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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Nomad on Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:57 am

- Paypal integration for donating tested successfully. ETA for SS purchase Sunday server Time 10:00
- Purchase will currently be paypal only.

Admin wrote:small update on this, instead of permanent trading bonuses I will probably put in that you get trading ability only for a set period of time.

I.e.
Basic Supporter Package (price 10$):
- Trading ability given for 9 months
Protection Package (price 10$):
- 2 Day protection
- Very few market reserves
Normal Supporter Package (price 25$):
- Trading ability given for 12 months
- Protection for 2 Days
- Some resources extra
- Bank increase 15% of raw size
- A few market reserves
Grand Supporter Package (price 50$):
- Trading ability given for 15 months
- Protection for 2 Days
- Bank increase 40% of raw size
- Some resources extra (around 2.5 Times more than Normal SP)
- A several market reserves

The market reserves is so that if the bank increase is not enough you can spend them on increasing the bank additionally, or get another protection after a week or whatever.

The protection you get is not additive to the 2 day protection you can get on the ingame market, i'll probably simply prevent anyone from buying or receiving a Normal, Grand or the protection package if they were on a 2 day protection in the last week. Because I wanted to prevent anyone from being able to receive more than 1 package per week anyway.

So considering you can get a 9 month extension for 10$ i think even those who do not have access to paypal or anything should be able to get it through ingame trades.

I'll also think of some other extra features for the different packages maybe but I'll have to be careful cos i want someone who didn't buy the Grand Package not to be in a disadvantage to someone who bought it.
So I think the differences will be mostly cosmetic, for a better gameplay experience

Admin wrote:Grand supporter package might maybe allow users to use colors for their usernames.

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Although if i go through with this i still have a few issues to solve, i.e. efficient storage in database, etc.

Is there anything else we need to know or that you can tell us at this time?
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Admin on Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:05 pm

that one was from a while ago, working on the new rates
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Admin on Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:57 pm

In each case the protection is NOT granted if the recipient was on a 48 hour protection in the last week (you will receive 5 Market Reserves instead).
If that is the case it will get highlighted IN FAT RED LETTERS that the recipient already had his protection this week.

Trading ability times will stack. If you have 6 months left and you buy the basic then you will have trading ability for the next year.

10$ Protection (No time limit):
- 48 Hour Protection
- 2 Market Reserves

10$ Basic Donator Package (No time limit):
- Trading ability given for 240 Days

25$ Normal Donator Package (Not more than 1 Every Week):
- 48 Hour Protection
- Trading ability given for 270 Days
- ~19 mil Kuwal (based on server production)
- ~1k UU's (based on server production)
- ~150 At's (based on market)
- 10% Bank increase
- 2 Market Reserves
- 1 Name Change

50$ Ultimate Donator Package (Not more than 1 Every 2 Weeks):
- 48 Hour Protection
- Trading ability given for 365 Days
- ~43 mil Kuwal (based on server production)
- ~2.3k UU's (based on server production)
- ~380 At's (based on market)
- 20% Bank increase
- 5 Market Reserves
- 1 Name Change
- 1 Personal Bonus Change (You can only change your bonus every 2 months)

100$ VIP Donator Package (Not more than 1 Every Month, not available for purchase right from start ~2 week delay):
- 48 Hour Protection
- Permanent Trading ability given
- ~107 mil Kuwal (based on server production)
- ~5.75k UU's (based on server production)
- ~950 At's (based on market)
- 50% Bank increase
- 10 Market Reserves
- 2 Name Changes
- 2 Personal Bonus Change (You can only change your bonus every 2 months)

100$ VIP Donator Package Option 2:
Same as the other VIP donator package but:
- You can buy it instantly
- You receive 50$ worth of benefits immediately
- You get the rest of the benefits 2 weeks later (changes in package size will get obviously considered)

Probably some more extras added for the 50$ and 100$ package later, the game will remember which was the best you ever purchased.

Now the discussion:
Purchase Limit would be 75$ per month, it will recover in daily increments, cap at 100$.
Should this limit get used up for both the purchasing AND the receiving players (is to limit so that multiple people cannot donate to one person's favor nor that one person can purchase for many others)?
Or should there only be a limit to how many donations can one account receive, but no limit on how many an account can donate for others

Example:
Player A has 50$ limit left.
Player B has 75$ limit left.
B buys 25$ donator package for A.

Option 1)
Player A has 25$ limit left.
Player B has 50$ limit left.

Option 2)
Player A has 25$ limit left.
Player B has 75$ limit left.


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Re: Supporter Status

Post by rflash on Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:13 pm

Option 3)

Player A has 50$ limit left.
Player B has 50$ limit left.


It's clear that Player B will receive game resources for the 25$ that's bigger then what he will get from the purchase itself ..... so if his limit stays at 75$ he could buy SS for 100 people and get a huge ammount of resources.

So option 2 is BAD.

Now between option 1 and option 3. Option 3 is a bit more logical, but on the other hand it's quite possible that in the trade to be included resources from other games, so player A who has a very good account in game X could buy a few packages ..... so just to be on the safe side I'd go with option 1.

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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Nomad on Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:42 pm

I agree with rflash. Limit both the buyer and the seller.

It is really you who gets effected the most as it will cut into your profit, but for the overall health of the game I think its necissary. Besides, if they are going to buy their way to the top they are going to do it no matter what. this just means it will get spread out over time, and not 1 lump sum.

My question now is, If player X buys 4 people the 25$ package, then he turns around and hits them for resources to pay for the packages he bought them, will your scipts pick him up as a "shady character"? From what I see so far only Kewal and UU(thats raided) can be traded for SS. And I doubt anyone can pay the Kewal cost as its going to be fairly high considering the buyer cant have the AT, and has to burn AT, repair cost, and UU to raid any UU to be recieved.

