals, they should be allowed, if they have bad goals, they shouldn't be allowed.

I see nothing bad with the British flag, even though Britain has done many wrong things like colonising and exploiting people from their colonies, USA had slaves and killed native americans, almost every single country of the world went to war for reasons to acquire more land and influence. But the reasons why countries exist isnt total domination of the world, it is to organise society in a peaceful manner so that there is rule of the law and safety. Therefore it will never be forbidden to display countries flags, even if you don't like that country.

Now let's go to other symbols. Have people been killed in the name of Socialism? Yes. Have people been killed in the name of God by Christians? Yes. But the basic idea of both socialism and christianity isn't to kill people, it is basically the idea to make the world a better, more happy place to live in. Therefore it won't be forbidden to show a Christian cross or hammer and sickle.

Reichsflagge on the other hand is a symbol of NSDAP and the rule of nazies, who are well known for their strong racist beliefs and view that Aryans have the right to rule over "lesser people". Therefore nazi symbols will be forbidden.
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Post by Admin Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 am

Added the personal message, editable in account options page and viewable in the stats page
With the picture i'm not sure if it will come later or at all.
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Post by Kira Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:14 am

coowl but it doesnt show up to others
also it would be great if you could add another 'button' to edit it
something like
Message of the Day [edit]

and text limit


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Post by Alex Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:17 am

Well I think its a very good update, I am being consistently surprised and pleased with the updates that are coming out even since I have started playing (A single week at the moment).

Already two have come out since then, both I love personaly.

Edit: Just after I posted this I saw that the message displays as I have typed it when I view everyone elses stats page as well as mine. I had thought that it would show thier message on thier page (and show mine to them when they look at mine) Bug maybe or deliberate?

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Post by Admin Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:21 am

well considering the lack of actual redirection to the news page, or some other sign actively telling others that it's working correctly ....

So fixed the bugs and whatnot, should work properly now.
The issue was that I wanted a box to show up even if said player had nothing written there.
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Post by Alex Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:25 am

Seems to be working now, as far as I can tell with no-one else (that I can see) having put in a message, but one thing:

Before (When it was buggy) it recognised my 'enters' i.e.

I type:
bla bla bla -ENTER-
bla bla bla

and it showed:

bla bla bla
bla bla bla

But now i type the same thing and it replaces the enter with a space i.e.

I type:
bla bla bla -ENTER-
bla bla bla

and it showes:

bla bla bla bla bla bla

Bug maybe or deleberate, I prefer the first one.

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Post by Admin Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:34 am

yeh you fix one thing and another gets screwed up. it will show different lines obviously when working properly
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Post by Admin Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:35 am

nvm, found the problem. silly me
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Post by Alex Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:35 am

Working again!

Thanks Admin!

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Post by Nomad Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:51 am

I have it set to show the News page on log in, but it didnt do it this time admin?

and its listed under the "Account Details/Go on Vacation" link for those who didnt know.
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