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Post by Hai-Shulud on Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:22 pm

Kenzu wrote:I didn't say that I don't care if I am the best.
Of course I want to be the best, but that doesn't mean that I will do it at any cost.

If becomming the best would mean that 10 players will leave the game, then I rather stay 2nd best than force these 10 players to leave.

Meeh thats loser talk, if 10 people left the game cos you wer THAT good then firstly id take my hat off to you and secondly those 10 people are really really sad people.
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Post by Vesper on Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:01 pm

Kenzu wrote:Not really. We play less, because we choose to do so. It is not a shortcomming, it is a different playing style.
I wouldn't have against playing a game, where your success doesn't depend so much on how much time you spend on it.

This game does NOT depend on how much time you spend on it. It is purely what you do with the time you are on it. I am now logging in the 2nd time today and spent maybe 30 secs on each time. Now I will spend approximately 5 to 10 minutes checking forums, then go make tea, then shower, and leave.

Kenzu wrote:If becomming the best would mean that 10 players will leave the game, then I rather stay 2nd best than force these 10 players to leave.
It is very easy to be the best without making people quit. I really have no idea what your getting at here. If you mass people to be the best you are taking one bad approach since to masss somebody costs you money and actually slows down your quest. You will actually be better off hitting inactives and keeping to yourself.
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Post by Alex on Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:51 am

I think Kenzu was just giving an example, showing us that he wouldn't do EVERYTHING to be number 1. His example was not meant to be taken literally.

-Alex


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Post by Kenzu on Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:07 am

Alex wrote:I think Kenzu was just giving an example, showing us that he wouldn't do ANYTHING to be number 1. His example was not meant to be taken literally.

-Alex

Anything means nothing.
I guess you wanted to say "Everything"
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Post by Alex on Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:12 am

Kenzu wrote:
Alex wrote:I think Kenzu was just giving an example, showing us that he wouldn't do EVERYTHING to be number 1. His example was not meant to be taken literally.

-Alex

Anything means nothing.
I guess you wanted to say "Everything"

Thanks edited Razz

I assume by you not saying I was wrong I was correct in what I said?

-Alex
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Post by Jiro on Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:49 pm

I may be late to this thread, but average power per amry size cannot be compared meaningfully between the different sizes:
-For a starting player who sold most of his UU to increase UP and who has maybe 20 soldiers with grenade launchers in order to do farming and to prevent farming, as well as 20 spies and assassins, his power per army size would be huge. It does not mean he is focusing on military.
-A below AE player has a very different income / UU than an above AE player. Since the comparison is between a focus on economy (income + UP) and military strength, power per army size gets warped and the numbers cease to mean anything.

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Post by Admin on Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:22 am

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Post by Lord Ishurue on Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:20 am

Jiro wrote:I may be late to this thread, but average power per amry size cannot be compared meaningfully between the different sizes:
-For a starting player who sold most of his UU to increase UP and who has maybe 20 soldiers with grenade launchers in order to do farming and to prevent farming, as well as 20 spies and assassins, his power per army size would be huge. It does not mean he is focusing on military.
-A below AE player has a very different income / UU than an above AE player. Since the comparison is between a focus on economy (income + UP) and military strength, power per army size gets warped and the numbers cease to mean anything.

I did the same thing Vesper did for alliance income , but for Total up . These numbers are an estimate but probably pretty close to the real ones .

TIE 48 members
Total UP 687,264
Average total up per member 14,318


Mujengan 29 members
Total UP 350,099
Average per member 12,072


WR 85 members
Total UP 475,776
Average per member 5,597
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Post by ian on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:34 pm

ian wrote:Hey guys.

Figured it would be nice to have a active topic which isn't a war topic, update topic or a "hello" topic on this forum Smile So... i figured what better way than to (where possible) keep an active track of the main alliance's progress on Aderan Wars - and use a couple of different way's to measure them against one another, and to illustrate/ draw out patterns between the different alliances and what they seem to focus on doing Very Happy

The Imperium

The Imperium Total Army size: 126,197,194
Number of Members: 50.
Total Power: 151,175,932,869
Member War Experience: 754,053,716

Average Army Size per member: 2,523,943
Average Power Per Member: 3,023,518,657
Average Experience Per Member: 15,081,074

Average Power Per Army Size: 1197.9

Mujengan (FIRE)

Mujengan Total Army Size: 31,395,344
Number of Members: 26
Total Power: 44,122,138,781
Member War Experience: 359,485,552

Average Army Size per member: 1,207,513
Average Power Per Member: 1,697,005,337
Average Experience Per Member: 13,826,367

Average Power Per Army Size: 1405.3

World Republic (O):

World Republic Total Army Size: 40,363,408
Number of Members: 82
Total Power: 62,709,893,162
Member War Experience: 445,138,829

Average Army Size per member: 492,236
Average Power Per Member: 764,754,794
Average Experience Per Member: 5,428,522

