Re: World Republic bigger than all top 10 alliances combined!

Sandwalker · by Sandwalker on Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:39 pm

go get em tiger.

Admin · by Admin on Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:13 pm

Nomad · by Nomad on Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:55 am

Kenzu wrote:Now WR is bigger than top 17 alliances combined!

Sorry mate, but your just making yourself look a bit foolish now
Rank Name Leader Total Power Total War Experience Size
1 The Company (TIE) reaper 27,527,698,843 76,706,530 30
2 The Commonwealth (TIE) kilo 8,728,697,107 35,601,758 34
3 World Republic (O) Keinutnai 14,651,363,833 33,489,425 104
4 The Others Reyno 5,492,540,806 36,377,737 9
5 POHIDA ^SPEED^ 1,359,530,142 6,510,273 4
6 Emperors Aworon 5,418,152,609 5,430,040 7
7 Union of Aderan Republics (O) Trotsky 858,726,020 6,479,746 2
8 Brothers In Arms Mighty_AmonRe 857,141,400 1,010,969 1
9 Independents Akteron 441,432,000 711,122 1
10 land of choice alina_plugaru 161,782,844 1,441,892 1
11 Comitatus Unius matrygg 682,823,436 379,263 1
12 Kingdom Mama 386,628,557 438,636 1
13 Removalists liquidforce 105,564,023 319,035 1
14 Federation of independent plan Jiro 175,359,680 195,838 5
15 Merc Evil 89,692,181 524,258 1
16 Hounds of War CJL 38,090,126 125,435 2
17 Urban Empire (O) lil_monsters 179,197,490 222,292 2
18 Symphony of Destruction Zarakai_Kenpachi 10,448,800 104,873 1

11 of those 17 have 1 or 2 men in them. Shall I point out your high count of inactives as well?

Jiro · by Jiro on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:45 am

By the same measure, the Federation of independent planets is the 6th largest alliance. Very Happy

It is true, but it is not very meaningfull, as with most statistics.

souldog · by souldog on Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:45 pm

well if 40 people of your alliance haven't even logged in the month of october you can't even count them in

Kenzu · by Kenzu on Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:30 pm

[quote="Nomad"]

Kenzu wrote:Shall I point out your high count of inactives as well?

=> We kick inactives out regularly. WR is an alliance filled with active players.

souldog wrote:well if 40 people of your alliance haven't even logged in the month of october you can't even count them in

Roughly 90% logged in, within the last days. (80% within 24 hours).

souldog · by souldog on Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:37 pm

what you lying 40 people hvaen't logged in untill somewhere in september that's like 40 % of your alliance size

Vesper · by Vesper on Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:20 pm

largest member base is very impressive. 3rd rank alliance army size is still a accomplishment to be proud of Very Happy

Kenzu · by Kenzu on Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:37 pm

Vesper wrote:largest member base is very impressive. 3rd rank alliance army size is still a accomplishment to be proud of

1 The Company (TIE) reaper 30,297,105,007 82,855,393 31
2 World Republic (O) Keinutnai 14,999,932,628 37,293,092 105
3 The Commonwealth (TIE) kilo 9,260,659,916 36,283,321 34

You mean rank 2 alliance.

1 The Company (TIE) reaper 30,297,105,007 82,855,393 31
2 World Republic (O) Keinutnai 14,999,413,803 37,292,812 90
3 The Commonwealth (TIE) kilo 9,260,659,916 36,283,321 34

souldog · by souldog on Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:44 pm

kenze you only got 60 % active and then i mean logged in
in the last 8 days

ian · by ian on Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:50 pm

Kenzu wrote:
Vesper wrote:largest member base is very impressive. 3rd rank alliance army size is still a accomplishment to be proud of

1 The Company (TIE) reaper 30,297,105,007 82,855,393 31
2 World Republic (O) Keinutnai 14,999,932,628 37,293,092 105
3 The Commonwealth (TIE) kilo 9,260,659,916 36,283,321 34

You mean rank 2 alliance.

1 The Company (TIE) reaper 30,297,105,007 82,855,393 31
2 World Republic (O) Keinutnai 14,999,413,803 37,292,812 90
3 The Commonwealth (TIE) kilo 9,260,659,916 36,283,321 34

Its ok... we ll retake rank 2 back in a matter of days Smile

I actually think he was referring to the fact you have 100+ members, yet only have rank 3 army size (vs. The Company's rank 1, and The Commonwealth's rank 2), and when you factor in average power per member, and average army size per member... your probably somewhere in the region of ranks 10 - 15 in terms of the calibre of your memberbase.

