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Post by Kingofshinobis1 on Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:23 pm

Ok, I wake up this morning to see my RAW reduced to 15 from 23. What is up with that? I know when I went to sleep last nice I had 31 total >.>

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Post by r1maru on Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:38 pm

Kingofshinobis1 wrote:Ok, I wake up this morning to see my RAW reduced to 15 from 23. What is up with that? I know when I went to sleep last nice I had 31 total >.>

i am no programmer so i can't say for sure, but it could be from people's curses
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Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:44 pm

the prophet is right, it's the curse

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Post by Kingofshinobis1 on Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:55 pm

Admin wrote:the prophet is right, it's the curse

Ugh, Whats the real reason lol. I am pretty confused as to why my 1/4 - 1/2 half a bil kuwal have gone to waste >_<

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Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:10 pm

changing races as if it were your underwear

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Post by Kingofshinobis1 on Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:19 pm

Sad Well yeah but I'm sure I won't the only one >.> and its not like I did it that much to lose close to 400mil kuwal Sad Oh well I guess.

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Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:36 pm

as with all the other instances.

It'd be retardedly silly if i simply removed only what you potentially gained, where's the justice in that?

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Post by Kingofshinobis1 on Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:17 pm

The plague is upon us lol.

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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:16 pm

I changed race from huala to miraya, then to daning, then to kyora, then to daning , then back to kyora, then to haula paying full price for the last change.

So 5 changes. After I changed from kyora to huala for 25mil my rate to change is now 19mil. So I think we can assume 20mil per change roughly? 5 changins = 100mil which is maybe 2 UP cost. I paid 3mil per change so -15mil. So by using a strategy to get my units trained in a focus instead of letting the free units be randomly placed that admin later decided was wrong I got 85mil gain to my account. I then had over 350mil investment removed from my UP. I choose not to get the upgrades when I changed race so that only the units would be more focused in what they were trained as. You seemed to remove my strike which caused me to be assaulted and destructed on. So you took away the gain I gained by changing race by taking away the units I gained as daning. If i stayed huala I would have received those units as something else regardless so to simply take away those units makes no sense. Then also taking away 350mil + in UP investment makes even less sense.

What could you possible gain from changing races when you don't get the upgrades other then a more focused set of free units? I paid 3mil to have my units trained as strike units instead of defense units. Then admin decides, well it seems people are finding out good strategies early on, maybe I should make it harder.
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Post by r1maru on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:26 pm

mate, i don't know what to say, but from what i've seen in the past, it's not really about calculating exactly how much you've won from exploiting, it's about using it and not reporting it

i'm just saying
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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:27 pm

If you do not wish to play with the race you currently have, you can go to the reset page and change it. The cost will remain at zero until you make any new research.
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Significantly reduced cost to change race, so if you want to change your race, this is the time to do so, for the option will not remain for very long

What strategy are you talking about?
And then explain to me where I said that whatever strategy you're talking about was intended to be used.

Then I'll reply "You should have asked"
If you want "stategies" and, most important of all, "features" then go play some other game, jason is very lenient on those. Nomad can tell you a couple stories about that.

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Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:30 pm

oh yeh I just noticed you said something about taking units, I haven't taken any units whatsoever.
Taking units away wouldn't make any sense whatsoever

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Re: UP Reduced??????

Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:45 pm

How did my strike go from 9mil down to 1.2mil then? Wasnt sabbed, wasnt assassinated. I had 14 destructions done to me costing me 130 units total. Being I had nearly 5k strike units then lost 130 and ended up with 1k Not sure how the game mechanics are on reset but I am fairly certain 5,000 - 130 does not equal 1,000.

My last attacks last night
[13 Jul] 05:34 Keinutnai 17,964,648 Kuwal Stolen 10 16 77 5,567,336 8,928,920 details
[13 Jul] 05:33 HVK 15,096,504 Kuwal Stolen 10 16 111 11,252,560 8,959,170 details

The first destruction against me
[13 Jul] 10:48 adrian Victory 16 11 10,219,904 1,231,938 details
[13 Jul] 10:48 adrian Victory 16 11 10,793,798 1,284,783 details

So can anyone explain where 7,750,000 power went all of the sudden? Weapons and Units both vanished.