Average Power Per Army Size: 1553.6

Pohida

Pohida Total Army Size: 18,645,368
Number of Members: 9
Total Power: 23,424,159,869
Member War Experience: 41,803,152

Average Army Size per member: 2,071,707
Average Power Per Member: 2,602,684,429
Average Experience Per Member: 4,644,794

Average Power Per Army Size: 1256

Emperors:

Emperors Total Army Size: 18,002,690
Number of Members: 6
Total Power: 22,483,110,215
Member War Experience: 10,041,798

Average Army Size per member: 3,000,448
Average Power Per Member: 3,747,185,035
Average Experience Per Member: 1,673,633

Average Power Per Army Size: 1248.8

Total Members in the top 5 alliances: 173
Total Army Size in the top 5 alliances: 234,604,004
Total Power of The top 5 alliances: 303,915,234,896
Total War Experience between the top 5 alliances: 1,610,523,047

Hey guys.

Figured i d update this to allow the various alliances and players to see how things have changed. The last update was Febuary the 15th - so 58 days ago.

The Imperium

The Imperium Total Army size: 170,590,370 - an increase of 44,393,176 since last update
Number of Members: 50 - unchanged since last update
Total Power: 233,586,088,181 - an increase of 82,410,155,312 since last update
Member War Experience: 1,054,215,269 - an increase of 300,161,553 since last update.

Average Army Size per member: 3,411,807 - an increase of 887,864 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 4,671,721,76 - an increase of 1,648,203,106 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 21,084,305 - an increase of 6,003,231 since last update.

Average Power Per Army Size: 1369.2 - an increase of 171.3

Mujengan (FIRE)

Mujengan Total Army Size: 68,764,115 - increase of 37,368,771 since last update
Number of Members: 38 - increase of 12 members since last update
Total Power: 108,998,931,370 - increase of 64,876,792,589
Member War Experience: 904,508,269 - increase of 545,022,717 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 1,809,581 - increase of 602,068 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 2,868,392,930 - increase of 1,171,387,593 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 23,802,849 - increase of 9,976,482 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1580.5 - an increase of 275.

World Republic (O):

World Republic Total Army Size: 72,643,669 - an increase of 32,280,261 since last update
Number of Members: 98 - an increase of 16 members since last update
Total Power: 124,164,518,470 - an increase of 61,454,625,308 since last update
Member War Experience: 661,246,712 - an increase of 216,107,883 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 741,261 - an increase of 249,025 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 1,266,984,882 - an increase of 502,230,008 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 6,747,415 - an increase of 1,318,892 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1709.2 - an increase of 155.6 since last update

Pohida

Pohida Total Army Size: 23,834,146 - an increase of 5,188,778 since last update
Number of Members: 8 - an decrease of 1 member since last update
Total Power: 35,370,841,657 - an increase of 11,946,681,788 since last update
Member War Experience: 40,145,389 - an decrease of 1,657,763 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 2,979,268 - an increase of 907,561 since last update 2,071,707
Average Power Per Member: 4,421,355,207 - an increase of 1,818,670,778 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 5,018,173 - an increase of 373,379 since last update.

Average Power Per Army Size: 1484 - an increase of 228 since last update.

Emperors:

Emperors Total Army Size: 28,260,505 - an increase of 10,257,815 since last update
Number of Members: 12 - an increase of 6 members since last update
Total Power: 36,144,885,568 - an increase of 13,661,775,353
Member War Experience: 45,852,023 - an increase of 35,810,225

Average Army Size per member: 2,355,042 - an decrease of 645,405 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 3,012,073,797 - an decrease of 735,111,237 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 3,821,001 - an increase of 2,147,368 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1278.9 - an increase of 30 since last update.

In order to compare them in the next update, I ll now include New Federation (FIRE) into the above as well - making them the 6th race to be included:

New Federation (FIRE)

New Federation Total Army Size: 12,182,648
Number of Members: 7
Total Power: 15,729,468,217
Member War Experience: 38,792,511

Average Army Size per member: 1,740,378
Average Power Per Member: 2,247,066,888
Average Experience Per Member: 5,541,787

Average Power Per Army Size: 1291

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Total Members in the top 6 alliances: 206 - an increase of 33
Total Army Size in the top 6 alliances: 376,275,453 - an increase of 141,671,449
Total Power of The top 6 alliances: 553,994,733,463 - an increase of 250,079,498,567
Total War Experience between the top 6 alliances: 2,744,760,173 - an increase of 1,134,237,126

Player, Army Size, Power & Experience Distrubution among the top 6 alliances:

The Imperium Empire accounts for 24.2% of the players, 45.34% of the army size, 42.16% of the power and 38.41% of the war experience.
The FIRE Empire accounts for 21.8% of the players, 21.51% of the army size, 22.51% of the power and 34.37% of the war experience.
World Republic accounts for 47.57% of the players, 19.31% of the army size, 22.41% of the power and 24.09% of the war experience.
Emperors account for 5.83% of the players, 7.51% of the army size, 6.52% of the power and 1.67% of the war experience.
Pohida accounts for 3.88% of the players, 6.33% of the army size, 6.38% of the power and 1.46% of the war experience.
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A brief summary of the above (though feel free to make of the above as you will):

Pohida & Emperors remain in the top 6 alliances on the basis of history alone - that they were on Aderan Wars from close to the beginning and their members are consequently generally among the oldest, largest and strongest. Pohida's large increase in average army size can be accounted for by the drop of a member - likely a small member which had dragged their average down in the previous update.

