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Post by castravete on Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:58 am

Reason: Offensive Language

Keinutnai wrote:

Castravete is a sore loser.

What more do you want?
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by goku1719 on Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:34 pm

As far as I am aware, that is just you being petty and a sore loser. I guess you can interpret that as offensive, but I hardly doubt something that minor demands a ban. If all bans were dependent on the victims perspective of what is offensive, I am pretty sure almost everyone will always be banned for some reason or another.

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by Nomad on Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:10 pm

goku1719 wrote:As far as I am aware, that is just you being petty and a sore loser. I guess you can interpret that as offensive, but I hardly doubt something that minor demands a ban. If all bans were dependent on the victims perspective of what is offensive, I am pretty sure almost everyone will always be banned for some reason or another.

Not to overly stir the pot, but since I DID receive a ban, and was told that it WAS dependent on the victims perspective, I think he has a valid request. Not saying I think the request should be granted or not, just saying it is valid because of past bannings.

Keep in mind, Kenzu banned me because when he said that I believed in conspiracy theories, I rebuttle with "only you are stupid enough to believe in conspiracy theories". I was consequently banned because Kenzu was offended. The fact he accused me, and the fact that accusation offended me was "irrelevant".

Just saying.

***added note***
From my understanding you complain to the admin, and he looks over the issue and decides if a banning/warning is warranted. Since Kenzu is the Admin of RA where my offense happened, he was able to ban me with no interaction with Martin.
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by goku1719 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:44 am

-sigh- Sorry about that Nomad, I guess, but I wasn't aware of your personal situation. I was commenting on the situation in a more general perspective.

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by castravete on Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:03 pm

so, if Nomad would have reported a ban request on this matter, it should have been more seriously taken?

hasn't noticed the fact that I wasn't that active on the forum untill I saw the shameless way Kenzu cheats and lies, but you being a puppy and a strong hard player with a 10 mil army size that feeds Kenzu's account decided to open that and speak just as much as your affords you...true?

Next time if you have something to say on this matter speak in bag and throw it to the dumpster with your other briliant ideas keep deep down ?...can you do that for me please?


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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by Gamniac on Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:25 pm

No need to be so offensive, Cast.
Especially not in a topic started because you were offended, somehow that just seems a bit off.
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by castravete on Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:40 pm

maybe I went a little off but goku offended me in a topic made about someone offending me so, instead of reporting goku as well I offended him back...You also have to observe the behinds of this offending on forum: me and other players offended people and got banned within a few hours, I have reported Kenzu several days ago and the admins seems not to observe the post...and this makes me thinking...
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by Admin on Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:06 am

castravete wrote:Reason: Offensive Language

Keinutnai wrote:

Castravete is a sore loser.

What more do you want?
reporting something remotely offensive, nowhere was I able to link that term to something being considered an insult or stuff like what vaga or fivel said to get their bans

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by goku1719 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:31 am

castravete wrote:so, if Nomad would have reported a ban request on this matter, it should have been more seriously taken?

Guess your neuron hasn't noticed the fact that I wasn't that active on the forum untill I saw the shameless way Kenzu cheats and lies, but you being a puppy and a strong hard player with a 10 mil army size that feeds Kenzu's account decided to open that pie hole and speak just as much as your neuronless brain affords you...true?

Next time if you have something to say on this matter speak in bag and throw it to the dumpster with your other briliant ideas keep deep down inside your neuron?...can you do that for me please?
I think you misunderstand, I apologised to Nomad because I wasn't aware of him getting banned for a similar situation. There was absolutely no insinuation on my part about a ban request from Nomad being more seriously considered than yours.
As for your comment about me being loyal, yes I am loyal to Kein and WR, but at no point in my two years in this game have I fed another account. As for me having a neuronless brain, I am quite certain I am far more intelligent than you are, but that may just be my personal opinion. And before you let me know of yours, I have no wish to hear yours on this matter after you have needlessly insulted me with baseless and irrelevant accusations.

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by castravete on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:20 am

Goku...ok let's leave it your you man...YOU ARE SO RIGHT:))...EXCUSE ME FOR DARRING TO CONTRADICT YOU...GODD LUCK!

