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Post by Lord Ishurue on Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:01 am



what exactly is it , by majority ?

to me a stat builder is someone who never builds economy . like economy = Taboo .

on average players have 80% economy so a stat builder would have 80% military ?

if i built my defense to top 15 i would be rank 3 . If i did that would I be considered a stat builder ?
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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by curumo on Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:32 am

No - I think you'd not be that for one simple reason. You don't neglect your economy ... and keep building instead of hiding behind a tag and regulations.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by stars on Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:00 am

stat builders are people who LOOK AT BIG BIG NUMBERS and think they are awesome until they are massed and then cry like crazy

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by nobel on Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:15 am

But aren't most of the important stats in Aderan Wars indestructible?

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by kingkongfan1 on Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:31 am

gonna show my ignorance here; but what difference does it make? I do not understand your complaint. it looks to me like we have a T.I.E. member actually agreeing with a T.o.C. member; over what is my question?
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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by Nimras on Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:40 am

Stat builder = One who never fights, one who always build stats higher and higher to keep his income safe but also to look scary to others so they think twice before hitting, a stat builder is a coward who hide behind others if possible.

Thats my difinition of a stat builder they are not 80% military as they need income as well.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by buhcoreTheGreat on Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:07 pm

i have 21% trained in military, does that make me a stats builder?
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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by Jiro on Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:19 pm

I'd say it is someone whose sole aim is to increase his stats to such a level that he/she becomes ranked 1, without having the intention of using those stats for roleplay.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by kingkongfan1 on Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:34 pm

Jiro wrote:I'd say it is someone whose sole aim is to increase his stats to such a level that he/she becomes ranked 1, without having the intention of using those stats for roleplay.

ok, let me ask this about the above statement, what is wrong with this playstyle? why is it such an issue with some of you? if the account in question is hitting others, then strike back, if not then leave them be.
What difference does it matter if a player chooses to be a stat builder, or a brawler? sorry but I still do not understand the thoughts behind this thread...
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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by seaborgium on Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:49 pm

I can show you many players in other games that say if you have more then 5% of your account trained as killables then you are a stat builder.

However the other games aren't as costly as here to do the massing.

Building a def and hiding behind it is a play style yes, but so is just massing the crap out of players bc you can is also.

Which takes me back to what someone once said to me while I was trying to decide to do with my 925b kuwal.
Weapon 13 = pointless, cool as hell but costly
spy/assassin 7200 = cool, but hostile.

Its only an issue if I use it wrong, but it detours others from hitting me. But its not killable. Yes building 1m spies will stop some from hitting me, but it would invite others to hit bc thats 1m killable and they can kill them for less then it cost them.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by Kenzu on Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:43 pm

Statbuilders love to have a high rank.
They are known for throwing their resources at military to reach a better rank.
Their rank improves fast at first, then slower and slower, comes to a halt, and when they start asking themselves why, their rank starts to fall faster and faster, because people who were as big as them a couple months before, focused on economy instead, and by now, are 5 times bigger than them, and their small military became even stronger than the bloated military of the statbuilder.

Statbuilder, is someone, who focuses more on military than economy.

Statbuilders are people who sacrifice the most to be strongest, never remain among the strongest, and cannot grasp the importance of a strong economy.
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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by Nimras on Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:47 pm

Kenzu wrote:Statbuilders love to have a high rank.
They are known for throwing their resources at military to reach a better rank.
Their rank improves fast at first, then slower and slower, comes to a halt, and when they start asking themselves why, their rank starts to fall faster and faster, because people who were as big as them a couple months before, focused on economy instead, and by now, are 5 times bigger than them, and their small military became even stronger than the bloated military of the statbuilder.

Statbuilder, is someone, who focuses more on military than economy.

Statbuilders are people who sacrifice the most to be strongest, never remain among the strongest, and cannot grasp the importance of a strong economy.

Kenzu not true a prober STAT builder will always focus on Economic as well thats their growth base.

In every game i have been in where i have meet statbuilders they also have a good economic so they can keep their stats and run around proud.

A stat builder is someone who is a cowards and let others fight for him/her.

Saying a stat builder doese not focus on economic is wrong.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by nobel on Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:52 pm

Hmm, Kenzu and Nimras have different definitions of what a stat-builder is.

It is either a person who has a short-term focus on getting a high rank quickly OR someone who is a coward and avoids fights.

Kenzu seems to be making a lot of sense.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by seaborgium on Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:03 pm

I agree more with kenzu more.

I say if your over 2m army size and you have more then 20% then you are a stat builder.
But I would also argue if you are over and are willing to fight then you aren't.

People that have high stats in 3 but 0 in the 4 are stat builders.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by Nimras on Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:29 pm

seaborgium wrote:I agree more with kenzu more.

I say if your over 2m army size and you have more then 20% then you are a stat builder.
But I would also argue if you are over and are willing to fight then you aren't.

People that have high stats in 3 but 0 in the 4 are stat builders.

Well i have in my time in this game and many others meet alot of statbuilders and 3 thing always seems to be the same in all cases.