The lack of substantial increases in eithier average army size or the experience per member would point to minimal activity. Its likely if other alliances currently not in the top 6 are eithier created, or existing alliances become more efficient at growth, that both alliances will be easily replaced within the top 6 on Aderan Wars.

World Republic's growth in both average army size & member experience is commendable when you consider the increase in their memberbase by 18 members - of which pretty much all of those new members will have been new players, so would drag the averages down considerably. Whether or not they can sustain it remains to be seen given World Republic has a history of consistentlyunderperforming when compared to other active alliances.

The growth in Average Power Per Army Size falling short of both The Imperium's and FIRE's growth should be welcomed. When coupled with the reasonable growth in army size it points to a increased concentration on economic investment - something which World Republic desperately needs to continue when you consider that of the 2 superpowers (The Imperium and FIRE) their average economic strength is but a fraction (1/2 - 1/3, maybe even a 1/4).

Whether or not World Republic can reverse its 18month long decline in power & influence on Aderan Wars remains to be seen, and the next several months will be vital if it is have any hope of halting the growing gap between itself and Aderan War's 2 superpowers - and it has a very very long way to go if it is to regain its original position of power and status as superpower. Economic investment & activity, coupled with a strong leadership with a willingness to encourage/demand members focus upon these aspects, will decide whether the decline of World Republic and its O Empire can be halted, and then reversed.

FIRE

The 2 alliances making up the FIRE empire - Mujengan & New Federation - continue to perform exceptionally strongly in both activity and growth in general. The gap between FIRE and the rest of Aderan War's other alliances continues to widen - with their growth rivalled only by The Imperium. As the youngest of the major power's, FIRE's overall performance and achievement at overtaking almost every other alliance/ empire, and becoming the only other superpower on Aderan Wars, reflects strongly upon the calibre and capabilities of their members. There are great expectations placed upon FIRE's continued performance Smile.

The Imperium Empire

The Imperium continues to generally out perform the other major powers and the server in general, retaining its status as one of Aderan War's 2 superpowers. However it is worth noting that overall, in terms of the portion of the server controlled by The Imperium - in terms of % of players now playing Aderan Wars, % of server-wide power & % of server-wide economy - The Imperium has experienced a significant reduction as Aderan Wars has continued to expand in players, and those players have developed. This rebalancing of the server should be welcomed... as a single power having a large monopoly will only lead to a stale atmosphere and potentially damage Aderan Wars.
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Re: Aderan's Alliances - balance, strategies etc...

Post by Kenzu on Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:21 pm

ian, nice update!

Alex wrote:
Kenzu wrote:
Alex wrote:I think Kenzu was just giving an example, showing us that he wouldn't do EVERYTHING to be number 1. His example was not meant to be taken literally.

-Alex

Anything means nothing.
I guess you wanted to say "Everything"

Thanks edited Razz

I assume by you not saying I was wrong I was correct in what I said?

-Alex

yeah, exactly

All in all you were right in what you meant.
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Post by kingkongfan1 on Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:47 pm

ian wrote:
ian wrote:Hey guys.

Figured it would be nice to have a active topic which isn't a war topic, update topic or a "hello" topic on this forum Smile So... i figured what better way than to (where possible) keep an active track of the main alliance's progress on Aderan Wars - and use a couple of different way's to measure them against one another, and to illustrate/ draw out patterns between the different alliances and what they seem to focus on doing Very Happy

The Imperium

The Imperium Total Army size: 126,197,194
Number of Members: 50.
Total Power: 151,175,932,869
Member War Experience: 754,053,716

Average Army Size per member: 2,523,943
Average Power Per Member: 3,023,518,657
Average Experience Per Member: 15,081,074

Average Power Per Army Size: 1197.9

Mujengan (FIRE)

Mujengan Total Army Size: 31,395,344
Number of Members: 26
Total Power: 44,122,138,781
Member War Experience: 359,485,552

Average Army Size per member: 1,207,513
Average Power Per Member: 1,697,005,337
Average Experience Per Member: 13,826,367

Average Power Per Army Size: 1405.3

World Republic (O):

World Republic Total Army Size: 40,363,408
Number of Members: 82
Total Power: 62,709,893,162
Member War Experience: 445,138,829

Average Army Size per member: 492,236
Average Power Per Member: 764,754,794
Average Experience Per Member: 5,428,522

Average Power Per Army Size: 1553.6

Pohida

Pohida Total Army Size: 18,645,368
Number of Members: 9
Total Power: 23,424,159,869
Member War Experience: 41,803,152