Off the wall question. Is it possible to code it so the buyer can recieve the benifits from the packages? all save the trading ability? Maybe at a reduced rate? Maybe not all benifits like the reserves and larger bank, but atleast the Kewal, UU, and some % of the AT?

Logic behind this is, I personally would rather help get SS on everyone in the game over buying multiple SS for myself. BUT I also have to do whats best for my account and if I only get a small % of what I can buy myself from buying someone else a SS then it makes no sense.

May not be worth the effort or trouble, just a thought.
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Admin on Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:07 pm

trade broker will support people paying you stuff in return for you buying the package for them. So technically in that case you will get full benefit of that donation in terms of ingame resources only without anything else.

and why would anyone buy someone a package and then hit them for the resources. He'd be off better to just donate for himself then.

+ the thing you mean is the introduction of a pure cash market, yes it will be introduced, but I still need to have a go at the rates and the same limits as for donating will apply.
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Admin on Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:13 pm

added VIP package option 2, mostly cos someone asked me about it and i think it still keeps things fair
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Nomad on Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:20 pm

You covered all my issues, Thanks.
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by rflash on Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:31 pm

Admin wrote:added VIP package option 2, mostly cos someone asked me about it and i think it still keeps things fair

Please clarify :

1. You get HALF the bonus now and HALF in 2 weeks.

2. You get the bonus from the 50$ package now and the difference in 2 weeks.

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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Admin on Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:38 pm

rflash wrote:
Admin wrote:added VIP package option 2, mostly cos someone asked me about it and i think it still keeps things fair

Please clarify :

1. You get HALF the bonus now and HALF in 2 weeks.

2. You get the bonus from the 50$ package now and the difference in 2 weeks.
well you get 50$ worth of resources when you buy it, then 2 weeks later the difference in resources from the 100$ and the 50$ gets taken and that's what you'll get. (cos the amount will rise in the 2 weeks)

so the 2.
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Kenzu on Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:52 pm

In a simple example where the only resource would be untrained units (uu)

If now a 50$ package gives you say 1500 uu, and in 2 weeks a 50$ gave you 1700 uu, so if you buy a 100$ package you will get 1500 uu now and 1700 uu in 2 weeks.
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Lord Pegasus on Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:52 am

so it will be released later today then ?

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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Beanz on Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:33 am

I think the best option is one where the recipient has their limit reduced only, but also have trading limits. That way 1 person could buy lots of people SS's (good for martin and the game) but after a limit (about 3 SSs worth?) of resources they can't recieve any more for buying lots of people SS, so they would have to trade for something else, or something later on in the game.

Alternatively, take from both people and don't have the trading limit.

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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Admin on Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:38 am

Beanz wrote:of resources they can't recieve any more for buying lots of people SS, so they would have to trade for something else, or something later on in the game.
And considering it'd be impossible to differentiate between normal trading and repaying stuff for Donations it'd result in basically getting your trading ability cut for some duration of time.

I think the limit being reduced for both targets is the best option.
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Kenzu on Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:53 pm

Admin wrote:
Beanz wrote:of resources they can't recieve any more for buying lots of people SS, so they would have to trade for something else, or something later on in the game.
And considering it'd be impossible to differentiate between normal trading and repaying stuff for Donations it'd result in basically getting your trading ability cut for some duration of time.

I think the limit being reduced for both targets is the best option.

I agree, receiver and donator should both have limits which are used as SS is bought.
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Beanz on Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:00 pm

Just another thought I had for the $100 option 2; I presume that the $50 should stay the same (in equivalent resources) over time, so would buying that give you the $50 resources straight off, and then when the $100 comes out, that minus the then current $50 resources.

So if you bought it and got 1500 UUs, but then when the $100 is released $100 should give 4500 UUs, and $50 should give 2000 UUs, you'd get 1500 more (not 2000 more) UUs?

I hope this is what you mean by changes in packet sizes, because if not, then Sad

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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Admin on Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:15 pm

Beanz wrote:So if you bought it and got 1500 UUs, but then when the $100 is released $100 should give 4500 UUs, and $50 should give 2000 UUs, you'd get 1500 more (not 2000 more) UUs?

I hope this is what you mean by changes in packet sizes, because if not, then Sad

Example:
100$ now = 4k uu's
50$ now = 1.5k uu's

100$ in 2 weeks = 5k uu's
500$ in 2 weeks = 2k uu's

If you buy the 100$ now you'll get 1.5k uu's now and 3k uu's in 2 weeks. Net wise you appear to be getting less than if you'd buy it in 2 weeks (5k) but remember that you will have 1.5k uu's working for you creating income for 2 weeks which will negate out any difference in net gains.
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Nomad on Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:53 pm

Supporter release IMMIMENT last checks are being done
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by chaos on Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:19 pm

wanring, do no ttry unles admin put up that it is safe !
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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Lord Pegasus on Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:39 pm

quote*Supporter release IMMIMENT last checks are being done* is it just me or are these final steps taking a ....... long time

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Post by Admin on Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:43 pm

yeh lol, technically should be ok now. I'd just need one more test subject to be fully certain
whoever wants to volunteer
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Post by Lord Pegasus on Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:48 pm

what needs testing ?

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Post by Admin on Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:48 pm

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Re: Supporter Status

Post by Admin on Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:26 pm

ok, can't really find it but i know i promised somewhere or to someone direct sending of resources will get added.

well added
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Post by Nomad on Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:55 pm

so now you can send stuff to a nonSS person right?

but Non SS people can't? or can they?
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