Is there a point to having a defense at all?

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by Kingofshinobis1 on Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:22 pm

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Kingofshinobis1 wrote:Apparently you had AT LEAST 20bil kuwal out. Of course you will not be safe with that ridiculous amount out in the open. What were you expecting?
more like 20 mil, you should check again how much got stolen really Wink

As to why someone would complain about losing 4 mil kuwal and killing 1k units is beyond me though

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by Nimras on Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:50 pm

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Kingofshinobis1 wrote:Apparently you had AT LEAST 20bil kuwal out. Of course you will not be safe with that ridiculous amount out in the open. What were you expecting?
more like 20 mil, you should check again how much got stolen really Wink

As to why someone would complain about losing 4 mil kuwal and killing 1k units is beyond me though

BEcause ADMIN he like me do not find it right that just because you came and lost still get 1 single DIME.

This is a war game we have a def because we want people to beat it not to cheat around it damn cheating game. Full of cheaters starting with admin :p.

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[27 Jun] 01:37 xxxxxx 4,914,223 Kuwal Stolen 1 310 30 1,191,385,196 4,776,690,600 details

Enemy Damage 1,191,385,196
Your Damage 4,776,690,600
Result 4,914,223 Kuwal Stolen

is this not damn weird? stealing my kuwal even though i was 4 times stronger


LATER EDIT: i noticed that we have active moderators... cool... Smile



Hey we are a groupe starting to mass and sit on all players doing what you just had happen to you until they QUIT the game or STOP if your intrested in being in and help let me know the more the better Smile.

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:33 pm

Admin wrote:As to why someone would complain about losing 4 mil kuwal and killing 1k units is beyond me though

because it's not about the amount of kuwal lost, it's about loosing kuwal when you have a defense 4 times bigger than the strike

i guess i will think about nimras proposal

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by Nomad on Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:37 am

This has been in the game all this time and none of you bothered to read the updates or the months of discussion about it?

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Now Admins a cheat hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Good luck with your project guys. Hope you both know your own alliance mates and leaders(or ex mates and leaders) do it LOL
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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by Kenzu on Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:24 am

I sympathise with the people who are against smaller strikes farming bigger defenses. It's a pity that people cannot all agree.
But there is also a logical explanation why smaller strike should still be able to steal from a bigger defense

flwpwr wrote:
[27 Jun] 01:37 xxxxxx 4,914,223 Kuwal Stolen 1 310 30 1,191,385,196 4,776,690,600 details

Enemy Damage 1,191,385,196
Your Damage 4,776,690,600
Result 4,914,223 Kuwal Stolen

is this not damn weird? stealing my kuwal even though i was 4 times stronger


LATER EDIT: i noticed that we have active moderators... cool... Smile



I guess this is possible because the people who attack you attack the weakest spot in the defense and that's why they can still steal some of your kuwal. Since they arent strong enough to face all of your armies, they are not able to fight everyone and take kuwal from all your territories. That's how I see it.
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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by seaborgium on Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:34 am

Wow, gulp

Kenzu posted a very interesting way to think about it. Also it make sense.

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by Magnus on Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:03 am

Kenzu wrote:I sympathise with the people who are against smaller strikes farming bigger defenses. It's a pity that people cannot all agree.
But there is also a logical explanation why smaller strike should still be able to steal from a bigger defense

flwpwr wrote:
[27 Jun] 01:37 xxxxxx 4,914,223 Kuwal Stolen 1 310 30 1,191,385,196 4,776,690,600 details

Enemy Damage 1,191,385,196
Your Damage 4,776,690,600
Result 4,914,223 Kuwal Stolen

is this not damn weird? stealing my kuwal even though i was 4 times stronger




LATER EDIT: i noticed that we have active moderators... cool... Smile



I guess this is possible because the people who attack you attack the weakest spot in the defense and that's why they can still steal some of your kuwal. Since they arent strong enough to face all of your armies, they are not able to fight everyone and take kuwal from all your territories. That's how I see it.

Nice one cheers Perfect way to explain it
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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by Miglow on Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:34 am

Considering how the last several pages have gone, I just have one question:

Is there a point to having this discussion at all?

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:16 am

Nomad wrote:Good luck with your project guys. Hope you both know your own alliance mates and leaders(or ex mates and leaders) do it LOL

you talkin' to me? I don't see anyone else here...


anyway... this is a game, not real life, so whoever comes with stuff like few attackers escape and manage to take some kuwal is just BS
i have much bigger defense then the attacker should get nothing... end of discussion from my point of view about this shitty feature...


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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by Manleva on Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:33 am

Ok, Time for a reality check.

The simple fact of the matter is that my 1 super soldier armed with a feather duster Very Happy is so highly trained that hes better than 50 of your lazy super soldiers who are sleeping in their main battle tank Sleep

That a player who's strike is smaller than the person he attacks defense is no reason to suggest that they should always loose.
If you want to add some reality then there have been of occasions when a smaller force has defeated a much larger one.