Average Army Size per member: 2,071,707
Average Power Per Member: 2,602,684,429
Average Experience Per Member: 4,644,794

Average Power Per Army Size: 1256

Emperors:

Emperors Total Army Size: 18,002,690
Number of Members: 6
Total Power: 22,483,110,215
Member War Experience: 10,041,798

Average Army Size per member: 3,000,448
Average Power Per Member: 3,747,185,035
Average Experience Per Member: 1,673,633

Average Power Per Army Size: 1248.8

Total Members in the top 5 alliances: 173
Total Army Size in the top 5 alliances: 234,604,004
Total Power of The top 5 alliances: 303,915,234,896
Total War Experience between the top 5 alliances: 1,610,523,047

Hey guys.

Figured i d update this to allow the various alliances and players to see how things have changed. The last update was Febuary the 15th - so 58 days ago.

The Imperium

The Imperium Total Army size: 170,590,370 - an increase of 44,393,176 since last update
Number of Members: 50 - unchanged since last update
Total Power: 233,586,088,181 - an increase of 82,410,155,312 since last update
Member War Experience: 1,054,215,269 - an increase of 300,161,553 since last update.

Average Army Size per member: 3,411,807 - an increase of 887,864 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 4,671,721,76 - an increase of 1,648,203,106 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 21,084,305 - an increase of 6,003,231 since last update.

Average Power Per Army Size: 1369.2 - an increase of 171.3

Mujengan (FIRE)

Mujengan Total Army Size: 68,764,115 - increase of 37,368,771 since last update
Number of Members: 38 - increase of 12 members since last update
Total Power: 108,998,931,370 - increase of 64,876,792,589
Member War Experience: 904,508,269 - increase of 545,022,717 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 1,809,581 - increase of 602,068 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 2,868,392,930 - increase of 1,171,387,593 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 23,802,849 - increase of 9,976,482 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1580.5 - an increase of 275.

World Republic (O):

World Republic Total Army Size: 72,643,669 - an increase of 32,280,261 since last update
Number of Members: 98 - an increase of 16 members since last update
Total Power: 124,164,518,470 - an increase of 61,454,625,308 since last update
Member War Experience: 661,246,712 - an increase of 216,107,883 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 741,261 - an increase of 249,025 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 1,266,984,882 - an increase of 502,230,008 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 6,747,415 - an increase of 1,318,892 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1709.2 - an increase of 155.6 since last update

Pohida

Pohida Total Army Size: 23,834,146 - an increase of 5,188,778 since last update
Number of Members: 8 - an decrease of 1 member since last update
Total Power: 35,370,841,657 - an increase of 11,946,681,788 since last update
Member War Experience: 40,145,389 - an decrease of 1,657,763 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 2,979,268 - an increase of 907,561 since last update 2,071,707
Average Power Per Member: 4,421,355,207 - an increase of 1,818,670,778 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 5,018,173 - an increase of 373,379 since last update.

Average Power Per Army Size: 1484 - an increase of 228 since last update.

Emperors:

Emperors Total Army Size: 28,260,505 - an increase of 10,257,815 since last update
Number of Members: 12 - an increase of 6 members since last update
Total Power: 36,144,885,568 - an increase of 13,661,775,353
Member War Experience: 45,852,023 - an increase of 35,810,225

Average Army Size per member: 2,355,042 - an decrease of 645,405 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 3,012,073,797 - an decrease of 735,111,237 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 3,821,001 - an increase of 2,147,368 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1278.9 - an increase of 30 since last update.

In order to compare them in the next update, I ll now include New Federation (FIRE) into the above as well - making them the 6th race to be included:

New Federation (FIRE)

New Federation Total Army Size: 12,182,648
Number of Members: 7
Total Power: 15,729,468,217
Member War Experience: 38,792,511

Average Army Size per member: 1,740,378
Average Power Per Member: 2,247,066,888
Average Experience Per Member: 5,541,787

Average Power Per Army Size: 1291

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Total Members in the top 6 alliances: 206 - an increase of 33
Total Army Size in the top 6 alliances: 376,275,453 - an increase of 141,671,449
Total Power of The top 6 alliances: 553,994,733,463 - an increase of 250,079,498,567
Total War Experience between the top 6 alliances: 2,744,760,173 - an increase of 1,134,237,126

Player, Army Size, Power & Experience Distrubution among the top 6 alliances:

The Imperium Empire accounts for 24.2% of the players, 45.34% of the army size, 42.16% of the power and 38.41% of the war experience.
The FIRE Empire accounts for 21.8% of the players, 21.51% of the army size, 22.51% of the power and 34.37% of the war experience.
World Republic accounts for 47.57% of the players, 19.31% of the army size, 22.41% of the power and 24.09% of the war experience.
Emperors account for 5.83% of the players, 7.51% of the army size, 6.52% of the power and 1.67% of the war experience.
Pohida accounts for 3.88% of the players, 6.33% of the army size, 6.38% of the power and 1.46% of the war experience.
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A brief summary of the above (though feel free to make of the above as you will):

Pohida & Emperors remain in the top 6 alliances on the basis of history alone - that they were on Aderan Wars from close to the beginning and their members are consequently generally among the oldest, largest and strongest. Pohida's large increase in average army size can be accounted for by the drop of a member - likely a small member which had dragged their average down in the previous update.