1. They are cowards they will not fight nor trade or sell or help with resources.
2. They do not farm or raid much actually rarely.
3. They have roughly 60%/40% in military and economic and a few goese up to 80%/20%. But the ones with 40% in economic actually grows alot and can follow the others to a degree.

So thats why i do not think you can say they do not focus on economic as they do.

Hence why i always heare them whine when massed or farmed because BULLSHIT lol.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by FarleShadow on Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:40 am

Lots of garbage here

I prefer to make my Kuwal and keep it, this is not stat building, but alot of you guys are complaining about it.

I also don't raid alot, because I find it to be infinately more boring with all the rules in place. 5 minutes of calculation to me is not fun.

I would call the guys who raid with an army size of 30% in attack 'gamblers' more than anything, they're gambling on the fact nobody murder's 'em before they can recoup their losses.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by Lord Ishurue on Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:43 am


thanks to all who have replied .

i have come to a sorta conclusion .

The term Stat Builders is too broad .
it could be broken down into seperate terms

Military builder
- one who makes their main and/or only focus on military strength . causing their account to have a lagging economy

Economy Builder
- one who makes their main &/or only focus on UP & Income . Causing their accounts to have lagging military strength

Omni Builders
( omni meaning combining all . all form ) . - one who builds their account well balanced in these areas income , UP , military capabilities . They may build these things in cycles or all at same time . Which may cause their army size to grow rapidly when building income then plumet's when building other things .

PTG ( Poser Tough Guys) - one who builds stats &/or high amounts of killables , acts tough . but crumbles & cries when they get crushed .

do these things sound on point based on the replies ?
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Post by Nomad on Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:47 am

what do you call a normal player as it seems to me, these definitions do cover normal players

escpecially the omni one.
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Post by Lord Ishurue on Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:03 am

Nomad wrote:what do you call a normal player as it seems to me, these definitions do cover normal players

escpecially the omni one.

hmm idk . follows the basic advice ?
an Omni may say i need 10k training 10k factories, then get the techs on my main weapons up . then its economy .
were as a normal player , if they get farmed they build defense,. if they get sabbed they train spies . if it takes them too long to train stuff they build construction . ?

does that sound cool to you ?
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Post by curumo on Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:42 am

I'd go with omni myself to be the 'normal' - least in my book Wink

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by Kenzu on Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:19 am

Nimras wrote:
Kenzu wrote:Statbuilders love to have a high rank.
They are known for throwing their resources at military to reach a better rank.
Their rank improves fast at first, then slower and slower, comes to a halt, and when they start asking themselves why, their rank starts to fall faster and faster, because people who were as big as them a couple months before, focused on economy instead, and by now, are 5 times bigger than them, and their small military became even stronger than the bloated military of the statbuilder.

Statbuilder, is someone, who focuses more on military than economy.

Statbuilders are people who sacrifice the most to be strongest, never remain among the strongest, and cannot grasp the importance of a strong economy.

Kenzu not true a prober STAT builder will always focus on Economic as well thats their growth base.

In every game i have been in where i have meet statbuilders they also have a good economic so they can keep their stats and run around proud.

A stat builder is someone who is a cowards and let others fight for him/her.

Saying a stat builder doese not focus on economic is wrong.

I guess a statbuilders means different things to everyone.
For me it's someone who focuses so bad on the stats that he will ultimately loose his rank because of it, and he doesn't even need to be massed for that to happen.
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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by Nimras on Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:51 am

Kenzu wrote:
Nimras wrote:
Kenzu wrote:Statbuilders love to have a high rank.
They are known for throwing their resources at military to reach a better rank.
Their rank improves fast at first, then slower and slower, comes to a halt, and when they start asking themselves why, their rank starts to fall faster and faster, because people who were as big as them a couple months before, focused on economy instead, and by now, are 5 times bigger than them, and their small military became even stronger than the bloated military of the statbuilder.

Statbuilder, is someone, who focuses more on military than economy.

Statbuilders are people who sacrifice the most to be strongest, never remain among the strongest, and cannot grasp the importance of a strong economy.

Kenzu not true a prober STAT builder will always focus on Economic as well thats their growth base.

In every game i have been in where i have meet statbuilders they also have a good economic so they can keep their stats and run around proud.

A stat builder is someone who is a cowards and let others fight for him/her.

Saying a stat builder doese not focus on economic is wrong.

I guess a statbuilders means different things to everyone.
For me it's someone who focuses so bad on the stats that he will ultimately loose his rank because of it, and he doesn't even need to be massed for that to happen.

Never seen that.

Every single game where i have meet stat builders they always looked like this: 60% Military and 40% economic. Where the normal non stat builders are 60% economic and 40% Military roughly. There is the few really stupid stats builders they go 80% military and 20% economic but you also meet the really stupid non stat builders who think they are doing them self a favour with 20% military and 80% economic as they end up being the best farms until they learn.

Saying they have no economic is wrong as a statbuilder needs it to build and stay ahead and they will do it.

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Re: definition of a stat builder

Post by seaborgium on Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:18 pm

I have seen players stay 100% military in other games, just bc they can farm the others who have 8% eco units

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Post by stars on Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:53 am

This has been quite a joy to read because I never thought of it certain ways from what I have read ^_^. Thanks for the topic

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