Can't argue with you if vaga and fivel deserved their ban, mostly maybe they did deserve it...So you can't link the usage of the word "loser" with anything offensive...that is very simple and i'll give you some literary examples: "sucker", "schmuck"...but kenzu by far didn't mean that...no? The only thing that can be observed if I would use the expresion "sore loser" it was a sure ban...but I guess kenzu didn't used it in the same way I would and that's why he shouldn't be punished...corect!?
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by goku1719 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:02 am

Like I said, I have no reason to listen to you after you insulted me needlessly, regardless of whether what you said was positive or negative.

So if you use a word, and it has an offensive synonym, that automatically makes that word offensive too? It's like saying all fruits are bad because one was poisonous.

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by Steveanaya on Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:57 am

Which one?
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by mental on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:01 am

Well I think your all bananas clown
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Post by Steveanaya on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:04 am

Agreed.
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by goku1719 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:22 pm

Hey what happened to good old oranges?

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by Keinutnai on Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:32 pm

castravete wrote:Goku...ok let's leave it your you man...YOU ARE SO RIGHT:))...EXCUSE ME FOR DARRING TO CONTRADICT YOU...GODD LUCK!

Can't argue with you if vaga and fivel deserved their ban, mostly maybe they did deserve it...So you can't link the usage of the word "loser" with anything offensive...that is very simple and i'll give you some literary examples: "sucker", "schmuck"...but kenzu by far didn't mean that...no? The only thing that can be observed if I would use the expresion "sore loser" it was a sure ban...but I guess kenzu didn't used it in the same way I would and that's why he shouldn't be punished...corect!?

You know, you can call me a sore loser and I won't think it's offensive. All I will tell you is that your claim is unfounded. In fact if I got banned for calling someone a sore loser, then admin would have to ban everyone who made such a claim and also people who said that others whine. You would end up with many TMI and Mujengan members banned multiple times, some of them maybe permanently.

I will laugh at you if you call me a sore loser, because no one is going to believe you and it's easy to prove you wrong.
But calling someone a cheater is different, because it's impossible to provide evidence which will make it 100% clear that one is innocent. Proving innocence on a thing like this is like trying to prove that there is no god. You can provide evidence, but no one can be 100% sure and some people will always doubt you.

The accusations you constantly make against me (calling me a cheater, a multi, getting resources from no where) have a name. It's called libel or defamation and if this was real world, you would be already sitting in jail for this or paying a large sum of money as compensation.

In any case, your repeated offense (more than 10 libel posts) should constitute to a permanent ban of your account to post on the forum.

And after all you have done, you have the guts to ask me to be banned for something as petty as calling you a sore loser? If admin really gave me a ban for this, he would have to ban a big bunch of other people and you would also get a permanent ban on the forum for constant defamation. Calling me a cheater is an outrageous insult and you should have been permanently banned long time ago.

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Post by seaborgium on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:59 am

Keinutnai wrote:The accusations you constantly make against me (calling me a cheater, a multi, getting resources from no where) have a name. It's called libel or defamation and if this was real world, you would be already sitting in jail for this or paying a large sum of money as compensation.

In any case, your repeated offense (more than 10 libel posts) should constitute to a permanent ban of your account to post on the forum.

That depends on if the people read it know anything about you. I wouldn't see it as libel, I see it as truth, as do MANY others who play. affraid

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by goku1719 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:15 am

That is personal opinion, and personal opinion is often biased and sometimes far from the truth, regardless of the number of people that share that sentiment.

Personally, I think Kenzu is a highly calculative player that just grows fast because he works hard at the game.

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by castravete on Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:48 pm

Goku, I do respect your personal opinion and nevertheless I tried to work hard for this game and still I can't overcome his army size and his income and his resources...so, I don't doubt that he works hard in this game, but he also cheats and gets his account feed;)
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by Lord Ishurue on Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:01 pm



also I plan on edited and deleting a good chunk of this post prolly with in a wk or so. Nor do i want my post to be quoted. think of this post as an advertisement for a wk end yardsale that gets taken down by monday.



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Post by Nomad on Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:51 am

I agree with a good portion of what you said. Many of us have fought HARD to make AW more then what it is. The forums are a great example. Many asked for this to be a place to hang out, an arcade, non AW, stuff, etc,,, always shut down tho.