The lack of substantial increases in eithier average army size or the experience per member would point to minimal activity. Its likely if other alliances currently not in the top 6 are eithier created, or existing alliances become more efficient at growth, that both alliances will be easily replaced within the top 6 on Aderan Wars.

World Republic's growth in both average army size & member experience is commendable when you consider the increase in their memberbase by 18 members - of which pretty much all of those new members will have been new players, so would drag the averages down considerably. Whether or not they can sustain it remains to be seen given World Republic has a history of consistentlyunderperforming when compared to other active alliances.

The growth in Average Power Per Army Size falling short of both The Imperium's and FIRE's growth should be welcomed. When coupled with the reasonable growth in army size it points to a increased concentration on economic investment - something which World Republic desperately needs to continue when you consider that of the 2 superpowers (The Imperium and FIRE) their average economic strength is but a fraction (1/2 - 1/3, maybe even a 1/4).

Whether or not World Republic can reverse its 18month long decline in power & influence on Aderan Wars remains to be seen, and the next several months will be vital if it is have any hope of halting the growing gap between itself and Aderan War's 2 superpowers - and it has a very very long way to go if it is to regain its original position of power and status as superpower. Economic investment & activity, coupled with a strong leadership with a willingness to encourage/demand members focus upon these aspects, will decide whether the decline of World Republic and its O Empire can be halted, and then reversed.

FIRE

The 2 alliances making up the FIRE empire - Mujengan & New Federation - continue to perform exceptionally strongly in both activity and growth in general. The gap between FIRE and the rest of Aderan War's other alliances continues to widen - with their growth rivalled only by The Imperium. As the youngest of the major power's, FIRE's overall performance and achievement at overtaking almost every other alliance/ empire, and becoming the only other superpower on Aderan Wars, reflects strongly upon the calibre and capabilities of their members. There are great expectations placed upon FIRE's continued performance Smile.

The Imperium Empire

The Imperium continues to generally out perform the other major powers and the server in general, retaining its status as one of Aderan War's 2 superpowers. However it is worth noting that overall, in terms of the portion of the server controlled by The Imperium - in terms of % of players now playing Aderan Wars, % of server-wide power & % of server-wide economy - The Imperium has experienced a significant reduction as Aderan Wars has continued to expand in players, and those players have developed. This rebalancing of the server should be welcomed... as a single power having a large monopoly will only lead to a stale atmosphere and potentially damage Aderan Wars.

@IAN - I know that you probably didn't mention the Black Dragons because we weren't around when you origionally made this post; so your failure to mention the smallest active alliance in this game can be overlooked with no hard feelings... just want everyone to know that we may be small now; but the good thing about being small is the ability to grow... & I guarantee that if I have my way; the Dragons will be a force to be reckoned with in this game... nuff said... king
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Post by Kenzu on Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:19 pm

Maybe it's time for an update on alliances?

Current ranking of TOP 10:

1 The.Imperium.Empire ian 297,420,004,363 1,193,069,766 52
2 Mujengan_(FIRE) Ishurue 158,147,737,147 1,152,609,227 39
3 World_Republic_(O) Keinutnai 157,357,202,041 731,449,368 67
4 Emperors Aworon 43,924,463,732 60,041,505 11
5 POHIDA ^SPEED^ 47,282,584,626 45,892,662 8
6 New Federation (FIRE) Jiro 15,970,110,974 28,276,933 5
7 Black_Dragons Paladius 12,905,516,264 40,400,407 6
8 Brothers In Arms Mighty_AmonRe 10,710,584,627 21,908,980 3
9 Paispe jack5000 4,041,284,032 17,687,033 1
10 Night Stalkers Dannon 883,174,127 52,105,027 4

PS: I welcome more detailed info on the major alliances, like before.
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Post by ian on Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:26 pm

ian wrote:
The Imperium

The Imperium Total Army size: 170,590,370 - an increase of 44,393,176 since last update
Number of Members: 50 - unchanged since last update
Total Power: 233,586,088,181 - an increase of 82,410,155,312 since last update
Member War Experience: 1,054,215,269 - an increase of 300,161,553 since last update.

Average Army Size per member: 3,411,807 - an increase of 887,864 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 4,671,721,76 - an increase of 1,648,203,106 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 21,084,305 - an increase of 6,003,231 since last update.

Average Power Per Army Size: 1369.2 - an increase of 171.3

Mujengan (FIRE)

Mujengan Total Army Size: 68,764,115 - increase of 37,368,771 since last update
Number of Members: 38 - increase of 12 members since last update
Total Power: 108,998,931,370 - increase of 64,876,792,589
Member War Experience: 904,508,269 - increase of 545,022,717 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 1,809,581 - increase of 602,068 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 2,868,392,930 - increase of 1,171,387,593 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 23,802,849 - increase of 9,976,482 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1580.5 - an increase of 275.

