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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:21 pm

When he spied me and saw my strike of 9mil, he posted my strike beforehand in the reset war thread so he obviously knew what it was. And when he first hit me only 1.2mil power hit him back. Obviously something was wrong
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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by r1maru on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:25 pm

hmm... it's easy to point fingers, history of mankind proved it

in the past we have burned sorcerer women that couldn't prove their innocence

but then again, that's another story

what i want to ask the admin is to check the logs on aspire, vesper said aspire was the first victim

are there any logs there that "FOR SURE" were noticed by the attackers??
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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:31 pm

Perhaps you should have did a quick recon on aspire and his 0 assassin power before you came here and posted.
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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:34 pm

damgood wrote:Why is it so hard to believe that he just didn't saw something was wrong ?
No one EVER masses another person without checking how much damage they are dealing.

There's 2 options:
He was extremely negligent
He saw exactly what he was meant to see

either way it's not an excuse

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Post by adrian on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:37 pm

[quote="Admin"]
damgood wrote:

either way it's not an excuse

true. now can we get the things fixed, recieve my penalty and get over it?

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Post by r1maru on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:39 pm

Admin wrote:either way it's not an excuse


right... let's burn the witch Twisted Evil

i'd say we torture him until he says he's guilty Twisted Evil
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Post by damgood on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:05 pm

plese let us know the verdict admin Smile

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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:12 pm

vesper got his stuff back, adrian gets a 12 hour break from the game, obviously he doesn't get the turns used back

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Post by adrian on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:16 pm

can you please delete my account? thank you.

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Post by damgood on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:17 pm

I find this decision unfair . Therefore I will stop playing reset
because this server is compromised. Let's see how much fun
they will have playing alone ...

Adrian told you clearly that he didn't noticed the bug, accepted
he was wrong, expected to get the penalty and get over it but
giving Vesper the units back I don't understand !

If you don't accept that sometimes humans make mistakes than
you have a problem.

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Post by r1maru on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:17 pm

LOL... this is the shittiest solution possible, how can you give that guy all his stuff back???

i will not play the reset anymore

translating a saying from my country, you guys can wash your head with the reset server
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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:21 pm

vesper got the units back because adrian lost no units while attacking, I see no reason why vesper should lose them either


and about him not playing reset, too bad.
If vesper had no strike why did he even bother doing destruction missions.
Tell me he didn't notice how his strike didn't drop at all after destroying vesper's, is a blatant lie.

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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by damgood on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:23 pm

Admin wrote:vesper got the units back because adrian lost no units while attacking, I see no reason why vesper should lose them either


and about him not playing reset, too bad.
If vesper had no strike why did he even bother doing destruction missions.
Tell me he didn't notice how his strike didn't drop at all after destroying vesper's, is a blatant lie.

As I have said . You don't accept and won't believe that humans can make mistakes...

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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:27 pm

humans can make mistakes, not looking at your stats after you mass someone is a definite lie.

not once have I witnessed someone not looking at their leftover strike after massing on AW
"how much strike you got left" is probably one of the most asked questions in msn convo's

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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by adrian on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:29 pm

now admin. I understand your skepticism, I admited I was wrong, but I will not tolerate you to make me a liar . lets end it here, and not make posts just to make them... what is done can't be undone, so let's drop it

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Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:35 pm

It would make no sense to not let me have my units back. Being I would have not even lost half of what I lost when adrian did hit me. Him assaulting me would have made him lose more units then I lost per hit and he would have gradually fallen weaker and weaker doing less and less damage. My strike would have never fallen below 5mil before adrian was losing 2 times as much as I was.
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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:39 pm

r1maru wrote:how can you give that guy all his stuff back???
Do you have a reason why vesper should not get his units back?

adrian lost none, vesper also shouldn't lose any.
I see no logic in not returning vesper's units

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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by adrian on Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:53 pm

how about instead you would have simulated the attacks I made on vesper with the script fixed, and then applyied me a penalty?

That is what I would have called a good and wise decision, and I'm sure nobody would have complained of it.

