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Post by raglory Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:10 pm

Hello,

I can`t find anywhere the algorithm that specifies how the raw UP value affects the overall rank. Can you provide a formula?

Thanks.

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Post by Nomad Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:17 pm

it here, let me look for it right quick


here is a discussion on it
https://aderanwars.forumotion.com/t1828-alliance-rankings?highlight=alliance+rank

tried to find the update in the updates section hoping it was listed there, but i didnt find it,,,, sorry
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Post by raglory Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:32 pm

Thanks for replying. But I was asking for reset server. From what I know Raw UP doesn`t count for rank in main.

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Post by Kenzu Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:40 pm

Everywhere where you see a # followed by a number it's a rank that is used for the global rank calculation.

Right now they all have equal weight.
You calculate your global rank by adding up all ranks:

strike
defense
covert
assassin
airforce
total power
war experience
income
unit production
population


Player who has the lowest total of all 10 ranks gets rank 1.
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Post by Nomad Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:31 pm

WOW, I totally misread your post this morning, I thought you were talking about alliance ranks.

My bad.
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Post by Nomad Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:07 pm

Does having logged into RA or not having logged into RA on a set round make a difference?

Question is, does logging in and never playing automatically rank you higher then never logging in at all?
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Post by Jiro Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:29 am

I think it does. Look at Keinutnai, rank 30. I think there are 289 pages of accounts with better (or equal) stats.

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Post by Nomad Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:50 am

I would have thought Kenzu's account a bad example for obvious reasons, but since you brought his name up yes it is odd how the 2 stack up


Your spies move stealthily through Keinutnai 's base undetected. They are able to gather some documents and information about the empire's military capabilities and economic power. Your Chief of Intelligence provides you with the information gathered:

Population Distribution:
Military Units
Attack Soldiers 1,027
Defense Soldiers 1,228
Spies 0
Special Forces 0
Economic Units
Untrained 17,488
Idle Units 0
Farmers 10,000
Miners 0
Workers 0
Graduates 0
Experts 0

Military Stats
Strike Action: 0
Defensive Action 0
Covert Action 0
Assasin Action 0
Attack Weapon Power 100
Defense Weapon Power 100
Spy Power: 100
Assasin Power: 100
Attack Turns: 2,984
Unit Production: 1,000

Technological Development
Attack Technology: 100%
Defense Technology: 100%
Covert Technology: 100%
Assassin Technology: 100%

VS

Your spies move stealthily through lamekupo27 's base undetected. They are able to gather some documents and information about the empire's military capabilities and economic power. Your Chief of Intelligence provides you with the information gathered:

Population Distribution:
Military Units
Attack Soldiers 900
Defense Soldiers 882
Spies 900
Special Forces 900
Economic Units
Untrained 12,620
Idle Units 0
Farmers 0
Miners 0
Workers 0
Graduates 0
Experts 0

Military Stats
Strike Action: 90,000
Defensive Action 104,076
Covert Action 90,000
Assasin Action 90,000
Attack Weapon Power 100
Defense Weapon Power 100
Spy Power: 100
Assasin Power: 100
Attack Turns: 2,984
Unit Production: 500



Technological Development
Attack Technology: 100%
Defense Technology: 100%
Covert Technology: 100%
Assassin Technology: 100%

Weapons
Name Type Quantity Strength
Automatic Pistol Defense 882 100
Automatic Pistol Attack 900 100

I can only assume his UP being doubled and possibly WE are why its higher ranked even tho its facing 4 zero rankings?
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Post by Nomad Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:17 am

Well I guess an answer was just to much to ask for Jiro.
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Post by Kenzu Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:54 pm

Nomad wrote:Does having logged into RA or not having logged into RA on a set round make a difference?

Question is, does logging in and never playing automatically rank you higher then never logging in at all?

Yes, if you don't log in a single time, you will be ranked worse than anyone who has logged in at least once.
But it makes no difference if you logged in once or a million times. It has been made so that it's easier to find active people at the beginning of a round, especially if you look for trade partners.

Jiro wrote:I think it does. Look at Keinutnai, rank 30. I think there are 289 pages of accounts with better (or equal) stats.

Players who log in automatically get better stats than inactive players. The difference is mainly starting UP which is 1000 for active players, and 10.000 farmers. Inactive players start with 0 farmers.
Inactive players have thus a lower rank because they have less population, less income and less UP.
However if a player who has logged in at least once has all his stats zeroed, he will still be above inactive players, because of a part of algorithm that assigns worse rank to inactive players.

A player who hasn't logged in a single time will be always ranked worse than a player who logged in at least once.
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Post by Alex Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:43 pm

Is income rank based on the income you see on your base page, i.e. after Work Conditions and everything has been factored into it? (Will changing Work Conditions affect my income rank)

And slightly off topic, is UP rank based on raw or total/real?
(And when you spy do you see the raw or total UP of someone, stupid question that I used to know the answer too, but have forgotten)

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Post by Nomad Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:05 pm

Kenzu wrote:Everywhere where you see a # followed by a number it's a rank that is used for the global rank calculation.

Right now they all have equal weight.
You calculate your global rank by adding up all ranks:

strike
defense
covert
assassin
airforce
total power
war experience
income
unit production
population


Player who has the lowest total of all 10 ranks gets rank 1.

It appears this is no longer true? Can you verify Kenzu?
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Post by Kenzu Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:44 pm

ok, I will check it.
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Post by Nomad Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:07 pm

TY



**edit**
I assume it has been fixed now since my rank has increased even tho I have lost rank 1 in 2 separate stats while the rest have remained unchanged.
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