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should reset affect main?

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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Casshern on Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:40 pm

Admin wrote:
Nimras wrote:and if you read here on the VOTE most of the players is against it here as well
There is no poll about whether or not a bonus being given on main in return for playing on reset, see reply to casshern above who made the same fallacious conclusion

how exactly does this not fit with the poll already asked. If you give a bonus for playing rest in main that mean that rest affects main but anyway since that poll wasn't right, i created another with a more direct question. please find it here. http://aderanwars.forumotion.com/general-discussion-f1/should-there-be-a-bonus-given-on-main-for-playing-reset-thread-for-poll-t1802.htm#21492
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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Casshern on Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:44 pm

Capt_Blood wrote:
And one final point, this game is not our's it belongs to Admin and he's the person who does all of the work and pays all of the bills. Some may Donate and are rewarded for that but I doubt that the amount of donations go anywhere near paying all of the bills so I will support anything that Admin wants to do to try and improve the player base.
I disagree here. the admin pays the bills but the money for this comes from players buying stuff on the cash market. There is not many people that would keep a game like this going out of there own pockets without donations. Also bringing in an update like this makes this game more like gw with linked ascended and main
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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Admin on Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:06 pm

Casshern wrote:how exactly does this not fit with the poll already asked.
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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Nimras on Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:05 pm

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Nimras wrote:and if you read here on the VOTE most of the players is against it here as well
There is no poll about whether or not a bonus being given on main in return for playing on reset, see reply to casshern above who made the same fallacious conclusion

No there is a POLL asking if RESET SHOULD AFFECT MAIN.

So basicly what the poll does is it not only take care of the BONUS it takes care of everything.

What you have in this vote is a proof that most voted NO we do not want the RESET to AFFECT MAIN server WHAT SO EVER.

No if people VOTE NO to RESET should AFFECT MAIN then they also vote no to the Bonus you talk about as well as any other thing you ever could come up with.

Therefore what i posted was true.

I know very well what the poll says but the poll takes everything up and dilivers a big NO therefore you can't deny my post what so ever.

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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Kenzu on Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:26 pm

There is nothing wrong with giving an incentive to people who play reset server. Afterall the more people play, the better for the server.

And it seems that people seem to care much more about whether a bonus is given, than about how much this bonus will be.
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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by kingkongfan1 on Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:29 pm

Kenzu wrote:There is nothing wrong with giving an incentive to people who play reset server. Afterall the more people play, the better for the server.

And it seems that people seem to care much more about whether a bonus is given, than about how much this bonus will be.

You just do not get it, & I doubt you ever will...
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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Ne0 on Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:44 pm

maybe,
on 2 conditions:

1) there has to be an announcement for every round the reset server gives bonus to main, before the round starts.
(this means the rounds that just ended dosen't qualify for bonus to the main)

2) Player activity should be the main focus of the bonus, Not Military experience.
(this means that, someone who logs in the first day donates money to get huge army and pummels everyone in sight but never logs in again, shouldn't get more bonus than, someone who plays everyday but never attacks anyone.)
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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Kingofshinobis1 on Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:55 pm

So when do we see what kind of achievement points we have obtained in the last reset and where do we find them?

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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Nomad on Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:51 pm

What you don't seem to be able to grasp Kenzu, are these things.

1. It wasnt announced until AFTER reset was launched.

2. The exacts of it still have not been defined even now AFTER the round has ended as Admin has stated war experiance is counted and you say it pure rank.

3. IF you have to BRIBE someone to play a game, well it says alot about the game doesn't it?

4. Why do you find it fair to give an even bigger advantage to someone simply because they are active when they already have a massive advantage just from being active? I mean you think it would be fair for myself, and you to play main, for the exact same amount of time, using the same amount of AT, raiding the same amount of UU, but in the end one or the other of us is given an advantage because they played another game that is not tied to this one in any way shape or form?

Heck, why not give all us SGW players bonuses for playing SGW? Or Dune, or any other MMORPG? I can see a set up like ascended where the games are tied and you can effect people in one from the other, but thats not the case here, so WHY the ties between the games?
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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Casshern on Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:06 am

i'm not going to even to try discuss this anymore. i totally disagree with it (especially since it was announced after rest started) but since admin views his opinion as infallible, what can we the non omnipotent people do to get our views across
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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by seaborgium on Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:46 am

I know a few other updates that we can say the same thing.

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Re: reset server affecting main

Post by Capt_Blood on Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:10 am

Hmmm, I would hardly call 25 votes a reflection of the overall opinion of the active player base.

I would also have to say that the tone of some of the comments here are more likely to make people want to leave the forum rather than post their own opinion.
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