I think you prefered the easiest shortcut, but after all it's your game.

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Post by r1maru on Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:47 pm

let me tell you all what's the truth here

vesper was massed because he farmed me last night four times

adrian doesn't have the covert capacity to scout vesper, so i was the eye here

when we started massing, i was spying vesper regularly

i was like: he is down to 8mil... now hes down to 7 mil.... keep attacking.......

we were all excited he's going down that we did not realized stuff like "wait we are loosing too little, could it be a bug?"

no, this happened after we posted the results on forum, and vesper pointed the problem

in my msn convo, that i have it opened since more than 5 hours, you can see clearly when was the exact time we figured out it's a problem

and that's the same time vesper did

ofcourse i am not going to show the convo, because i don't think i have to prove anything

like in court, you don't have enough evidence, you don't prosecute the guy

there's no proof here, just some people thinking that it's impossible not to notice something

anyway, don't matter anymore

i quit playing aderan, main and reset

i wish those that knew me to have fun, that is the most important thing, have fun anyway you feel like it, speak your minds, do stuff

but remember it's a game, and games in virtual spaces should not take over our lifes, so don't forget to also take break, go to a picnic with your loved ones

otherwise you might realize it's been years in which, even if you were in the same house with your family, you were not close to them

things like this you can't take back, and no admin can give them back to you


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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by melonhead on Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:50 pm

if no one lost any units..he should at least get his turns back....
fair is fair..
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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:37 pm

He will not be getting his turns back because he abused a bug I believe. When I abused the baseO bug and lost all my spies with sabbing everyone I sabbed recieved resources back, but I never got my spies back. It makes sense. I believe that damgood, r1, and adrian are made because they lost their element of surprise.

They are whining because I farm them alot. Being there are maybe 15 people worth farming on the server not really an option here.

Damgood your the last person that should whine about being farmed. I believe it was you and Rflash that used to farm me 3 times a day on main.

"If you're farmed don't cry.
Increase defense or use relaxed/critical"

I get farmed at night 2 r1maru. I drop my income to limit how much others get from me.
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Post by r1maru on Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:08 pm

Vesper wrote:"If you're farmed don't cry.
Increase defense or use relaxed/critical"

I get farmed at night 2 r1maru. I drop my income to limit how much others get from me.

are you sane?

r1maru wrote:let me tell you all what's the truth here

vesper was massed because he farmed me last night four times

i said that you got massed because, not that i cry because

i also said


r1maru wrote:like in court, you don't have enough evidence, you don't prosecute the guy

there's no proof here, just some people thinking that it's impossible not to notice something

so please spare me of your writings in which you talk about using a bug... WE HAVE NOTICED WHEN YOU POINTED IT OUT... subject is closed...

don't bother to reply

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Post by r1maru on Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:16 pm

i write of massing, he reads of whining

geez


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Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:30 pm

r1maru wrote:like in court, you don't have enough evidence, you don't prosecute the guy
I am very happy that we're not in court here, then again there's no way I could punish 80% of the people who do crap but place their bet on plausible deniability if I had to follow the double standards of courts.

However if you wish to continue your premise of a court system, should anyone wish to present actual arguments (see spoiler on the meaning of what an argument is) I will listen to them, maybe I have missed some important points.
Spoiler:
An argument is a set of one or more meaningful declarative sentences (or "propositions") known as the premises along with another meaningful declarative sentence (or "proposition") known as the conclusion. A deductive argument asserts that the truth of the conclusion is a logical consequence of the premises; an inductive argument asserts that the truth of the conclusion is supported by the premises.
So far the only one to have presented any arguments was vesper himself.
Claims like it's an unfair decision or whatever are on the level of hearsay as they are unverified statements and have no place in a court of law.


adrian wrote:I think you prefered the easiest shortcut, but after all it's your game.
The easiest shortcut would have been for you or damgood to have contacted me so that I fix the problem in a minute and you continue your massing.
It's always the same groups of people writing in the same style.

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Post by r1maru on Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:03 am

allot of bla bla

this will be my last post


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