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Post by Kira on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:11 pm

I suggest that if a broker has expired.. then the amount of kuwal or so on should get in bank and NOT public.

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Post by Admin on Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:17 pm

well let's see

1 the trade broker is meant to ensure safe trading between two players
2 doing a trade takes like 5 mins
3 the expiration time is 1 day
4 worst case scenario, you see the exact time when it will expire, meaning you can set an alarm

I really fail to see the need for banking the kuwal, especially considering point 4, it's not like expiration time is random each time

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Post by seaborgium on Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:08 pm

i have to agree with admin

this isn't a game that you play with dolls.

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Post by Nomad on Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:21 pm

well I am a bit torn on this myself. prolly not in the manner you think tho.

why is a rejected trade given time to recover, and a expired trade immediately thrown out in the open? I think they should be more uniform.

here a trade is only good for 24 hrs, and it is alot easier then i first thought to miss that 24 hr mark. if the trades were good for 36 to 48 hrs I think it would happen much less but still.
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Post by Admin on Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:37 am

argumentation accepted nomad, partially...
I can give you a good reason on the rejected one having recovery time Smile

you have no clue when the other guy rejects the trade, but you do know exactly when it will expire.

will probably add a 4-6 hour recovery time for expired brokers

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Post by Nomad on Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:40 am

More then fair. Cool
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Post by Kenzu on Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:41 pm

Nomad wrote:well I am a bit torn on this myself. prolly not in the manner you think tho.

why is a rejected trade given time to recover, and a expired trade immediately thrown out in the open? I think they should be more uniform.

here a trade is only good for 24 hrs, and it is alot easier then i first thought to miss that 24 hr mark. if the trades were good for 36 to 48 hrs I think it would happen much less but still.

I agree with you.

I recommend there will be a compromise, meaning that it will still be thrown out in the open, but there will be a longer waiting period and it will be the same time in every scenario (whether rejected or expired) and will be thrown out in the open 3 days after being made.

If it will be rejected, or expires after 24 hours, a notice should appear in "Recent Events in your realm" saying:
"Your broker has expired, recover your resources from the trade center"
"Your broker has been rejected, recover your resources from the trade center"
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Post by Admin on Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:52 pm

Kenzu wrote:and will be thrown out in the open 3 days after being made.
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Post by Nomad on Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:38 pm

I think 3 days is a bit extreme to.
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Post by seaborgium on Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:51 pm

i like the message part, but i say 12 hours is more then enough.

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Post by Kenzu on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:04 pm

Nomad wrote:I think 3 days is a bit extreme to.

currently we have 2 days. 24 hours to be accepted and after this time expires, 24 hours to recover goods.

Why are 3 days too extreme, but 2 days too little for you?

You prefer 2.000001 days?

How about we extend the time by 1 second so it's not too extreme for you.
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Post by Admin on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:09 pm

actually it's 1 day until expiration
and 12 hours to recover goods after rejecting

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Post by Nomad on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:38 pm

Admin wrote:actually it's 1 day until expiration
and 12 hours to recover goods after rejecting
Exactly
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Post by ioz on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:16 pm

I missed this thread all together.

I suggest 24 hours after rejecting and 24 hours after expiration.

I understand the argument against letting this be too long or unlimited but I don't think that 24 hours is unreasonable.

This would, hopefully, make everyone happy because if you don't log in even once in 24 hours you can't really expect to not lose resources in such a way.

On the other side, if you are inactive due to sleep and/or being busy with something else you can handle your income by using both the motivation tool and the realm state which would allow you to have a good 12+ hours to do your choirs without having to be panicked about losing anything.

If that is allowed when it comes from income why shouldn't be allowed, in a reasonable limit, when it comes to brokers?

Don't like being afraid to trade due to the partner not accepting the broker through rejection or just having the broker expire while I sleep.

The argument about setting the alarm is a little unsettling. This is something that will happen at an exact hour if it's gonna happen. If I have to be at work/school for 8 hours and the broker expires after I leave then this game is not for me or I should start planning my brokers so I don't lose them?

That's just my opinion. Hope something helpful will be implemented concerning this issue.
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Post by Nomad on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:27 pm

What Admin is saying is,

24 hours from the time its made that it CAN BE accepted.

12 additional hours that if expired or rejeceted you can recover.(36 hrs max in "covered" brokerage)

Presently only rejected brokers have the recovery time.

@ Kenzu, either you are mistaken on times or I am completely misunderstanding you one. Either way to me 72 hr hr to me is extreme. If its going to be that long might as well make it bank to bank transfers and be done.
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Post by ioz on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:34 pm

I'm saying you should have 24 hours AFTER the broker expires/gets rejected so a maximum of 48 hours of possible resource stocking (I'm guessing this is what it's about when it comes to being reluctant to extend this too much). Don't think that's unreasonable.

will probably add a 4-6 hour recovery time for expired brokers
4-6 hours doesn't equal 12 anyway Razz
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Post by Nomad on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:53 pm

Its 12 presently for rejected brokers is what i was saying.

I would also like to ask for atleast 8 hr for expired brokers since the day is generally broke down into 8 hr segments, 8 hrs sleep, 8 hr work, 8hrs home.

*Yes I know this is no where near correct for most, just used for generalization pourposes*
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Post by Admin on Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:14 pm

added the broker update

after expiration, you have 12 hours to recover goods, then they go into the open

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Post by ioz on Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:42 pm

Awesome! Thanks uro Smile
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Post by Kenzu on Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:56 pm

ioz wrote:I'm saying you should have 24 hours AFTER the broker expires/gets rejected so a maximum of 48 hours of possible resource stocking (I'm guessing this is what it's about when it comes to being reluctant to extend this too much). Don't think that's unreasonable.

will probably add a 4-6 hour recovery time for expired brokers
4-6 hours doesn't equal 12 anyway Razz

I am also for 24 hours minimum after the broker expired or was rejected.


I would prefer to have 36 hours after the broker expired for it to be recovered.
There can always be unforseen circumstances where you cannot log in within 24 hours after it has been rejected/expired, such as internet stops working, or you are held by some RL duties.
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