World Republic (O):

World Republic Total Army Size: 72,643,669 - an increase of 32,280,261 since last update
Number of Members: 98 - an increase of 16 members since last update
Total Power: 124,164,518,470 - an increase of 61,454,625,308 since last update
Member War Experience: 661,246,712 - an increase of 216,107,883 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 741,261 - an increase of 249,025 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 1,266,984,882 - an increase of 502,230,008 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 6,747,415 - an increase of 1,318,892 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1709.2 - an increase of 155.6 since last update

Pohida

Pohida Total Army Size: 23,834,146 - an increase of 5,188,778 since last update
Number of Members: 8 - an decrease of 1 member since last update
Total Power: 35,370,841,657 - an increase of 11,946,681,788 since last update
Member War Experience: 40,145,389 - an decrease of 1,657,763 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 2,979,268 - an increase of 907,561 since last update 2,071,707
Average Power Per Member: 4,421,355,207 - an increase of 1,818,670,778 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 5,018,173 - an increase of 373,379 since last update.

Average Power Per Army Size: 1484 - an increase of 228 since last update.

Emperors:

Emperors Total Army Size: 28,260,505 - an increase of 10,257,815 since last update
Number of Members: 12 - an increase of 6 members since last update
Total Power: 36,144,885,568 - an increase of 13,661,775,353
Member War Experience: 45,852,023 - an increase of 35,810,225

Average Army Size per member: 2,355,042 - an decrease of 645,405 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 3,012,073,797 - an decrease of 735,111,237 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 3,821,001 - an increase of 2,147,368 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1278.9 - an increase of 30 since last update.

In order to compare them in the next update, I ll now include New Federation (FIRE) into the above as well - making them the 6th race to be included:

New Federation (FIRE)

New Federation Total Army Size: 12,182,648
Number of Members: 7
Total Power: 15,729,468,217
Member War Experience: 38,792,511

Average Army Size per member: 1,740,378
Average Power Per Member: 2,247,066,888
Average Experience Per Member: 5,541,787

Average Power Per Army Size: 1291

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Total Members in the top 6 alliances: 206 - an increase of 33
Total Army Size in the top 6 alliances: 376,275,453 - an increase of 141,671,449
Total Power of The top 6 alliances: 553,994,733,463 - an increase of 250,079,498,567
Total War Experience between the top 6 alliances: 2,744,760,173 - an increase of 1,134,237,126

Last Update: April the 8th. Today: April 28th

The Imperium

The Imperium Total Army size: 201,886,864 - an increase of 31,296,494 since last update
Number of Members: 50 - no change
Total Power: 298,786,941,493 - an increase of 65,200,853,312 since last update
Member War Experience: 1,193,564,671 - an increase of 139,349,402 since last update.

Average Army Size per member: 4,037,737 - an increase of 625,930 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 5,975,738,830 - an increase of 1,304,017,070 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 23,871,293 - an increase of 2,786,988 since last update.

Mujengan (FIRE)

Mujengan Total Army Size: 92,214,700 - increase of 23,450,585 since last update
Number of Members: 39 - increase of 1 members since last update
Total Power: 158,317,830,723 - increase of 49,318,899,353
Member War Experience: 1,152,751,283 - increase of 248,243,014 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 2,364,479 - increase of 554,898 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 4,059,431,557 - increase of 1,191,038,627 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 29,557,725 - increase of 5,754,876 since last update

World Republic (O):

World Republic Total Army Size: 88,853,765 - an increase of 16,210,096 since last update
Number of Members: 67 - an decrease of 31 members since last update
Total Power: 157,357,202,041 - an increase of 33,192,683,571 since last update
Member War Experience: 731,449,368 - an increase of 70,202,656 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 1,326,176 - an increase of 584,915 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 2,348,614,956 - an increase of 1,081,630,074 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 10,917,155- an increase of 4,169,740 since last update

Pohida

Pohida Total Army Size: 27,032,352 - an increase of 3,198,206 since last update
Number of Members: 8 - no change
Total Power: 47,591,437,554 - an increase of 12,220,595,897 since last update
Member War Experience: 46,019,302 - an increase of 5,873,913 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 3,379,044 - an increase of 399,776 since last update 2,071,707
Average Power Per Member: 5,948,929,694- an increase of 1,527,574,487 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 5,752,413 - an increase of 734,240 since last update.

