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Post by seaborgium Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:13 pm

So many players on AW have been watching a player named ArKanJiL. He had 6k ATs, roughly a 9b def, over 1.6m UU out in the open. He only had a raw up of 31,000.

I happen to notice that he was down in the ranks, so I spied and found that he had a 0 def. and only 107k UU in the open. So I spied again to see the def, as I didn't see it the first time. He was at 0, and 0 def units left.

So I messaged a few people I know that have access to see such things, and what did I find out.

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Hi Seaborgium,

I cannot see who did the sab or 4 assassinations. Sara did assaults, Smog and command92 raided(first command, then smog). King and curumo did some raiding while defences were up. When I've repaired my computer, I'll see if I can get a better picture.

Now as for the KoS hits where made when he still had a def, and were profitable.

Now I would like for people to notice who did the assaults on the account, it was Sara.

Kenzu what do you have to say for your alliance now?
You posted about KoS doing it to VIS and then not repaying.
Have you guys repaid your own?
Don't post he was inactive or any of that crap. As you said to the rest of us here on the forums.
From our view Red was inactive, 6k ats + more then 10 days worth of UU in the open.

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Post by ian Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:45 pm

LOL Laughing Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Wow... just wow. I think you might have just found Kenzu's greatest act of hypocrisy & 2 faced-ness ever.... & I ll admit, I didn't think it was possible for Kenzu to beat some of his past acts of Hypocrisy.

Well, I m now declaring open season on World Republic's accounts with large amounts of UU out. Lets go grab ourselves their UU before Kenzu & his inner circle do Very Happy
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Post by Keinutnai Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:32 pm

seaborgium wrote:So many players on AW have been watching a player named ArKanJiL. He had 6k ATs, roughly a 9b def, over 1.6m UU out in the open. He only had a raw up of 31,000.

I happen to notice that he was down in the ranks, so I spied and found that he had a 0 def. and only 107k UU in the open. So I spied again to see the def, as I didn't see it the first time. He was at 0, and 0 def units left.

So I messaged a few people I know that have access to see such things, and what did I find out.

Message text:

Hi Seaborgium,

I cannot see who did the sab or 4 assassinations. Sara did assaults, Smog and command92 raided(first command, then smog). King and curumo did some raiding while defences were up. When I've repaired my computer, I'll see if I can get a better picture.

Now as for the KoS hits where made when he still had a def, and were profitable.

Now I would like for people to notice who did the assaults on the account, it was Sara.

Kenzu what do you have to say for your alliance now?
You posted about KoS doing it to VIS and then not repaying.
Have you guys repaid your own?
Don't post he was inactive or any of that crap. As you said to the rest of us here on the forums.
From our view Red was inactive, 6k ats + more then 10 days worth of UU in the open.

Obviously if Arkanjil becommes active again, he must be repaid!

And let me remind you, that redblulu has still to be repaid.

Hinting that Marauders don't have to pay for a mass raid on redblulu because of Arkanjil is a poor excuse.


Now lets look at the text I marked red. Why suddently you say he was inactive? You didnt think he was inactive whan compensation was set up. You could have asked sara, and she could have forwarded you a message from redblulu proving he was active, or you could have asked redblulu personally if he is active, and he would have replied to you. So please be so kind and stop making claims that you thought he was inactive.
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Post by seaborgium Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:43 pm

1. the time frame for repayment on red has come and gone, also so has the time for VIS to have massed KoS. So repaying Red won't happen.

2. I never said anything about repayment. I only pointed out that WR hit one of there own as to keep the UU in house.

3. We found out after he was hit that he was active. I won't get into that anymore that what as been said already.


Ian we could just make it open season on WR.

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Post by Mystake Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:37 pm

I <3 WR raids....


just saying Very Happy

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Post by Paladius Sun May 01, 2011 2:31 pm

Did you miss the part where WR massed one of there own to raid UU, Kenzu? I believe that was the main point of this thread, not whether someone was inactive or not.
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Post by Steveanaya Sun May 01, 2011 5:44 pm

Paladius wrote:Did you miss the part where WR massed one of there own to raid UU, Kenzu? I believe that was the main point of this thread, not whether someone was inactive or not.
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Post by curumo Sun May 01, 2011 6:11 pm

Well in all fairness I took 300 k uu from him and messaged him about what would happen if I massed him for the uu with a VERY big profit. Well .... I raided some of his uu, I farmed him. I took a look at his a few days ago - he was raided, massed ... and well ... I honestly think that he was also untrained. (0 defense units whatsoever - which is impossible in a massing unless you REALLY want to spend trillions to mass him...)

So my question is - what TRULY happened to Arkajil's account?