Kenzu · by Kenzu on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:53 am

That's probably because we don't have so many players who played other MMORPG games like you have.

ian · by ian on Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:20 am

Kenzu wrote:That's probably because we don't have so many players who played other MMORPG games like you have.

Then again, many/ virtually all your players have been playing the game for many months now (many of them having more than 4months head start over myself and other commonwealth members), and have failed to make any serious progress forwards at all. Ignorance of how to grow and play is simply not a excuse i m afraid once players are 2 weeks or older and part of an alliance - failing to grow is merely a reflection of that alliance's failure at communicating appropriate methods of growth onto the new players.

Many of the commonwealth were once upon a time very small players who invested ridiculous amounts of resources into stats, and never achieved any significant growth at all. Its mainly through a large part of the strategies myself and other HC members forced on the members, coupled with the members dedication and enthuisiasm to learn - which has resulted in many of the commonwealth being very capable and very strong players in their own right.

There are a significant portion of world republic players who started long before The Commonwealth's members, and yet are now woefully inferior to The Commonwealth's average member. Other world republic members have built their account based around military strength - nothing short of building your house out of a deck of cards.... you only need a little bit of wind and the whole lot will come crashing down leaving them with nothing.

Being a capable player, and alliance - and more importantly being a successfull alliance and player - is more than just power on the alliance rankings, or rankings on the battlefield - its about building an account and a alliance which can prosper and grow strongly under as many different conditions (good or bad) as possible - its about flexibility, and the ability to continue to develop effectively to compete against rivals and threats. Right now unless World Republic adjusts its strategy, and its memberbases start growing effectively - then honestly, the next month could well be the last month that World Republic can be deemed a major power - since after that you ll have dropped so far behind economically and militarily you couldn't really be placed in the major power's league.

I hope for the game's sake you guys decide to become a effective alliance capable of significant growth .. but i doubt it Sad

Lord Ishurue · by Lord Ishurue on Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:10 am

ian wrote:
Kenzu wrote:That's probably because we don't have so many players who played other MMORPG games like you have.

Then again, many/ virtually all your players have been playing the game for many months now (many of them having more than 4months head start over myself and other commonwealth members), and have failed to make any serious progress forwards at all. Ignorance of how to grow and play is simply not a excuse i m afraid once players are 2 weeks or older and part of an alliance - failing to grow is merely a reflection of that alliance's failure at communicating appropriate methods of growth onto the new players.

Many of the commonwealth were once upon a time very small players who invested ridiculous amounts of resources into stats, and never achieved any significant growth at all. Its mainly through a large part of the strategies myself and other HC members forced on the members, coupled with the members dedication and enthuisiasm to learn - which has resulted in many of the commonwealth being very capable and very strong players in their own right.

There are a significant portion of world republic players who started long before The Commonwealth's members, and yet are now woefully inferior to The Commonwealth's average member. Other world republic members have built their account based around military strength - nothing short of building your house out of a deck of cards.... you only need a little bit of wind and the whole lot will come crashing down leaving them with nothing.

Being a capable player, and alliance - and more importantly being a successfull alliance and player - is more than just power on the alliance rankings, or rankings on the battlefield - its about building an account and a alliance which can prosper and grow strongly under as many different conditions (good or bad) as possible - its about flexibility, and the ability to continue to develop effectively to compete against rivals and threats. Right now unless World Republic adjusts its strategy, and its memberbases start growing effectively - then honestly, the next month could well be the last month that World Republic can be deemed a major power - since after that you ll have dropped so far behind economically and militarily you couldn't really be placed in the major power's league.

I hope for the game's sake you guys decide to become a effective alliance capable of significant growth .. but i doubt it

this is quoting both kenzus and Ians .

Aderan Wars is my 1st Mmorpg . I only have been playing for 2 months , and i am already bigger than most WR members who have played months before I even Started.

Lack of growth has to do this with a Player and/or an alliance leaders ability to keep learning and trying new Strategies for Growth and communication .

If an alliance leader gives advice , and the member doesn't listen than its the members fault for not listening.

Friendship is also factor . ( I think Ian made a post about his boys from another game crossing servers to AWs )
If you played a game with someone for a long time You tend to develope friendships . Playing video games with Friends will make you want to play the game more , and develope Friendly Rivalries which will make you compete , and unlock your true potential for the game .

jocolor

seaborgium · by seaborgium on Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:17 am

Ishurue, you hit 90% of the problems on teh head man,

most of what Ian has said was due to poor leadership, however... I don't think Kenzu is a bad leader, just took on too many newbies.

However TC is 80% old friends, and also play other mmorpgs so we know what foundation to build.

To me what would be scary is the 2 of them sit and talk, and both THINK before post and then join sides

*shudders* poor game if that should happen