I believe that Admin and others have more that made their point.
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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:40 am

Manleva wrote:If you want to add some reality.....


yeah, that exactly what i wanted.... you're good, you figured it out right away...

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by curumo on Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:13 am

Seriously lol ... instead of complaining (time and time again) and having been shown A GOOD REASONING by top members in top alliances (and admin himself), please, could you just not USE it for your own good? It's a good feature. Without it the top alliances and players would be UNTOUCHABLE - if you don't know what I mean you clearly didn't fight a REAL war here. This is Admin's game. Period. We play by what he came up with and how he imagines it. No way around it. And tbh it's a lot more fun than any other MMORPG I've played ... and if anyone has problems with an update or a game feature ... as Nomad put it - there is a frigging UPDATES forum for you to take it to. There is no point to this discussion. Rolling Eyes

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:26 am

curumo wrote:Seriously lol ... instead of complaining (time and time again) and having been shown A GOOD REASONING by top members in top alliances (and admin himself), please, could you just not USE it for your own good? It's a good feature. Without it the top alliances and players would be UNTOUCHABLE - if you don't know what I mean you clearly didn't fight a REAL war here. This is Admin's game. Period. We play by what he came up with and how he imagines it. No way around it. And tbh it's a lot more fun than any other MMORPG I've played ... and if anyone has problems with an update or a game feature ... as Nomad put it - there is a frigging UPDATES forum for you to take it to. There is no point to this discussion. Rolling Eyes


no i can't use it 'cause i like to complain...

there are people that share my opinion and if you do not, it doesn't mean the discussion is over


i guess you want to end the discussion because it's your name where i've put xxxxxx in the first place.... hmm....

[27 Jun] 01:37 curumo 4,914,223 Kuwal Stolen 1 310 30 1,191,385,196 4,776,690,600 details

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by curumo on Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:49 am

Actually I had no idea or could care less but thanks for using me as an example Wink

I'll be seeing you around Wink

EDIT: Thanks for telling me who you are Wink

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by buhcoreTheGreat on Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:57 am

curumo wrote:Actually I had no idea or could care less but thanks for using me as an example Wink

I'll be seeing you around Wink

EDIT: Thanks for telling me who you are Wink

i would like to know who you are as well so we can avoid future conflicts
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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:58 am

lol... if you read my messages you find out who i am... i have never hide it...

like i am sure the admin and few others that read my posts know...




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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by buhcoreTheGreat on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:00 am

flwpwr wrote:lol... if you read my messages you find out who i am... i never hide it...

like i am sure the admin and few others know...

no im too lazy to do that, and i never said ur hiding it, ur trying to avoid it?
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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by buhcoreTheGreat on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:00 am

flwpwr wrote:lol... if you read my messages you find out who i am... i never hide it...

like i am sure the admin and few others know...

no im too lazy to do that, and i never said ur hiding it, are you trying to avoid telling?

edit: there's a fancy feature called PM


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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:01 am

buhcoreTheGreat wrote:
flwpwr wrote:lol... if you read my messages you find out who i am... i never hide it...

like i am sure the admin and few others know...

no im too lazy to do that, and i never said ur hiding it, ur trying to avoid it?


i am the one who got banned on the forum Razz


well, i don't know i guess i am disappointed that not everyone heard of me Sad

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by curumo on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:03 am

Buhcore I'm Curumo ingame, it's quite easy to find me there, I'm sure Wink Very Happy

Flwpwr - If you were banned ... isn't creating an alterante forum persona circumvention of the ban?

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:04 am

my ban expired 1-2 days ago, can't you tell?


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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by buhcoreTheGreat on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:04 am

flwpwr wrote:
buhcoreTheGreat wrote:
flwpwr wrote:lol... if you read my messages you find out who i am... i never hide it...

like i am sure the admin and few others know...

no im too lazy to do that, and i never said ur hiding it, ur trying to avoid it?


i am the one who got banned on the forum Razz


well, i don't know i guess i am disappointed that not everyone heard of me Sad

well yeah i thought you were magnus cuz i remember magnus and r1maru were banned and magnus created new acc? the one you're using now and thats what confuses me now because i already said ur magnus but u denied it Neutral

nvm got the pm Razz


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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:05 am

magnus did not created another account.... i did

i got banned

LATER EDIT:
i like this id more 'cause it's flwpwr from flower power... you know like a strike power of 4 times smaller but still gets kuwal, isn't that right curumo?

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by curumo on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:27 am

Indeed R1maru ... but you know what's better? Oh well no ... I'm not gonna say it ... you'll see for yourself Wink

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Re: Is there a point to having a defense at all?

Post by flwpwr on Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:34 am

lol... you make me laugh

you think i care about your threats?

don't tell me... i will get massed

LOL

it is war between our alliances, don't you know??

it doesn't surprise me if i get massed... duh....


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