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Post by stars Mon May 02, 2011 5:51 pm

LOL!!!!!! DUDE I SAY EVERYONE JOIN IN AND DESTROY WR as they are filled with some pretty hypocritic people. If they can hit their own, we can hit them too for god sakes. Forget KENZU's rules and regulations, he breaks his own god damn rules. TIME TO DIE!!!

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Post by seaborgium Mon May 02, 2011 5:52 pm

Stars relax drink some herbal tea haha.

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Post by Kingofshinobis1 Mon May 02, 2011 5:55 pm

hahaha i have not been able to post bcause of my inernet bein messed up but i feel like i need to say What A Joke lol. as for defense units bein 0....it can happen. especially after being assaled a lot and sabbed in oder to hve no weapons. the raiding can kill quie a bit of defense units. still......:party: :party: Laughing wtf.

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Post by curumo Mon May 02, 2011 9:05 pm

KoS I agree - it CAN happen ... but you and I both know how much at/st would be wasted to kill off a def 100 %... So I doubt that - hence I want a clarification on what happened. Oh and I will not stop asking this question until it is answered.

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Post by seaborgium Mon May 02, 2011 9:28 pm

not really curumo...

If you assult enough, and get it low, then you can over assn and kill the rest of the units, I have done it lots of times.

you lose MORE, but if the score is good Wink

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Post by curumo Mon May 02, 2011 10:39 pm

Yea true but that IS a little extreme to do on your own member ... even if you are doing to protect the 'alliance uu' ...

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Post by ghyogod Tue May 03, 2011 12:47 pm

there was an old spartan habbit of killing ones unfortunate children.

please note that if i ever become inactive for any RL reason, i will leave my defences in the hands of my commarades to do however they please with them.
and if they profit they deserve BEER !

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Post by Casshern Tue May 03, 2011 12:56 pm

is that not cheating by feeding account outside of the transfers ratio. one of the reasons admin banned stripping bought accounts
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Post by seaborgium Tue May 03, 2011 1:32 pm

Casshern wrote:is that not cheating by feeding account outside of the transfers ratio. one of the reasons admin banned stripping bought accounts

not really, if he untrained everything and put it all out in the open, yes that would be

admin stopped stripping as that would make the PTR bad for atleast 1 of the 2 accounts.

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Post by Casshern Tue May 03, 2011 3:25 pm

very gray line, here mate heres few billion get a good up so you can be my uu farm sort gray
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Post by seaborgium Tue May 03, 2011 3:49 pm

I see what your talking about, but I see both sides currently. I guess its up to admin.

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Post by ghyogod Tue May 03, 2011 5:35 pm

Casshern wrote:very gray line, here mate heres few billion get a good up so you can be my uu farm sort gray

naaah u cannot state that. ark was an active plazer till recently. and he got inactive. the mass raid thing happends just once.
after that everyone is invited to raid him, cause he is def 0.
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following that logic, all the inactives are feeders, cause they bring u profit.
so absolutely should be banned. (except the active players that do not EVER farm inactives.
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Post by seaborgium Tue May 03, 2011 5:40 pm

NO what he is saying was in regards to you.
You could leave due to life. You let the others in your allinace know that, and you keep your def up. Then once you have enough UU(as you are protected by your allinace). They could take out your def and get the massive UU.
Players not in an allinace can get the same way, they just wouldn't make it up to 1m+ in the open.

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Post by stars Wed May 04, 2011 2:40 am

Let me just say, Kenzu does what he does because he knows admin will not punish him for his actions. When admin punishes everyone one else for doing that, he bans both accounts for "FEEDING". When will the crap stop? We never know.

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Post by ghyogod Wed May 04, 2011 9:49 am

if I would give someone 1m UU my PTR could still be within boundaries. thus it is not admins bussines.

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Post by seaborgium Wed May 04, 2011 11:51 am

I can give 20m and still be out. My ptr has been shot th few times I was below 50 with out doing anything it shot back up over 60 as the price on market goes up.

I think we need a new system

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Post by Admin Wed May 04, 2011 3:46 pm

seaborgium wrote:I see what your talking about, but I see both sides currently. I guess its up to admin.
the raids get monitored. I wrote myself a script a long time ago that goes through all the raids in the logs for precicely this reason.
Filters out the non-interesting ones, then checks for sabotage/assault/assassination missions and for feeding activity like untraining/trades/raiding/protections/etc. to distinguish feeding raids from mass-raiding.

then if it's a group effort and still shows up on the radar, i only have to check 1-2 incidents per month manually
So to check for raid-feeding i need to invest around 1-3 minutes per week of my own personal time on average.

similar story with farming
as you may notice I already banned the first person temporarily for trying to screw with the PTR, more will follow
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