Alliance requirements
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Alliance requirements
There are 26 alliances displayed on the alliance rankings page. 5 of those carry a 0 total power and total war experiance. 17 are 1 man alliances. There are only 9 alliances with 3 or more members, and only 7 with 5 or more.
Should we impose some form of regulations for alliance existance or wait? or even never?
Should we impose some form of regulations for alliance existance or wait? or even never?
Nomad- Alliance Leader
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Re: Alliance requirements
I still don't agree with alliances being hidden.
So if you're going to have regulations, you'll need to make all alliances open and not hidden, otherwise what's the point?
If there are 5 with 0 power and 17 are 1 man, how many secret ones are out there that are the same? If you start making the public ones follow a certain set of rules, people will just go with secret alliances..... And it always takes at least 1 person to start an alliance then others join, so are you talking time limits (must have at least 10 members within 24 hours of forming) or power (must have at least x within 24 hours)??
Explain more please?
So if you're going to have regulations, you'll need to make all alliances open and not hidden, otherwise what's the point?
If there are 5 with 0 power and 17 are 1 man, how many secret ones are out there that are the same? If you start making the public ones follow a certain set of rules, people will just go with secret alliances..... And it always takes at least 1 person to start an alliance then others join, so are you talking time limits (must have at least 10 members within 24 hours of forming) or power (must have at least x within 24 hours)??
Explain more please?
Kismet- Aderan Worker
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Registration date : 2009-04-01
Re: Alliance requirements
I think they need a certain amount of several things to even exist.
Hidden or not should follow the same rules, or maybe the hidden ones a bit more stringent? IDK. I think some good things are,,,,
1. A minimum amount of members, 3 to 5 for example.
2. Activity by all/most members. if 4 out of 5 members dont log in for a month then it shouldn't exist, or atleast not be ranked. maybe 50 or 60% inactivity as some ill effect?
3. possibly a need for some stats? war experiance? total power? if they have 0 on both they shouldn't exist or be ranked.
IDK, just an idea for discussion.
I personaly don't have any issues with hidden alliances, they have some signifigant disadvantages.
Hidden or not should follow the same rules, or maybe the hidden ones a bit more stringent? IDK. I think some good things are,,,,
1. A minimum amount of members, 3 to 5 for example.
2. Activity by all/most members. if 4 out of 5 members dont log in for a month then it shouldn't exist, or atleast not be ranked. maybe 50 or 60% inactivity as some ill effect?
3. possibly a need for some stats? war experiance? total power? if they have 0 on both they shouldn't exist or be ranked.
IDK, just an idea for discussion.
I personaly don't have any issues with hidden alliances, they have some signifigant disadvantages.
Nomad- Alliance Leader
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Re: Alliance requirements
Maybe it would be good if hidden alliances would appear in the rankings, showing total power and member count, but it wouldn't show who their members are.
I think alliances should have a positive power. alliances with 0 power should be automatically disbanded upon reaching this stat.
I have no problems with 1 man alliances, but only if it's temporary. An alliance older than 3 months still having only one member shouldn't be ranked.
I'd like to see population size appear next to the alliance tag, if possible.
(no need to show it for hidden alliances though)
I think alliances should have a positive power. alliances with 0 power should be automatically disbanded upon reaching this stat.
I have no problems with 1 man alliances, but only if it's temporary. An alliance older than 3 months still having only one member shouldn't be ranked.
I'd like to see population size appear next to the alliance tag, if possible.
(no need to show it for hidden alliances though)
Kenzu- Alliance Leader
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Re: Alliance requirements
Kenzu wrote:Maybe it would be good if hidden alliances would appear in the rankings, showing total power and member count, but it wouldn't show who their members are.
I am on the fence on this one, I think it would really take away from the mystery of the "hidden" alliance
I think alliances should have a positive power. alliances with 0 power should be automatically disbanded upon reaching this stat.
I have to fully disagree with this based soley on it being used as a forced disbandment. As it stands right now an active alliance could infact be reduced to 0 power in military stats, and if its a pure economic alliance it is possible to have a 0 war experiance since it is erased now.
I have no problems with 1 man alliances, but only if it's temporary. An alliance older than 3 months still having only one member shouldn't be ranked.
I would fully agree with this
I'd like to see population size appear next to the alliance tag, if possible.
(no need to show it for hidden alliances though)
again, could go either way on this one, I dont think its a bad idea, but it does take alittle bit away from needing covert,,, but nothing signifigant, unless it was a one man alliance.