I don't think Kenzu intentionally sabatoges the game, but I also think he is completely blind to the collateral damage he has/is causing.
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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by goku1719 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:14 pm

Something Ishurue said that I want to shut down. I am the 2nd in command in WR, so I would know if anyone in the alliance has any cheating privileges from Martin and Kein being brothers. We don't have any. Just a little detail I picked up on from what Ishurue said.

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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by Nomad on Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:42 pm

goku1719 wrote:Something Ishurue said that I want to shut down. I am the 2nd in command in WR, so I would know if anyone in the alliance has any cheating privileges from Martin and Kein being brothers. We don't have any. Just a little detail I picked up on from what Ishurue said.

No offense, but that's complete bull mate. Both Admin and Kenzu can and more then likely would confirm IF (Yes I Said IF) They Chose to cheat, it could be done without you or any other WR member EVER knowing.

*Not saying they do, just saying IF they chose to there is nothing about being a 2IC that would allow you to know,,,unless they told you or did something stupid like dumping 500 mill men or 100 trill kewal on an account at once. A daily burst of 500 bill kewal and 5 mill men could easily been hidden and explained away.*
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Post by Lord Ishurue on Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:10 pm

goku1719 wrote:Something Ishurue said that I want to shut down. I am the 2nd in command in WR, so I would know if anyone in the alliance has any cheating privileges from Martin and Kein being brothers. We don't have any. Just a little detail I picked up on from what Ishurue said.

im not saying u guys are doing anything shady etc. my post was more of a What If nature thing.

overall i think the whole acuse of treating should be a subject that gets dealt with swiftly and the fire put out rather then dragged on. like i mentioned even Kenzu being acused of cheating can have negative results on the games growth.

err a somewhat silly example

Goku say your a stand up guy , doesn't play woman/ cheat on your woman, treats them like queen and in return u get king like treatment.

However 95% of your male friends are playas that cheat etc etc.

Now a potential dating candidate for you might think your just like your Playa/womanizing friends simply coz yor their friend. ( now remember yor not like your friends)

Because of this the dating candidate you had in mind goes with another dude simply because she couldn't trust in your word etc coz of your playa/womanizing friends and passes on rumors that you are one etc.

Nah i mean ? So even if Kenzu is not a cheater, if he is mildly suspected whether on None - moderate evidence etc , its some what an equivalant to the above example.

one way i can see this getting resolved and a basically somewhat silly acusation getting trumped

1. update in which advisors can see broker & direct transfer logs
2. update that allows advisors know how much $ a player spent on the ingame cash market or at least for kenzu.

saying admin magically adds resources to kenzu's account i mean he prolly could do that but throwing out an accusation like that is to an extent just as silly as me saying Player B is under the control of aliens, yes they are their IQ score went through the roof, they are an alien.

nah i mean ?

Lets talk extreme worst case scenario and kenzu is cheating etc. I am pretty sure the server would let it go on fair punishment and a promisary note not to do it again etc etc, Admin in past has been reasonable with other players caught cheating so no reason he can't be like that with me/another player in the game.


Lets hope this silly topic gets resolved so we can see more posts/threads like "WOW 400 players joined AWs last month" "due to huge spike in active player base a player appreciation day will happen everyone's up gets a 10% post including inactives"

"AWs opens up 4-10 more games" AWs research & Developement team added 4 more people to the roster, this means faster updates etc)

"Month special coming up 40% off $ market" ( for players on tight budgets they can do this to earn $ market credits)

Im pretty sure most players would prefer to here things like that rather then a player (setting aside status) is suspected of cheating.



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Re: Ban Keinutnai

Post by castravete on Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:26 pm

Goku you are 2nd IC at WR?...with a 28 mil population a a 183% tech?...since when did you started this game, my friend?...no offense;)

And btw, kids this thread was about Kenzu calling me a loser...and about him cheating. The one about cheating is long disscused and nothing happenes, he still cheats. But as we all can see the admin can't link the expression used by to anything offensive, also he can't see anything offensive about mucking my nick...well..that tells a lot!
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