Emperors:

Emperors Total Army Size: 32,151,291- an increase of 3,890,786 since last update
Number of Members: 11 - an decrease of 1 members since last update
Total Power: 43,924,463,732 - an increase of 7,779,578,164
Member War Experience: 60,041,505 - an increase of 14,189,482

Average Army Size per member: 2,922,845- an increase of 567,803since last update
Average Power Per Member: 3,993,133,067- an increase of 981,059,270 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 5,458,319- an increase of 1,637,318 since last update

New Federation (FIRE)

New Federation Total Army Size: 11,662,441 - an decrease of 520,207 since last update
Number of Members: 5 - an decrease of 2 since last update
Total Power: 15,970,110,974 - an increase of 240,642,757
Member War Experience: 28,276,933 - an decrease of 10,515,578 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 2,332,488 - an increase of 592,110
Average Power Per Member: 3,194,022,195 - an increase of 946,955,307
Average Experience Per Member: 5,655,387 - an increase of 113,600

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In order to include them in future comparisons, i ll include Black Dragons below:

Black Dragons

Black Dragons Total Army Size: 6,609,831
Number of Members: 6
Total Power: 13,012,636,572
Member War Experience: 40,404,446

Average Army Size per member: 1,101,639
Average Power Per Member: 2,168,772,762
Average Experience Per Member: 6,734,074

Total Members in the top 7 alliances: 186 - an decrease of 20
Total Army Size in the top 7 alliances: 455,055,283 - an increase of 78,779,830
Total Power of The top 7 alliances: 734,960,623,089 - an increase of 180,965,889,626
Total War Experience between the top 7 alliances: 3,252,507,508 - an increase of 507,747,335


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Re: Aderan's Alliances - balance, strategies etc...

Post by kingkongfan1 on Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:52 pm

ian wrote:
ian wrote:
The Imperium

The Imperium Total Army size: 170,590,370 - an increase of 44,393,176 since last update
Number of Members: 50 - unchanged since last update
Total Power: 233,586,088,181 - an increase of 82,410,155,312 since last update
Member War Experience: 1,054,215,269 - an increase of 300,161,553 since last update.

Average Army Size per member: 3,411,807 - an increase of 887,864 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 4,671,721,76 - an increase of 1,648,203,106 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 21,084,305 - an increase of 6,003,231 since last update.

Average Power Per Army Size: 1369.2 - an increase of 171.3

Mujengan (FIRE)

Mujengan Total Army Size: 68,764,115 - increase of 37,368,771 since last update
Number of Members: 38 - increase of 12 members since last update
Total Power: 108,998,931,370 - increase of 64,876,792,589
Member War Experience: 904,508,269 - increase of 545,022,717 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 1,809,581 - increase of 602,068 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 2,868,392,930 - increase of 1,171,387,593 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 23,802,849 - increase of 9,976,482 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1580.5 - an increase of 275.

World Republic (O):

World Republic Total Army Size: 72,643,669 - an increase of 32,280,261 since last update
Number of Members: 98 - an increase of 16 members since last update
Total Power: 124,164,518,470 - an increase of 61,454,625,308 since last update
Member War Experience: 661,246,712 - an increase of 216,107,883 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 741,261 - an increase of 249,025 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 1,266,984,882 - an increase of 502,230,008 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 6,747,415 - an increase of 1,318,892 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1709.2 - an increase of 155.6 since last update

Pohida

Pohida Total Army Size: 23,834,146 - an increase of 5,188,778 since last update
Number of Members: 8 - an decrease of 1 member since last update
Total Power: 35,370,841,657 - an increase of 11,946,681,788 since last update
Member War Experience: 40,145,389 - an decrease of 1,657,763 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 2,979,268 - an increase of 907,561 since last update 2,071,707
Average Power Per Member: 4,421,355,207 - an increase of 1,818,670,778 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 5,018,173 - an increase of 373,379 since last update.

Average Power Per Army Size: 1484 - an increase of 228 since last update.

Emperors:

Emperors Total Army Size: 28,260,505 - an increase of 10,257,815 since last update
Number of Members: 12 - an increase of 6 members since last update
Total Power: 36,144,885,568 - an increase of 13,661,775,353
Member War Experience: 45,852,023 - an increase of 35,810,225

Average Army Size per member: 2,355,042 - an decrease of 645,405 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 3,012,073,797 - an decrease of 735,111,237 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 3,821,001 - an increase of 2,147,368 since last update

Average Power Per Army Size: 1278.9 - an increase of 30 since last update.

In order to compare them in the next update, I ll now include New Federation (FIRE) into the above as well - making them the 6th race to be included:

New Federation (FIRE)

New Federation Total Army Size: 12,182,648
Number of Members: 7
Total Power: 15,729,468,217
Member War Experience: 38,792,511

Average Army Size per member: 1,740,378
Average Power Per Member: 2,247,066,888
Average Experience Per Member: 5,541,787

Average Power Per Army Size: 1291

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Total Members in the top 6 alliances: 206 - an increase of 33
Total Army Size in the top 6 alliances: 376,275,453 - an increase of 141,671,449
Total Power of The top 6 alliances: 553,994,733,463 - an increase of 250,079,498,567
Total War Experience between the top 6 alliances: 2,744,760,173 - an increase of 1,134,237,126

Last Update: April the 8th. Today: April 28th

The Imperium

The Imperium Total Army size: 201,886,864 - an increase of 31,296,494 since last update
Number of Members: 50 - no change
Total Power: 298,786,941,493 - an increase of 65,200,853,312 since last update
Member War Experience: 1,193,564,671 - an increase of 139,349,402 since last update.