Perhaps admin should look at my logs himself and he can say what happened. If it wasn't really you that took away the units and weapons I am sorry for accusing him but then there is something seriously wrong with the game.


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Post by adrian on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:48 pm

Your strike went to heaven

http://aderanwars.forumotion.com/war-room-f39/reset-1st-victim-t1747.htm

The battle log looked like this

With 9,509,015 power remaining, adrian's army charges forward engaging Vesper's own offensive troops.
History will tell that 463 troops will have fallen to this force by the end of the battle.

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Post by damgood on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:50 pm

Vesper, in the logs you see your defence action.
If you check the assault logs you will see your armies
have deal more damage.

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Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:54 pm



http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

So can anyone explain what happened to the logs?
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Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:56 pm

hmm, funny, something screwed up.
damgood, your friend is in trouble now, I just looked at the logs and I saw something your friend has definitely noticed too.

vesper you're supposed to READ the report that's what he meant Smile, the logs basic view only displays defense and defense units lost.

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Post by adrian on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:00 pm

Admin wrote:hmm, funny, something screwed up.
damgood, your friend is in trouble now, I just looked at the logs and I saw something your friend has definitely noticed too.



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Post by damgood on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:01 pm

Admin wrote:hmm, funny, something screwed up.
damgood, your friend is in trouble now, I just looked at the logs and I saw something your friend has definitely noticed too.

vesper you're supposed to READ the report that's what he meant Smile, the logs basic view only displays defense and defense units lost.

What's wrong ?

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Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:02 pm

I still have no logs at all of being hit when I still had my 9mil strike. The final attack is my remaining defense power. Its highly possible that the strike never kicked in which is why my strike was losing 500 units per hit and was killing 15. It would also explain why the power hitting back at him was 1.2mil instead of 9mil. Should have hit back over 10mil which would have given him higher loses through out the attacks.
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Post by Vesper on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:04 pm

With 9,509,015 power remaining, adrian's army charges forward engaging Vesper's own offensive troops.
History will tell that 463 troops will have fallen to this force by the end of the battle.

2,662 Super Soldiers, 2,496 Regular Soldiers and 0 Mercenaries were already awaiting their univited visitors.

2662 Super Soldiers were armed with Grenade Launcher
1084 Regular Soldiers were armed with Grenade Launcher
1412 Regular Soldiers came unarmed

These forces return fire and inflict 0 damage to their opponents!
As a result of this 0 invaders have lost their lives!

That is what is wrong. My strike never fought back. It is impossible for adrian to not notice this. Killing 463 units and losing no units at all doesn't raise any flags for you? You are the one that told me to check the details which means you obviously knew about it as well.
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Post by damgood on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:10 pm

Vesper wrote:With 9,509,015 power remaining, adrian's army charges forward engaging Vesper's own offensive troops.
History will tell that 463 troops will have fallen to this force by the end of the battle.

2,662 Super Soldiers, 2,496 Regular Soldiers and 0 Mercenaries were already awaiting their univited visitors.

2662 Super Soldiers were armed with Grenade Launcher
1084 Regular Soldiers were armed with Grenade Launcher
1412 Regular Soldiers came unarmed

These forces return fire and inflict 0 damage to their opponents!
As a result of this 0 invaders have lost their lives!

That is what is wrong. My strike never fought back. It is impossible for adrian to not notice this. Killing 463 units and losing no units at all doesn't raise any flags for you? You are the one that told me to check the details which means you obviously knew about it as well.

I told him to show me a log in detail and it seems you have used you defence forces instead of 70% of your strike.

It is a bug.

EDIT: By the way he didn't saw it. I am talking on MSN with him right now.
After seing admin's post we have checked things out and saw they were wrong.

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Post by adrian on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:13 pm

yeah, definetely a bug, wich i didn;t noticed; (my 1st successful destruction mission); but it's still my fault for not noticing it;

so admin, do what you got to do Wink

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Post by Admin on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:14 pm

hence your friend being in trouble

edit: first i'll find out why it works on main server but doesn't work on reset considering the files in use are IDENTICAL

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Post by damgood on Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:19 pm

Admin wrote:hence your friend being in trouble

edit: first i'll find out why it works on main server but doesn't work on reset considering the files in use are IDENTICAL

Why is it so hard to believe that he just didn't saw something was wrong ?

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