Nomad- Alliance Leader
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Re: Alliance requirements
maybe instead of total population and average population should be displayed
.- Aderan Miner
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Re: Alliance requirements
if you want total population of an alliance, get a good covert, copy member list into excel and do the sum
Re: Alliance requirements
Nomad wrote:There are 26 alliances displayed on the alliance rankings page. 5 of those carry a 0 total power and total war experiance. 17 are 1 man alliances. There are only 9 alliances with 3 or more members, and only 7 with 5 or more.
Should we impose some form of regulations for alliance existance or wait? or even never?
Ok, here's my idea.
When creating an alliance, you must discuss first with some persons if they want to be allied with you, right? Therefore the problem is solved if, when creating an alliance you put the rule that the alliance will exist only after it reaches 3 members. When the alliance drops under 3 members, it is deleted automaticaly.
I think that an alliance is a pact between 3 members at least with the same goal and vision.
About the other suggestions for the invisible alliance... dudes, drop it. The invisible alliances are not ranked and should stay like that.
Nigatsu_Aka- Aderan Assassin
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Re: Alliance requirements
I can agree with both.
only question would be, what about alliances with members who have quit? how long till they are removed? or will they be removed at all?
only question would be, what about alliances with members who have quit? how long till they are removed? or will they be removed at all?
Nomad- Alliance Leader
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Re: Alliance requirements
then you simply multiply with the amount of players.souldog wrote:maybe instead of total population and average population should be displayed
I think total population should appear, just like total power appears right now.
I think total power is much more important figure than total population.
That's tedious work.Admin wrote:if you want total population of an alliance, get a good covert, copy member list into excel and do the sum
If you show total power, why not showing total population too?
for population you need much less covert action than for seeing total power.
Kenzu- Alliance Leader
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Re: Alliance requirements
We are now looking at 2 pages of alliances, and actually less then 10 viable alliances. Look how many carry 0 war experiance, and 0 stats yet or listed.
Rank Name Leader Total Power Total War Experience Size
11 Hounds of War CJL 38,296,675 111,003 2
12 New Union RedPanda 31,291,192 66,240 1
13 Merc Evil 49,283,105 74,258 1
14 Symphony of Destruction Zarakai_Kenpachi 10,448,800 104,873 1
15 Removalists liquidforce 85,665,768 150,395 1
16 Omega Allegience son of plunder 5,302,077 8,733 3
17 Comitatus Unius matrygg 449,344,360 334,009 1
18 Mahora Acadamy Ku_Fei 4,525,462 4,287 2
19 Kaitou Kaitou_1412 606,939 4,010 1
20 Super Macho Men So_I_Herd_U_Liek_Mudkipzz 494,707 8,540 1
21 Legion of Darkness Darrac 397,859 3,397 2
22 w3r3b3tt3rthnu imbetterthnu 10,546,456 125,450 1
23 Federation of independent plan Jiro 6,366,068 2,827 3
24 The Invaders blueagle 1,211,240 1,412 1
25 the worst jyf_anch 714,193 1,656 1
26 hothead herb 98,618 3,783
27 united states of brawlnia linkfan11 281,973 2,910 1
28 War Wolves Sendo-Okami 31,947 203 1
29 okitoki okitoki 146,423 0
30 Devils_Road Devils_Road 57,519 160 1
31 TanKs The Punisher 694 330 1
32 HeroWar Will- 0 0 1
33 Early Rulers. Kael Shak 605 220 1
34 THE GUARDIANS lenski7 0 0 1
35 MightyWarriors CroWarrior 0 0 1
36 Ancient Kings Dyer51 385 110 1
37 The Red Army WehrmachtDE 0 60 1
38 < DeV!L**J!N 1,364 0 1
39 Biobos metbobo 0 0 1
40 Socialist Union of Adera Khalazar 0 0 1
41 The Mercinaries hellBurnsOver 1,016 0 1
42 World Domonation Yamato 0 0 1
43 Industrial Core Blue Stalbo 0 0 1
44 Midnight Assassins guitaristguy477 0 0 1
45 Destruction!!!!!!! grattz 0 0 1
46 Werewolves masamuny 0 0 1
47 elari992 elari992 0 0 1
48 PeoplesarmyofEire fanoftheSFRY 0 0 1
49 FrUiT Pineapple 0 0 1
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