Average Army Size per member: 4,037,737 - an increase of 625,930 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 5,975,738,830 - an increase of 1,304,017,070 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 23,871,293 - an increase of 2,786,988 since last update.

Mujengan (FIRE)

Mujengan Total Army Size: 86,858,739 - increase of 18,094,624 since last update
Number of Members: 39 - increase of 1 members since last update
Total Power: 158,317,830,723 - increase of 49,318,899,353
Member War Experience: 1,152,751,283 - increase of 248,243,014 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 2,227,147- increase of 417,566 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 4,059,431,557 - increase of 1,191,038,627 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 29,557,725 - increase of 5,754,876 since last update

World Republic (O):

World Republic Total Army Size: 88,853,765 - an increase of 16,210,096 since last update
Number of Members: 67 - an decrease of 31 members since last update
Total Power: 157,357,202,041 - an increase of 33,192,683,571 since last update
Member War Experience: 731,449,368 - an increase of 70,202,656 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 1,326,176 - an increase of 584,915 since last update
Average Power Per Member: 2,348,614,956 - an increase of 1,081,630,074 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 10,917,155- an increase of 4,169,740 since last update

Pohida

Pohida Total Army Size: 27,032,352 - an increase of 3,198,206 since last update
Number of Members: 8 - no change
Total Power: 47,591,437,554 - an increase of 12,220,595,897 since last update
Member War Experience: 46,019,302 - an increase of 5,873,913 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 3,379,044 - an increase of 399,776 since last update 2,071,707
Average Power Per Member: 5,948,929,694- an increase of 1,527,574,487 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 5,752,413 - an increase of 734,240 since last update.

Emperors:

Emperors Total Army Size: 32,151,291- an increase of 3,890,786 since last update
Number of Members: 11 - an decrease of 1 members since last update
Total Power: 43,924,463,732 - an increase of 7,779,578,164
Member War Experience: 60,041,505 - an increase of 14,189,482

Average Army Size per member: 2,922,845- an increase of 567,803since last update
Average Power Per Member: 3,993,133,067- an increase of 981,059,270 since last update
Average Experience Per Member: 5,458,319- an increase of 1,637,318 since last update

New Federation (FIRE)

New Federation Total Army Size: 11,662,441 - an decrease of 520,207 since last update
Number of Members: 5 - an decrease of 2 since last update
Total Power: 15,970,110,974 - an increase of 240,642,757
Member War Experience: 28,276,933 - an decrease of 10,515,578 since last update

Average Army Size per member: 2,332,488 - an increase of 592,110
Average Power Per Member: 3,194,022,195 - an increase of 946,955,307
Average Experience Per Member: 5,655,387 - an increase of 113,600

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In order to include them in future comparisons, i ll include Black Dragons below:

Black Dragons

Black Dragons Total Army Size: 6,609,831
Number of Members: 6
Total Power: 13,012,636,572
Member War Experience: 40,404,446

Average Army Size per member: 1,101,639
Average Power Per Member: 2,168,772,762
Average Experience Per Member: 6,734,074

Total Members in the top 7 alliances: 186 - an decrease of 20
Total Army Size in the top 7 alliances: 455,055,283 - an increase of 78,779,830
Total Power of The top 7 alliances: 734,960,623,089 - an increase of 180,965,889,626
Total War Experience between the top 7 alliances: 3,252,507,508 - an increase of 507,747,335

Thanks for the recognition Ian, we appreciate all who have noticed how hard we are working... king
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Post by Nomad on Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:26 pm

Looks like you guys will be overtaking New Federation soon at the rate you guys are going.
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Post by Vesper on Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:28 am

i believe the spoiler command would have came in very handy for a few sections of this discussion. Shocked
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Post by Kenzu on Sun May 30, 2010 3:31 pm

How about a new update on alliances?

I'm also interested in how Black Dragons have grown.
Their competitions must have helped.
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Post by Miglow on Sun May 30, 2010 7:28 pm

We went down one place. It appears as if the new fed's war experience has skyrocketed.

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Post by Nomad on Sun May 30, 2010 11:32 pm

its jiro and Disco's lil war.
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Post by Paladius on Sun May 30, 2010 11:47 pm

Nomad wrote:its jiro and Disco's lil war.
I kind of figured that was the reason.
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Post by Kenzu on Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:35 pm

A pity there was no update on the alliances before the war. It would have been interesting to see how alliances were like just before the war and how the war changed things.
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Post by Miglow on Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:30 am

It's somewhat amazing at just how much change is happening with this war.

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Post by Kenzu on Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:09 pm

Yeah, and did you hear about the massive global population drop?

Amazing

This is most devastating war of all times!
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